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omnix32
03-27-2003, 12:56 AM
OK, I am frustrated with the garbage on Kazaa concerning .bin files. So, Unreal2, and splinter cell worked fine but not the rest. I find the longer the files has been out there the less chance your going to get a good download.

MY Therory is that in time the files get corrupted and stupid people leave them on for download. Kazaa does not seem to sort through the bad and the good as the file size stays the same. So, the image file gets whacked and it won't work.

I downloaded simcity 4 and had 400 errors on the image file (CDIMAGE) There were alot of sources for it so I assume it worked at one point but not now. It would not even burn to cd without stoping (NERO ...13 52x memorex drive)

MY advice is to get Overnet or e-mule which has been suggested before and don't even attempt to download image files from Kazaa. Rips seem to always do fine without errors so I assume its something funny with image files but don't know why there is a difference......

My hope is that Kazaa lite makes a error correction routine in its program to become the best out there, because downloading from e-mule or Overnet could take weeks for one file.

Just some warning to those who don't want to waste time.



P.s if your really patience then get Dirrect connect as the files are always good there and your almost always able to start the download though very slow. you will need at least 35 gig to share to get on most hubs which should not be a problem as I know most you have pleanty of sources to share.......

fun.................

"The Avatar Man"
03-27-2003, 02:07 AM
some one needs to pin this I am also tired of having to tell people that their downloads are corrupted :angry:

TJX
03-27-2003, 03:11 AM
yes I'm getting tired of it too, so i started using emule last night...so far it's working great..pretty good speed to

MagicNakor
03-27-2003, 03:18 AM
Image downloads off Kazaa are usually corrupt due to the sheer size of them. Most range from 500-700 megs. There are a few things you can do to try to prevent some corruption, such as not using line-modems is one, although cable isn't available in all areas or even affordable. My ADSL-using friend hasn't actually ever finished downloading an image file, so I can't tell the results of using an ADSL-line-modem. Not disconnecting/reconnecting helps, too. Unfortunately, because Kazaa has little-to-no error correction, your file may end up corrupt. This doesn't always mean the guy who's sharing it has a corrupt file, though. It became corrupt through the transfer.

When I'm looking for images, I usually use eMule. Good error correction, and your speeds get decent after a little bit.

:ninja:

omnix32
03-27-2003, 01:18 PM
I have DSL and can get a top speed of 159 kb/s (not on Kazaa of course but possible.) I did download iron storm 3 times and all three times I have the same problem, programs.cab not installing.........
I don't think its the DSL that is causing this as I can download large .rar or .zip with no problems. I also downloaded splinter cell and Iron Storm from Kazaa with no problems. I don't know. If I could get over 12 kb/s on e-mule then I would use that instead.
thanx for the input guys.....................

ahctlucabbuS
03-27-2003, 05:34 PM
Bump for error correction version of kazaa lite! :)

DarkEternityNow
03-27-2003, 07:00 PM
from what i have seen, the lovely new option "Jump Supernode" causes insane amounts of errors in image files....of course, this is not 100% tested, but I downloaded two copies of the same game, one time jumping supernodes one time not and the one I jumped with had 5000+ errors, the other one had 0. Of course, this is truly a hard theory to test, but I could be right...

omnix32
03-27-2003, 10:58 PM
Your correct. Jumping supernods does corrupt image files and could possibly corrupt other files as well. I have tested this and its confirmed by Kazaa-search which has a saftey button to not allow you to jump supernods while downloading.

The problem and I am almost sure it does happen is that Kazaa jumps on its own at times. Using Kazaa-search and seeing what supernod I was on with ip if found that it jumped. This seems to occur when doing the unlimited search thingy but has been found to change supernods on its own during the all night marathon downloading...... This can cause serious errors in image files and possibly I believe the reason some AVI files I get stop at parts in the movie and have to be restarted where it stoped. AVI's no big deal. Program DATA and its over...........


TWO game solutions to what seemed like corrupted files.
Iron Storm:
C&C Generals:

I got both games off of direct connect and burned with Nero. The games could not find certain cab files even though on cd and not corrupted. Note you may have to use CDImage to fix images before burning. CD1 of Iron Storm had 2000 errors reported by cdimage. (fixed it)


Next I copied the the whole cds to my hard drive and installed (both games) they now worked at this point. The problem my be a windows xp issue if you have a bogus copy as the installer won't read the install package off the cd's This was noted by the command and conquer help site.
I also had the same issue with Iron Storm as the game does not like XP pro. the updates will not even reconize my OS and error out.
to fix you unpack the update and edit the .ini for the operating system check.
I have seen this problem posted a few times and this seems to fix it.
same with freelancer. the sound won't work right with codecs installed. the readme on the cd will tell you how to fix it.
fun.........

