We Should Be Able To Start Polls.

[iMartin]

I think regular users (non-admind, non-mods) should be able to start polls. I dont see why we shouldnt be allowed to :unsure:
Who's with me?

[gumbydancin]

This has been brought up many times before and is usually pleaded for by FC, but it isn't going to happen so I would just try to realize that it's not up to you and move on.

[iMartin]

And I'd like to ask, why the hell not? :blink:

[BROCKSTER]

because little people :lol: wud make em all the time an the borad wud be chaos

[scribblec]

people will abuse it

[iMartin]

Well they should atleast remove the "Start new poll" button <_<

[BROCKSTER]

does it annoy u that much <_< i think u shud put up with it its a very very small price to pay for such a great forum :D

[sideous]

I think we should have a poll on who should be able to start polls &#33; :D

[BROCKSTER]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[RPerry]

The mods and admins have been more than generous lately, why not appreciate what they have done, and quit asking for more? some people are never satisfied.... <_<

[The Great Dude]

No, some people never make up their minds. :P Should I plea for a poll? Nah, it wouldn&#39;t do anything good. :lol:

[MagicNakor]

I&#39;ll plea for a Bookworld poll. :D

:ninja:

Edit to add: That&#39;s really the only thing I could make a decent poll about. ;)

[merlin-1]

I don&#39;t see why we can&#39;t be able to start polls just let the mods control the content.The other boards i&#39;m on everyone is able to start polls and nobody gets carried away.Let the mods decide if it&#39;s a usless poll or not they can always remove it.

[johnboy]

Maybe this forum is just not right for me...I see that we can&#39;t make polls and dont have the option of stars...

[Bender]

Originally posted by [-Crono-]@25 March 2003 - 23:14
Well they should atleast remove the "Start new poll" button&nbsp; <_<
If the poll button is removed it&#39;s no longer possible to make polls, so that&#39;s impossible.


If you have a request for a poll, feel free to post it in THIS THREAD. (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=20025&hl=poll) :)

[Nightwolf]

I don&#39;t see what it would hurt to create a special forum in the Off-topic section where anyone can start a poll. Of course they shouldn&#39;t count toward post totals.

[SideSwiped]

Isn&#39;t this something of a poll? It may not have a special indicator saying that this thread is a poll, but for all intents and purposes, that is exactly what this is. So, what are you whining about? You have what you want right here.

[kAb]

btw, where is FC?

[Nobody1234]

btw, where is FC?
There is a thread about that in the lounge. :D
I&#39;m glad you like your new sig.

[lunatacs]

bad idea, not only it will spam this forum with pointless polls about whos penis size is bigger but the idea of the subject will dull. Before you act on and say something back to me, think. We have many members here, alot, you, me and some other might have some common-sense of what should be posted, or at least useful to know, though others, many others...you get the point. Mods, admins, I believe this right it left on to you and it should say this way. Don&#39;t let users, or none-mods, admin, to make polls. It will only spam the forum with useless information.

If you really want to allow none-mods,admins make polls, then pick a hand few people who deserve it, not everybody. this is my opinion, dont trash it or flame at me. <_<

[al_birkett]

kAb and Nobody1234
where did you get your cool sigs?? :shifty:

[Barbarossa]

I think polls should be allowed to be started by anyone, but only in the Lounge. I can&#39;t see any harm in that. :o

[Skweeky]

ok, now, let&#39;s be a bit realistic. This board has about 11,000 members, imagine what would happens if everyone of them wants to start only 1 poll....

ok, it is said, that perfect chaos is perfect order, but I don&#39;t think this is the place to try that out :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Barbarossa]

Originally posted by Skweeky@26 March 2003 - 10:48
ok, now, let&#39;s be a bit realistic. This board has about 11,000 members, imagine what would happens if everyone of them wants to start only 1 poll....

Hardly any of them want to post at all, why would they want to start a poll? :lol:

[BROCKSTER]

Originally posted by al_birkett@26 March 2003 - 10:48
kAb and Nobody1234
where did you get your cool sigs?? :shifty:
u make them for ur self like i did :D

[iMartin]

Not every one will want to start a poll

[N£MO]

IMHO...we shouldnt be allowed to start polls,it would be total chaos&#33;&#33;Some cant answer people in a respectful manor yet so i&#39;d hate to imagine what polls would come up. :spam: :spam: and plenty of it.. ;)

[iMartin]

The way I see it, starting a new poll is like starting a new thread(post). there isnt much chaos the way it is, and there wouldnt be any is we couls start polls.

