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LSA
03-25-2003, 01:18 AM
I'm thinking about getting DSL, but what modem should I get?

Wolfmight
03-25-2003, 01:38 AM
SBCYahoo DSL and Earthlink DSL are the best ones right now.

i heard cable gets slow at populare times.. not sure though. My friend uses road runner and hates it

LSA
03-25-2003, 01:41 AM
No I mean the modem itself, there is only 1 option for service in my area :(

The Great Dude
03-25-2003, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Wolfmight@24 March 2003 - 17:38
i heard cable gets slow at populare times.. not sure though. My friend uses road runner and hates it
Yeah, when alot of people around you are connecting to cable at once, tends to get slow. Otherwise, it's quite fast. ;)

ooo
03-25-2003, 02:22 AM
heh u got verizon in ur area...

right now im using verizon dsl... came w/ free webcam

itz like 40 dollars a month

Supernatural
03-25-2003, 05:03 AM
Just use whatever the ISP gives you. I don't think there is any difference in which modem you use.

BTW, I've had both DSL and cable, and cable is 2-3 times faster than DSL. That has been my experience. Sure it slows down during high-traffic hours. The whole internet slows down at these time, not just cable users. Even with the slow down, it still remains much faster than DSL.

Gandalf on Crack
03-25-2003, 01:22 PM
Ack It really depends upon where you live

I'm in some small town Iowa so we have a Local ISP that I use called LISCO and their awesome
876k up and down($39,DSL), For the past 3 years the service hasnt been slow or down ONCE.
But there is also mediacom service(cable) from a larger city and I've heard people talking about downloading over Megabit easily but the past few weeks everyone in Des moines was lagging until it was resolved the other day.
All I can say I am glad to be on a nice stable connection such as this.

imported_QuietSilence!
03-25-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Supernatural@25 March 2003 - 06:03
Just use whatever the ISP gives you. I don't think there is any difference in which modem you use.

BTW, I've had both DSL and cable, and cable is 2-3 times faster than DSL. That has been my experience. Sure it slows down during high-traffic hours. The whole internet slows down at these time, not just cable users. Even with the slow down, it still remains much faster than DSL.
the main difrence is that dsl is dedacated bandwidth that meens its all urs

but cable is shared bandwidth wich meen ur shareing ur band width with the whole naborhood so when theres a lot of peps on line in ur naborhood ull get slower connections

it uasly cost more for dsl for the same bandwidth that the cable is but u dont have to share it also dsl is uasly limmited to only 128Kbps up where cable is uasly not caped its the same up as down

where i am cable is 160KBps\160KBps and dsl is 160KBps\128Kbps where 1st number is download speed and 2nd number is upload speed (note KBps is kilobytes per sec and Kbps is Kilobits per sec )
the cable is 39.99 a month and the dsl is 49.99 a month (they also hav a dsl for 29.99 that is 512Kbps\128Kbps)
i use dsl (160KBps\128Kbps) as i dont want to share my bandwidth with everyone in the naborhood

also in addition to this cable is useing the the same 160KBps both up and down so if u got an upload going it will slow ur download becouse its using the same bandwidth but in dsl they are seprit so so upload do not slow ur downloads

i have had both and for me where i am dsl is all ways faster (except late at night)then the cabble becouse there are a lot of peps with cable in my naborhood

as to the modem if the isp u get your dsl from dost provide one i would recomend a linksys adsl router i seen 1 for 49.99 that had Nat and a fire wall and pppoe suport

nat lets u hook more then 1 comp up without having to get a 2nd ip address wich they usaly charge u more for. pppoe suport is so u dont have to run a pppoe client like winpoat on ur comp to get on. firewall is also a good thing to have so u dont have to run a firewall on every comp u have connected to the inet

Benno
03-25-2003, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by QuietSilence!@25 March 2003 - 16:25
where i am cable is 160\160 and dsl is 160\128 where 1st number is download speed and 2nd number is upload speed
the cable is 39.99 a month and the dsl is 49.99 a month (they also hav a dsl for 29.99 that is 512\128)
i use dsl (160\128) as i dont want to share my bandwidth with everyone in the naborhood

how come that DSL with 160/128 is a more expensive than DSL with 512/128?? :blink:

3RA1N1AC
03-25-2003, 03:59 PM
i have seen cable modems for sale in stores, but never seen a DSL modem in a store... which leads me to believe that

1) cable modems are generic/interchangeable, so any cable modem should work with any cable internet service
2) DSL modems are specific to the company you subscribe to, so you should just buy the one that your company offers to you. in fact, it will probably be a requirement that you buy the modem from the internet company

if the DSL company gives you a choice between USB or ethernet, choose the ethernet because it will perform better and more reliably... and a USB modem can't be used with a router if you ever decide that you want to share your internet connection between multiple PCs.

if you do not have an ethernet card in your PC, you will need to buy one and install it. should cost $20 or less, and they all perform approx the same. an ethernet card and a 56k modem are both network cards, but an ethernet card is not a modem (because it does not have the ability to connect to an internet service without first going through an external modem).

hope that covers any questions the original poster may have had.

vivitron 15
03-25-2003, 09:43 PM
the best bet I found was a DSL modem/router, for about £100...netgears are good

try http://www.adslguide.org.uk/ for everything about DSL and cable etc.

the quality DOES matter, read some of the reports above

Supernatural
03-25-2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@25 March 2003 - 10:59
if the DSL company gives you a choice between USB or ethernet, choose the ethernet because it will perform better and more reliably... and a USB modem can't be used with a router if you ever decide that you want to share your internet connection between multiple PCs.hope that covers any questions the original poster may have had.
There isn't really a difference in performance or reliability of using ethernet over USB to connect a modem. Not everyone has a NIC, that's why there is the choice of USB. If you do have ethernet than of course use it, that's what it's for. You won't have to use up one of your USB slots. But you don't NEED an ethernet if you have the USB option. Then again, I don't think DSL modems can be connected to USB. :blink: I haven't seen one that can be...

south-paw
03-26-2003, 12:06 AM
The BT Voyager external modem, connects via USB Supernatural... :D

Supernatural
03-27-2003, 02:27 AM
Well, there ya go. Thanx dude. :)

3RA1N1AC
03-27-2003, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by Supernatural@25 March 2003 - 14:14
There isn't really a difference in performance or reliability of using ethernet over USB to connect a modem. Not everyone has a NIC, that's why there is the choice of USB. If you do have ethernet than of course use it, that's what it's for. You won't have to use up one of your USB slots. But you don't NEED an ethernet if you have the USB option. Then again, I don't think DSL modems can be connected to USB. :blink: I haven't seen one that can be...
ethernet = 10mbps or 100mbps dedicated purely to networking
usb = 11mbps split between all devices on the hub (by design it is a low bandwidth interface)

the sharing of that limited bandwidth between multiple devices is what makes a USB internet connection the less desirable choice

Supernatural
03-28-2003, 01:21 AM
Why does it matter? DSL hardly ever goes over 1.5 Mbps. It's not like the USB will be "limiting" the modem to 11Mbps, because it will never go that fast.

Livy
03-28-2003, 01:27 AM
does usb not use more sys resources?

Yomanda_66
03-29-2003, 12:49 PM
I have the Alcatel USB ADSL External Modem seems to be pretty good, I don;t really think the modem makes too much difference the service provider makes most difference.

imported_QuietSilence!
03-29-2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Benno+25 March 2003 - 16:36--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Benno @ 25 March 2003 - 16:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--QuietSilence&#33;@25 March 2003 - 16:25
where i am&nbsp; cable is 160&#092;160 and dsl is 160&#092;128 where 1st number is download speed and 2nd number is upload speed
the cable is 39.99 a month and the dsl is 49.99 a month (they also hav a dsl for 29.99 that is 512&#092;128)
i use dsl (160&#092;128) as&nbsp; i dont want to share my bandwidth with everyone in the naborhood

how come that DSL with 160/128 is a more expensive than DSL with 512/128?? :blink: [/b][/quote]
sry i posted that wrong it should be 1500Kbps/128Kbps
witch is aprox 160KBps/128kbps
in other words i was useing kilobits in uploads and kilobytes in dl
so i see ur confusion it was a mistake
itend to think in bytes instead of bits when it comes to download speed
ill go back and edit the post

imported_QuietSilence!
03-29-2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Livy@28 March 2003 - 02:27
does usb not use more sys resources?
no more then an ether net card and ud have these resorses in use any way if you have usb ports
also it is highly unlikey ull use up ur usb bandwidth of 11 Mbps

PcH
03-29-2003, 02:41 PM
You should check out http://www.dslreports.com for the best modems. :)

Livy
03-29-2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by QuietSilence&#33;+29 March 2003 - 14:32--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (QuietSilence&#33; @ 29 March 2003 - 14:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Livy@28 March 2003 - 02:27
does usb not use more sys resources?
no more then an ether net card and ud have these resorses in use any way if you have usb ports
also it is highly unlikey ull use up ur usb bandwidth of 11 Mbps [/b][/quote]
cool. wasnt to sure bout that one.
mine gotta be on ethernet, using router.
bit easier on ethernet. does have to have any drivers for the modem.

TRshady
03-29-2003, 04:23 PM
Yeah, modem&#39;s don&#39;t actually determine your speed or effect it because if I was too upgrade to 1mb connection I will still use the same modem, see what I mean?

I use the BT broadband voyager usb modem and it works great.

Wizzandabe
03-29-2003, 07:38 PM
http://www.adsl-business.co.uk/btvoyager.htmWell i got this it&#39;s a adsl modem but it&#39;s alson acts as a dsl, dont real know what the dif os to be honist.

Spindulik
03-30-2003, 04:53 AM
I have a Westell "wireSpeed". As a promotional offer, it was offered for free to home users (not for business), a &#036;99.00 savings for first time customers.