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Afronaut
11-05-2004, 11:56 AM
Ok, the lock to the trunk on my car went tits up.
I guess the main reason is that it wont regognise the key anymore,
the key is wearn out.

I had to change the lock strat-lock allready 2 years a go.
T'was a real hassle I tell you. And expensive.

The car I have is MB 230 CE from year 1990,
I bought from Germany, it was used a little,
driven about 6000km.

Here's a pics of similar car (not my car, but the same):

http://www.rx7.se/Bilder/MB230.jpg

http://free.of.pl/m/motoryzacja/Zdjecia/Pelne/230_CE/Mercedes2.jpg
http://free.of.pl/m/motoryzacja/Zdjecia/Pelne/230_CE/Mercedes1.jpg
http://free.of.pl/m/motoryzacja/Zdjecia/Pelne/230_CE/Mercedes3.jpg

Anyone has any good tricks to get into the trunk, or how to manually open the trunk from
inside somehow.

I've hassled with the vacuum-air-pump, which was under the backseat allreay, didnt help.
I think the lock is somehow stuck, as I was trying to open it with the key;
the luck got stuck on the far-right position when I turned the key, and wont
release itself back to normal position no more.

The battery has been Off, and On, and I had the Vacuum on and Off for the central lock allready,
tried to hassle with the Key but didnt do shit.

Im currently pretty pissed off about mercedes keys, again.
:angry:

Im about to take a trip to local car-shop where i've done my bisnes before,
may that dude in there can help me a bit.

I think there's a metal plate behind the back seats, but I was wondering if any of you has done something similar before
and could gimme some tips.

I think my only option now is to forcefully (or not) got via some opening behind the backseat.

Wish me luck.

:cool2:

bigboab
11-05-2004, 12:00 PM
I am sure some Chavs/Neds will PM you with an answer soon. good luck.:)

Afronaut
11-05-2004, 12:02 PM
Like, im a Chav or Ned?

riiight...

Afronaut
11-05-2004, 12:02 PM
My hair, my hair....

DanB
11-05-2004, 12:02 PM
I know how to get in the doors but not the boots :ph34r:

I think if you can take the back seats down and get in there there is something you can fiddle with. Have you tried lifting the boot while wiggling the key?

Good name change btw :lol:


Where's Illumninati when you need him? :P

Afronaut
11-05-2004, 12:04 PM
well, i try not be too violent, so I wont break teh key inside the luck, but yeah,
I have tried to wiggle the stuff...

:P

Jon L. Obscene
11-05-2004, 12:06 PM
Heafty screwdriver in the lock :01:
Ring it open :01:

That works on Escorts and Rovers, not sure about Mercs tho :unsure:

Jonno :cool:

Afronaut
11-05-2004, 12:06 PM
I got a book, in Swedish actually, which is not a problem to me,
but when it comes to the Trunk on that book, every chapter begins:
"Step 1.: Open the trunk...."

So, it dont help much.

It helps for removing the backseats etc. which is not really a problem, but I thought of
askin before I remove everything, (and lose the screws etc)

My fear is there's a full metalplate behind the backseats, which means I have to cut through.
I can do that also, but I dont think it helps on a resale value.

DanB
11-05-2004, 12:09 PM
I got a book, in Swedish actually, which is not a problem to me,
but when it comes to the Trunk on that book, every chapter begins:
"Step 1.: Open the trunk...."

So, it dont help much.

It helps for removing the backseats etc. which is not really a problem, but I thought of
askin before I remove everything, (and lose the screws etc)

My fear is there's a full metalplate behind the backseats, which means I have to cut through.
I can do that also, but I dont think it helps on a resale value.


Not a very helpful manual then :lol:

I think cutting a hole would definiteley reduce the resale value :(
Perhaps you should pay that car dealer a visit before taking them drastic steps .

bigboab
11-05-2004, 12:10 PM
Try one of your local garages. They will open it for you.:)

Afronaut
11-05-2004, 12:11 PM
When I changed the mainlock, you know, the one besides the steering-wheel,
it didnt accept the keyno more, that was wearn out also, it was a fight.

Apparently the protective parts, the plate in front etc. is extremely hard metal,
I guess its the same on trunk lock too.

Couldn't make even a scratch with huge tools or drills, the lock had to be put on pieces
before I could change it.

We really tried to forcefully blow the lock, and I know know, its useless way to go.

I know I need to get into the trunk from behind the backseat,
there's suppose to be a manual switch for the lock.

Thanks for tips, this far.

I really must dash now.

To teh Car-Shop -----> Swing...

Afronaut
11-05-2004, 12:12 PM
And other thing is, im kinda in a hurry with this.

When thing's go to hell, they do big time, hehe...

Jon L. Obscene
11-05-2004, 12:14 PM
lol, I like the way you're in a hurry but posting in here :lol:

Hope you get it sorted dude :) If not you could always take an angle grinder to the boot and cut yourself a new keyhole :01:

Jonno :cool:

DanB
11-05-2004, 12:16 PM
Good luck


Do you reckcon he has a body in the back? :ph34r:

Jon L. Obscene
11-05-2004, 12:19 PM
I dunno, I'm getting visions of the Enchantment Under The Sea dance from Back to the future :ph34r:

Maybe he has a time traveler in there :unsure:

Jonno :cool:

Afronaut
11-05-2004, 12:19 PM
Good luck


Do you reckcon he has a body in the back? :ph34r:
:ph34r:

That's where the Perma-Ban folks go,
and its startin' to smell...

Afronaut
11-05-2004, 12:20 PM
Feck, I really has to go now.,..

manker
11-05-2004, 12:30 PM
Do you have a membership with the AA or other car recovery firm.