[N£MO]

[-Crono-] Posted on 26 March 2003 - 16:23
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The way I see it, starting a new poll is like starting a new thread(post). there isnt much chaos the way it is, and there wouldnt be any is we couls start polls.

I disagree with you there,try asking the mods if there is chaos on here sometimes and how many posts have to be moved or deleted so why add to it by allowing anyone to start polls.11,000 members here so really dont think it would work and would make mods unpopular for having to delete &#39;crap&#39; polls all the time.

[Shinigami_[R.I.P.]]

This is already a great board. Maybe in the future we can start polls but for now, no, we can&#39;t. This board has been great and is great. So either stick with it or don&#39;t. :ph34r:

[iMartin]

Well, it never hurts to ask.

[Nightwolf]

Originally posted by [-Crono-]@26 March 2003 - 11:08
Well, it never hurts to ask.
I agree with you Crono. I guess some people are just affraid of change. Would some users abuse it? Of course they would. That&#39;s why it should be limited to the Lounge where spam is sometimes permitted and posts don&#39;t count towards a user&#39;s total. Many other boards allow user-created polls without the &#39;chaos&#39; so many seem to fear. If someone starts a stupid, pointless poll, most users will ignore it and it&#39;ll get pushed down the list. It wouldn&#39;t hurt to try it out for a while and see what happens.

I think the Mods are worried that we&#39;ll start voting to make changes to the board, and it&#39;ll make them look bad if they don&#39;t act on the results. That&#39;s a valid concern, but they could simply pin a post to the top of the Lounge stating that user-created polls are for fun only, and they won&#39;t be used to alter board policies.

[jetje]

Originally posted by Nightwolf^.`.^+26 March 2003 - 22:57--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nightwolf^.`.^ @ 26 March 2003 - 22:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--[-Crono-]@26 March 2003 - 11:08
Well, it never hurts to ask.
I agree with you Crono. I guess some people are just affraid of change. Would some users abuse it? Of course they would. That&#39;s why it should be limited to the Lounge where spam is sometimes permitted and posts don&#39;t count towards a user&#39;s total. Many other boards allow user-created polls without the &#39;chaos&#39; so many seem to fear. If someone starts a stupid, pointless poll, most users will ignore it and it&#39;ll get pushed down the list. It wouldn&#39;t hurt to try it out for a while and see what happens.

I think the Mods are worried that we&#39;ll start voting to make changes to the board, and it&#39;ll make them look bad if they don&#39;t act on the results. That&#39;s a valid concern, but they could simply pin a post to the top of the Lounge stating that user-created polls are for fun only, and they won&#39;t be used to alter board policies. [/b][/quote]
Think it&#39;s a bit short sighted to blame it on fear for change and worried mods.... ;)

imo we would have doubles/triples polls.. see people post. Imagine some new one stumbles in sees he can start a poll went to the lounge starting

where you all from...
next one comes what&#39;s your age....
next one how much do you dl
next one where you all from...
next one comes what&#39;s your age....

that will happen... we have to many new users every day.. people don&#39;t tend to look further then the page shown to them 2nd pages sometimes but that&#39;s it... The lounge, just checked back one month (26 days) 18 pages, times 20 topics.... one month... new people don&#39;t read that much back in time. A lot don&#39;t know how to search to...
Ask people that are around longer, they all seen those kinda post several times..... Think this "free" poll idea will kill the lounge and kill the poll. It is better, if you have a good idea, to ask one of the mods/admins. We&#39;re willing to make a good and intresting poll if needed. If you feed to much we will have plenty of polls with only a few replies, what&#39;s the use of those?? B)

edit where i said 18 pages really are 22 pages...&#33;&#33;

[Nightwolf]

Not to change the subject, but you brought up a good point Jetje:


... new people don&#39;t read that much back in time. A lot don&#39;t know how to search to...

This is another question/suggestion I&#39;ve had for some time now. Is there any way to make the &#39;Search&#39; function more obvious to Newcomers? Maybe a big, bold button at the top, instead of just that one tiny little word. Or maybe even a search text field right on top of the main page.

[johnboy]

Originally posted by jetje+26 March 2003 - 21:16--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jetje @ 26 March 2003 - 21:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Nightwolf^.`.^@26 March 2003 - 22:57
<!--QuoteBegin--[-Crono-]@26 March 2003 - 11:08
Well, it never hurts to ask.
I agree with you Crono. I guess some people are just affraid of change. Would some users abuse it? Of course they would. That&#39;s why it should be limited to the Lounge where spam is sometimes permitted and posts don&#39;t count towards a user&#39;s total. Many other boards allow user-created polls without the &#39;chaos&#39; so many seem to fear. If someone starts a stupid, pointless poll, most users will ignore it and it&#39;ll get pushed down the list. It wouldn&#39;t hurt to try it out for a while and see what happens.