Twist3r
03-28-2003, 12:54 AM
yes use emule for images kazaa for everything else

FiEtSpOmP
03-28-2003, 10:46 AM
Yah i know the problem with corrupt images :angry:
I downloaded Battlefield 1942, 5 times, and everytime i tried to install it another file was corrupted, I really hate that..
So when I have to download an image I use IRC!
Great speed and you can find anything there, IRC spy -> my favourite (http://h**p://www.ircspy.com)
I've put 2 * in the url, just to make sure :rolleyes:

JohnRambo
03-31-2003, 11:45 PM
I still use Kazaa,but I need to download two or three copy's and use CDMAGE to repair the corrupted sectors. Then I import the good sectors also using CDMAGE from the other files to replace the bad sectors in the file with the least errors to make one good file. :)

omnix32
04-01-2003, 12:11 AM
Would it not be faster to use direct connect and get the good file once???
or even try e-mule, overnet just in case it will download at a good speed.??

to each his own I suppose..

The Great Dude
04-01-2003, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by Master YodaX@26 March 2003 - 18:07
some one needs to pin this I am also tired of having to tell people that their downloads are corrupted :angry:
Welcome to my world. ;) Now you see how boring it gets to post so many times of the same thing? :lol: You could let other people answer the question though.

Bobc
04-02-2003, 08:08 PM
It's true !!!!!!
I've been using Kazza for ages and have been v. impressed in the past. However I've recentley tried to get C&C generals (both the .exe and the 2CD .bin versions). I'm on cable broadband so tried the .exe at least 5 times and both the .bin files twice.
Every one was corrupted and wouldn't work.

So on Monday I downloaded eMule v0.27c and went for 'em all again and guess what?

Yup .... everything worked first time ... no errors, no corruption, no hastle.
Took a bit longer than I'm used to but it's a small price to pay for a guaranteed working file.

How does eMule do this ?

MagicNakor
04-02-2003, 11:58 PM
It has error correction. Basically, if it downloads part of a file that's corrupt, it trashes it and downloads it again from another source until it gets a non-corrupt part.

:ninja:

JohnRambo
04-03-2003, 12:02 AM
I cannot get my emule off of low ID so it downloads so slow. I don't mind fixing the corrupted Kazaa files, but this also takes time.
Perhaps I should give Overnet a try,is it any good though?

omnix32
04-03-2003, 01:38 AM
Ok, Overnet is better than e-mule. No question about that. The problem is that it sometimes never downloads the file and at times I can get at least 69 kb/s.....well very few times.

Go with direct connect. No problems with that.



Kazaa I fear is probley a large fault in the corruption in game files. Its takes only a tiny error to ruin everything.
Jumping supernods in the middle of downloads will almost always cause a large bin file to get errors. There not always unfixable if you use cd mage.
NOw for some reason Kazaa jumps supernods at times on its own. you can check this with the kazaa search tool
http://kazaasearch.narod.ru/


I assume that the supernod goes off line and then Kazza finds another. I find this happen alot if I have overnight downloads. Its probley the reason movies have pauses in them and continue to get worse the longer the file is out there. This is could spell the end of a download and I have lost .dat files at times because of this. (though not very often)

Kazaa search has a saftey feature that won't allow you to jump nods without the downloads being paused.

Of coures a computer crash can wipe all the downloads in progress as its happend to me (kids bummped the power cord.) in which case overnet or direct connect would be better options for downloads of large program files.

fun.

JohnRambo
04-03-2003, 04:12 AM
I will give it a try and see how it goes. :D

ahctlucabbuS
04-03-2003, 08:54 AM
So how hard would it actually be to implement an error correction device into Kazaa, perhaps an add on tool is possible??

KANADIANborn
04-03-2003, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by omnix32@27 March 2003 - 01:56
You'll need at least 35 gig to share to get on most hubs which should not be a problem as I know most you have pleanty of sources to share.......


I've been trying to D/L MW4 Mercs for a month(s) now off of kazaa with no luck. I only have a 14gig HD (4 of that is my shared folder), so using eMule..isn't an option for me? :(

MagicNakor
04-03-2003, 11:31 AM
That's referring to Direct Connect, not eMule. You shouldn't have any problems with eMule.

As a side note, I don't share 35 gigs of stuff and I've never had a problem with any hubs on Direct Connect. I don't have the harddrive space to do that, but most places have a minimum 2/5/15 gig share.

:ninja: