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Izagaia
10-12-2004, 08:38 PM
...DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW ?


I can pretty much surmise that the "R" and "RW" stand for "writable once" and "re-writable" respectively.

However the whole "-" or "+" deal throws me off somewhat.




I have a DVD+R/RW drive currently installed into my system. Does this necessarily mean that I should make certain to purchase and use only blank DVD's of the "+" type for burning data in this drive?

keyser_soze
10-12-2004, 08:58 PM
Hello I'm not 100% but if your dvd burner only says dvd+ then you should probably only use that kind of disc, I find it a bit odd because normally most burners are dvd- and having a+ burner aswell is a bonus, mine is was only a £60 burner and it burns both, I dunno what the advantages are of using +media but it supposed to be slightly better you might find more info here http://www.dvdplusrw.org/ the draw back is that dvd+ is not compatable with every player so if you ever need to burn something for some1 its best to do it on a dvd-r, I use dvd+r beecause I can burn them and my player plays them but these discs don't work on my brothers and brother in laws players, another example I found at my cost was that playstation 2's don't play dvd+ discs

Smurfette
10-12-2004, 09:06 PM
From the very little I've read recently, +R/RW is a little more reliable as you can set the 'book type' to DVD-ROM (rather than DVD+R/RW) which may fool some standalone players into believing it's actually a factory disc, whereas you can't do this with DVD-R/RW.

Izagaia
10-12-2004, 09:43 PM
Thank-you. Both of you. :)


I checked that site and found it very helpful. And it pretty much is like Smurfette says.

A more reliable DVD medium in terms of write speeds and player compatibility than the "-" types. Overall, it is what is considered ideal for mass data storage. Great!



When I purchased my new system, I thought that DVD drives were much the same as CD-ROM drives. Coming mainly in two flavors, "R" and "RW". However I was thrown aback when I was browsing for blank DVD disks and seeing that there were all these differing types. My DVD type is the "+" so that is what I purchased. Yet I can see that I can utilize both. But knowing that some players (and possibly some PC's) will reject the "-" type, why would I ever want to bother with anything other than "+" ?


Thank-you, again. :D

natedogg
10-12-2004, 09:48 PM
i think its the same is cdr and rw, man yall getting me dizzy *walks over to bed to lay down*

keyser_soze
10-12-2004, 09:50 PM
@Izagaia sorry if you picked that up wrong but I was trying to say that the dvd-r discs are more compatible with the majority of players, if I was to burn something for some1 whos player I knew nothing about I would do it as dvd-r to be on the safe side.

and np for the help.

Storm
10-13-2004, 01:04 AM
its like gas and diesel.......

you cant put gas in your diesel engine and visa versa....... it just wont work


DVD- will work on most stand alone dvd players.......

DVD+ has the advantage of being more expensive, but more reliable....

it doesnt matter to much which you get, but best is a +/- burner.......

its really time for the industry to go with one standard.......

DDRFREAK1030
10-13-2004, 05:28 PM
so +r won work in ps2?

im getting confused

one said +r more reliable another said -r

for old comps is -r more reliable? or is it +R?

sometimes my discs(+r) work in my friends

is -r more compatible with the older dvd-rom drives

lynx
10-13-2004, 08:12 PM
Most players will read both +R and -R disks. If you have a player that won't read one type, I suggest the fault lies with the player not the type of disk; it is probably so old it needs replacing anyway.

However, +R disks have a couple of small technical advantages, one being the ability to "bit set" the book type. If the software on the disk checks the media type this can be a way of fooling it, but the software writers are well aware of this and will probably use other methods to prevent copying anyway.

The disadvantage of +R discs is that they are generally more expensive, although the price difference has shrunk dramatically in recent months.

spirex
10-13-2004, 10:24 PM
I have no trouble getting dvd+r to work on my playstation 2. There are a bunch of different versions of the playstion 2 out. I have the V9 and its unmodded. Plus it even said on the box that it can read dvd+r/rw.