I think the Mods are worried that we&#39;ll start voting to make changes to the board, and it&#39;ll make them look bad if they don&#39;t act on the results. That&#39;s a valid concern, but they could simply pin a post to the top of the Lounge stating that user-created polls are for fun only, and they won&#39;t be used to alter board policies.
Think it&#39;s a bit short sighted to blame it on fear for change and worried mods.... ;)

imo we would have doubles/triples polls.. see people post. Imagine some new one stumbles in sees he can start a poll went to the lounge starting

where you all from...
next one comes what&#39;s your age....
next one how much do you dl
next one where you all from...
next one comes what&#39;s your age....

that will happen... we have to many new users every day.. people don&#39;t tend to look further then the page shown to them 2nd pages sometimes but that&#39;s it... The lounge, just checked back one month (26 days) 18 pages, times 20 topics.... one month... new people don&#39;t read that much back in time. A lot don&#39;t know how to search to...
Ask people that are around longer, they all seen those kinda post several times..... Think this "free" poll idea will kill the lounge and kill the poll. It is better, if you have a good idea, to ask one of the mods/admins. We&#39;re willing to make a good and intresting poll if needed. If you feed to much we will have plenty of polls with only a few replies, what&#39;s the use of those?? B)

edit where i said 18 pages really are 22 pages...&#33;&#33; [/b][/quote]
Klite was not having the problem of excessive polls. There was a normal, controlled amount of polls so I don&#39;t know where the sudden preoccupation about spams with polls came from <_<

[jetje]

What do you mean.....??? No it wasn&#39;t because it&#39;s controlled by admins and mods....&#33;
If you mean in the past, yes sure there were around 1000 members when you signed up...
Have you seen the stats now.

So again what do you mean, did you read this whole thread? Or were you just replying? <_<

[johnboy]

Originally posted by jetje@27 March 2003 - 00:20
What do you mean.....??? No it wasn&#39;t because it&#39;s controlled by admins and mods....&#33;
If you mean in the past, yes sure there were around 1000 members when you signed up...
Have you seen the stats now.

So again what do you mean, did you read this whole thread? Or were you just replying? <_<
what don&#39;t you understand? Yes I did read the whole thing you posted. I have a feeling you don&#39;t like me Jetje, I don&#39;t know why. Is it because I disagree with what Klite is doing and I feel free to express it?
I meant: Why do we need to prohibit polls if they weren&#39;t even used that much? Why the sudden worry if they weren&#39;t being spammed with that much?

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by johnboy+27 March 2003 - 01:31--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (johnboy @ 27 March 2003 - 01:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--jetje@27 March 2003 - 00:20
What do you mean.....??? No it wasn&#39;t because it&#39;s controlled by admins and mods....&#33;
If you mean in the past, yes sure there were around 1000 members when you signed up...
Have you seen the stats now.

So again what do you mean, did you read this whole thread? Or were you just replying?&nbsp; <_<
what don&#39;t you understand? Yes I did read the whole thing you posted. I have a feeling you don&#39;t like me Jetje, I don&#39;t know why. Is it because I disagree with what Klite is doing and I feel free to express it?
I meant: Why do we need to prohibit polls if they weren&#39;t even used that much? Why the sudden worry if they weren&#39;t being spammed with that much? [/b][/quote]
I don&#39;t know about jetje, but I can say that I don&#39;t like you. You are a rabble rouser and a stirrer. You are the sort of arse that this forum can do without.

I have yet to see a post by you that wasn&#39;t intended to either start or continue discord amongst the members. I have every reason to believe that this is deliberate.

Are you familiar with the phrase fit in or fuck off. I have never been particularly fond of it, but in your case I am happy to make an exception.

It is seldom in life that one meets someone who is so obviously a prick. I am proud to say that I have met you and that you fit all of the criteria.

[johnboy]

Wow, that was a bit harsh. But its ok, you have your opinion on me and I don&#39;t mind. Im not always trying to contradict but its just that the past few things that have been happening in this forum haven&#39;t made much sense to me. Can you complain that it doesn&#39;t make sense to me?
I see it as this: you think im an "arse" because I disagree and express as I wish...if I agreed, or if I didn&#39;t post freely, perhaps you wouldn&#39;t think so.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by johnboy@27 March 2003 - 02:19
Wow, that was a bit harsh. But its ok, you have your opinion on me and I don&#39;t mind. Im not always trying to contradict but its just that the past few things that have been happening in this forum haven&#39;t made much sense to me. Can you complain that it doesn&#39;t make sense to me?
I see it as this: you think im an "arse" because I disagree and express as I wish...if I agreed, or if I didn&#39;t post freely, perhaps you wouldn&#39;t think so.
No I am fed up with this.

Fuck off. Go back to ES5. That&#39;s your site, it&#39;s how you hope to make a living, if you are not doing so already. If you want to advertise it then why don&#39;t you just say so. You are a pornmonger who is also trying to sell pay per view events, using sharing as your cover.

If anyone here sees the evidence and can&#39;t understand it then please feel free to give him your money. Your choice. I&#39;m fed up with the whole thing.

[jetje]

Originally posted by johnboy@27 March 2003 - 02:31
what don&#39;t you understand? Yes I did read the whole thing you posted. I have a feeling you don&#39;t like me Jetje, I don&#39;t know why. Is it because I disagree with what Klite is doing and I feel free to express it?
I meant: Why do we need to prohibit polls if they weren&#39;t even used that much? Why the sudden worry if they weren&#39;t being spammed with that much?
Has nothing to do with like or not like....

You talk paardepoep to me...

i was just answering on your reply, i try to explain my reply...


Klite was not having the problem of excessive polls. There was a normal, controlled amount of polls so I don&#39;t know where the sudden preoccupation about spams with polls came from

1) in the beginning people were free to start polls. did you mean that time.
2) Later the polls were only started by admin and mods

@1) in the beginning there were less than 1000 members, it was a bit controlable, now there are over 12.000 with a lot of un experienced people to websites/forums etc.
@2) yes ofcourse there weren&#39;t to many polls... The admin/Mods kinda know what we do. We&#39;re trained for the job.

so you just talked sh*t, or did you ment something else, that was all i was asking.... Why you think me don&#39;t lke you just because i asked you to explain your question?

And why i worry about being spammed with polls, who do you think can clean up the mess....?
Besides that i still am concerned about the values of a poll if there are to many. But for that answer you had to read up the topic... <_<

[johnboy]

Originally posted by JmiF+27 March 2003 - 01:32--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JmiF @ 27 March 2003 - 01:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--johnboy@27 March 2003 - 02:19
Wow, that was a bit harsh. But its ok, you have your opinion on me and I don&#39;t mind. Im not always trying to contradict but its just that the past few things that have been happening in this forum haven&#39;t made much sense to me.&nbsp; Can you complain that it doesn&#39;t make sense to me?
I see it as this: you think im an "arse" because I disagree and express as I wish...if I agreed, or if I didn&#39;t post freely, perhaps you wouldn&#39;t think so.
No I am fed up with this.

Fuck off. Go back to ES5. That&#39;s your site, it&#39;s how you hope to make a living, if you are not doing so already. If you want to advertise it then why don&#39;t you just say so. You are a pornmonger who is also trying to sell pay per view events, using sharing as your cover.

If anyone here sees the evidence and can&#39;t understand it then please feel free to give him your money. Your choice. I&#39;m fed up with the whole thing. [/b][/quote]
Man slow down. I&#39;m not insulting you in any way so please take it easy.
I was trying to get word out of ES5. I don&#39;t work for them but you probably won&#39;t believe a word I a say. How else could I have come here told people about es5 without people getting pissed? Or is that impossible.
My goal was not to make people get pissed or start to dislike me but it has turned this way unfortunately. I wanted to make people aware of this program, and perhaps they would thank me because it would help them in P2P. But I guess i wasn&#39;t welcomed with my thought

[gumbydancin]

Originally posted by [-Crono-]@25 March 2003 - 17:14
Well they should atleast remove the "Start new poll" button <_<
The temptation of that used to get to me too, give it time. I had to look to make sure it was still there when you said that, I don&#39;t even notice it anymore. ;)

[Bender]

johnboy, please, in every post you make you are complaining.
If you&#39;re not happy with this board then leave, we don&#39;t force you to stay. :huh:

@ Jimif: that was harsh, and rude.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Bender@28 March 2003 - 01:24
johnboy, please, in every post you make you are complaining.
If you&#39;re not happy with this board then leave, we don&#39;t force you to stay. :huh:

@ Jimif: that was harsh, and rude.
Thanks Bender. I wasn&#39;t sure if it was clear enough.