Izagaia
10-14-2004, 09:23 PM
I have no trouble getting dvd+r to work on my playstation 2. There are a bunch of different versions of the playstion 2 out. I have the V9 and its unmodded. Plus it even said on the box that it can read dvd+r/rw.

Well, off subject... I recently tried creating a copy of a PSX2 title using a +R/+RW disk. My Playstation2 (model SCPH-30001), would not recognize the disk as a PSX or PSX2 title.

keyser_soze
10-16-2004, 10:30 PM
For ref I have never had any ps2 game work on anything other than -r discs on different ps2's but thats only my own personal experiance.

bigboab
10-17-2004, 07:12 PM
Recordable DVD drives



Unfortunately unlike recordable CD drives there are many different competing standards for creating DVD discs. For example DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL (DVD+R9), and DVD-RAM are all different competing standards. Below is a brief explanation of each of these standards and related links to each of these standards.

DVD-R


Short for Digital Versatile Disc-Recordable, DVD-R is similar to the idea behind CD-R, where the drive is capable or recording once to a disc and then read many times after it has been created. DVD-R is an approved standard by DVD Forum (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdforum.htm) and the drives are capable of recording to DVD-R discs (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) also known as DVD-5 (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) and DVD-10 (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) discs.
Note: DVD-R discs are compatible with most stand alone DVD players and computer DVD-ROM drives.



DVD-RW (DVD-R/W)


Short for Digital Versatile Disc-Read/Write, DVD-RW is an approved standard by DVD Forum (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdforum.htm) and much like CD-RW is a technology that enables a user to read and write to a DVD-RW or DVD-R disc several times. DVD-RW drives are capable of recording to a DVD-R and DVD-RW discs (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) also known as DVD-5 (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) and DVD-10 (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) discs.
Note: DVD-RW discs are compatible with most stand-alone DVD players and computer DVD-ROM drives.



DVD+R


Short for Digital Versatile Disc-Recordable, DVD+R is an approved standard by the DVD+RW Alliance (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrwall.htm) and much like CD-R and DVD-R is a technology that enables a user to read and write to a DVD+RW or DVD+R disc several times. DVD+RW drives are capable of recording a DVD+R discs (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) also known as DVD-5 (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) and DVD-10 (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) discs.
Note: DVD+R discs are compatible with most stand-alone DVD players and computer DVD-ROM drives.



DVD+RW


Short for Digital Versatile Disc-Read/Write, DVD+R is an approved standard by the DVD+RW Alliance (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrwall.htm) and much like CD-RW and DVD-RW is a technology that enables a user to read and write to a DVD+RW or DVD+R disc several times. DVD+RW drives are capable of recording a DVD+R and DVD+RW discs (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) also known as DVD-5 (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) and DVD-10 (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) discs.
Note: DVD+RW discs are compatible with most stand-alone DVD players and computer DVD-ROM drives.



DVD+R DL (DVD+R9)


Short for Digital Versatile Disc-Recordable Dual Layer, DVD+R DL is an approved standard by the DVD+RW Alliance (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrwall.htm) and almost doubles the capacity a DVD when compared with the DVD+R or DVD+RW discs also known as DVD-9 (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) and DVD-18 (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrdisc.htm) discs.
Note: DVD+R DL discs are compatible with most stand-alone DVD players and computer DVD-ROM drives.



DVD-RAM


Short for Digital Versatile Disc-Random Access Memory, DVD-RAM drives are an approved standard by the DVD+RW Alliance (http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/dvdrwall.htm) and are similar to CD-RW in that they enable users to read and write to a disc several times.
Note: Unlike competing standards of DVD recordable discs DVD-RAM discs cannot be read in the majority of stand-alone DVD players and computer DVD-ROM drives.

Dont know if this is any help.:)

spirex
10-25-2004, 06:30 AM
Well, off subject... I recently tried creating a copy of a PSX2 title using a +R/+RW disk. My Playstation2 (model SCPH-30001), would not recognize the disk as a PSX or PSX2 title.
Did you have a modchip ?