[johnboy]

Originally posted by Bender@28 March 2003 - 00:24
johnboy, please, in every post you make you are complaining.
If you&#39;re not happy with this board then leave, we don&#39;t force you to stay. :huh:

@ Jimif: that was harsh, and rude.
lol, i was only complaining in my last few posts...the 350 before that, were they complaints? I didn&#39;t think so.
I stopped complaining a while ago.
and yes, what Jmif said was harsh. I hadn&#39;t insulted him

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by johnboy+28 March 2003 - 01:30--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (johnboy @ 28 March 2003 - 01:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Bender@28 March 2003 - 00:24
johnboy, please, in every post you make you are complaining.
If you&#39;re not happy with this board then leave, we don&#39;t force you to stay. :huh:

@ Jimif: that was harsh, and rude.
lol, i was only complaining in my last few posts...the 350 before that, were they complaints? I didn&#39;t think so.
I stopped complaining a while ago.
and yes, what Jmif said was harsh. I hadn&#39;t insulted him [/b][/quote]
I find your behaviour insulting to my intelligence.

[johnboy]

thats not my problem. I have not directly said anything intentionally offensive to you in particular. Why must you come with full force against me?

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by johnboy@28 March 2003 - 01:37
thats not my problem. I have not directly said anything intentionally offensive to you in particular. Why must you come with full force against me?
Do you really think that&#39;s full force.

You must live a sheltered life John.

[Bender]

Wasn&#39;t this a topic about polls?

Please you two, open a topic in the Lounge were you can fight it out, or do it in PM&#39;s. :huh:

[mrcall1969]

Jeez guys chill, it&#39;s only a forum, is this all you have to get angry and insult people about? :angry:

[johnboy]

I have to say chill to Jmif... I didnt come here insulting anyone. I just came and posted my opinions until someone calls me a arse, and tells me to fuck off.
Wasn&#39;t this a topic about polls? So why does Jmif come and insult me when I write my opinion?

[Infested Cats]

If I were a Mod:

---CLOSED---

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by johnboy@28 March 2003 - 01:46
I have to say chill to Jmif... I didnt come here insulting anyone. I just came and posted my opinions until someone calls me a arse, and tells me to fuck off.
Wasn&#39;t this a topic about polls? So why does Jmif come and insult me when I write my opinion?
It&#39;s simple - because you are an arse. I thought I had made that clear. If you weren&#39;t an arse I wouldn&#39;t need to say it.

Which is the difficult part. I do however like the injured party act, I think some people are actually believing it. Credit at least for putting up a good act. Look at poor wee me, what did I do wrong.

[Bender]

Originally posted by Infested Cats@28 March 2003 - 01:47
If I were a Mod:

---CLOSED---
I hate closing topics, it feels like censoring. :(
Let&#39;s hope they stop, I still can delete useless posts. :huh:

[johnboy]

answer that for me and for all of us. Don&#39;t tell me I told you to fuck off or anything cus what i did was post my opinion.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Bender+28 March 2003 - 01:50--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bender @ 28 March 2003 - 01:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Infested Cats@28 March 2003 - 01:47
If I were a Mod:

---CLOSED---
I hate closing topics, it feels like censoring. :(
Let&#39;s hope they stop, I still can delete useless posts. :huh: [/b][/quote]
Well you should be able to. That&#39;s unfair - responsibility without authority.

[Knuckles187]

Jim you rule&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Infested Cats]

Originally posted by johnboy@25 March 2003 - 21:18
Maybe this forum is just not right for me...I see that we can&#39;t make polls and dont have the option of stars...
Opinion?....

Complaining?.....

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by johnboy@28 March 2003 - 01:51
answer that for me and for all of us. Don&#39;t tell me I told you to fuck off or anything cus what i did was post my opinion.
So did I. Is my opinion less valid than yours.

[mrcall1969]

I&#39;m sorry JmiF but I think you&#39;re bang out of order insulting people like that, OK, so you may not agree with his opinions but I don&#39;t think there&#39;s any need for the insults.

Sorry mate.

[lunatacs]

Should this topic be moved? :unsure:

bwt you guys should make a poll about this issues :D :rolleyes:

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by mrcall1969@28 March 2003 - 01:54
I&#39;m sorry JmiF but I think you&#39;re bang out of order insulting people like that, OK, so you may not agree with his opinions but I don&#39;tthink there&#39;s any need for the insults.

Sorry mate.
Insulting people like what. What sort of person do you think he is.

[johnboy]

difference is that my opinion was relevant and wasn&#39;t offensive towards you, and yours was a clear flame towards me.

[Bender]

<sighs> In the Lounge or via PM&#39;s please.