Whenever something goes wrong with the ferrari ( :rolleyes: ) - like a flat tyre - I just give them a call, they've got my keys out once or twice for me in the dim and distant past, so popping a boot wouldn't be beyond them.

Is this GS, btw?

Also Dan probably has the only answer, you need to PM Illuminati :D

DanB
11-05-2004, 12:31 PM
:lol: you call them out for a flat tyre Manker?

manker
11-05-2004, 12:33 PM
Fooking right, doesn't everyone :unsure:

DanB
11-05-2004, 12:34 PM
Fooking right, doesn't everyone :unsure:


The time you spend waiting for them to turn up you could change all 4 :lol:

manker
11-05-2004, 12:36 PM
The time you spend waiting for them to turn up you could change all 4 :lol:
:ohmy: :lol:

You don't know how wrong you are. I don't even know if I've got a screwdriver or whatever in the car :(

Jon L. Obscene
11-05-2004, 12:37 PM
Whenever something goes wrong with the ferrari

Spelt F.i.e.s.t.a.x.r.2, with a boot full of speakers and cd's :01:

Jonno :cool:

manker
11-05-2004, 12:44 PM
Yeah, I don't really own a Ferrari, well spotted :(


:D

Afronaut
11-05-2004, 01:38 PM
Well, I took off teh backseats, as I thought, there's solid metal plate behind.
But, I was chatting with a friend of mine, and we're gping to try to make a some sorta
hole on the shell, not through the plate, as there's the tank behind.

I usually try to hassle with the car me self, its really not anything special about that car,
its about 14 years old, the technics are not too difficult, ie: its not full of computers, there's
some stuff but mostly mechanics.

From my experience, stay the hell outta that type of cars
:D
They're expensive to use, one would thought that they could make a
decent, or, more reliable lock on car like that but I guess not....

The electric window engines have been a pain in the ass too,
they pop about once in 2 years.

"Original" dealer parts cost wayyyy too much, it helps to make friends
on car-shops thought, and im not talking about salesmen.
;)

I've changed parts for about 30 to 40 % of the prize as if I'd do "the Manker",
,meaming, if I called repairman or some company everytime there'san issue,
heheh...

No, im not rich, in fact, im extremely broke atm. so thats why calling official
companys etc. is not an option at all. I gotta figure this out meself.
;)

Why I got that car in a first place?
I guess my only excuse is "I was young and stopid"
It was cheap, I thought of selling it after couple of years but
there was some changes in tha "major-plans in my life" plus the laws
did change about the taxes and whatnot and I thought of just hold on to it.

It's basicallty a really nice car to drive, but there's no room enough inside, or trunk
for my guitars etc. and it is expensive to keep.

Im trying to sell it soon, and probably get me some sorta Van, i mean,
those nasty japanese kinder eggs, not American..
(wait a sec, maybe i'll get me an Afrovan...)
;)

Afronaut
11-05-2004, 01:38 PM
Lotsa typos, im not fixing it...
sorry.

bujub22
11-05-2004, 07:14 PM
FOUND THE KEY

http://www.halflife2gauge.com/hl2/weapons/crowbar.gif

Afronaut
11-05-2004, 09:20 PM
FOUND THE KEY

http://www.halflife2gauge.com/hl2/weapons/crowbar.gif

Not bad, pretty close to teh tools we used today.

There was a small hole in the shell to get hold on tothe lock from inside the car.
But, time ran out for today, we'll continue tomorrow.

Have to do some tools, weld some parts tomorrow (special tools)
so we can loosen up the lock from the chassis, its mounted with 3 bolts,
10mm.

The tongue that holds the "door" itself is kinda stuck, and we cant get hold on to it, yet. Maybe tomorrow, with a little luck...

The vacuum system works the way it suppose to (central-lock) but since the toungue is
somewhat stuck, the pump dont have enough power to open it.
We're hoping to use some special tools to force the tongue, (maybe the better word is hook) off the hole.




Should I move this to teh Hardwareworld now?
Maybe Rip teh Jacker, Cloker or Lynx has some tips?
(they probably just want to "overclock" some parts, or fixmy coolin + fan)
:)

bujub22
11-05-2004, 09:27 PM
damn sounds like u need this
http://www.narics.net/cscz/image/weapons/blowtorch.jpg

and be doin this
http://www.govinst.com/assets/images/pics/blowtorch.jpg

DanB
11-05-2004, 09:28 PM
Sounds like grierf :(

namzuf9
11-05-2004, 11:55 PM
Drill the fucker out from the outside with a diamond drill bit would be my best bet on that one. It sounds like you need a new lock anyways, if it was the c/l motor playing up you should still be able to open it with the key.

I work for a motor dealership in sunny England so if you need a new lock give us a shout and I might be able to get a good price for you (even with the price of shipping added on, apparently the UK has good prices for car parts.)

I've gotta work tomorrow anyhows so I might get a price for you.

hobbes
11-06-2004, 12:05 AM
Look, stop being so dense.

Why don't you ask the chav you have locked in the trunk to hit the internal release.

Ta Da.

That wasn't so hard was it?

bujub22
11-06-2004, 04:09 AM
Look, stop being so dense.

Why don't you ask the chav you have locked in the trunk to hit the internal release.

Ta Da.

That wasn't so hard was it?
:lol: he wont help cuz he know if he help there could be somewhere where the fishs sleep around the corner

tesco
11-06-2004, 04:28 AM
with old cars you can just use a knife or a screw driver and stick it slightly into the hole and it turns the lock. :lol:

soo easy to do. One time i did it with my finger nail but i broke the finger nail so never tried that again. :(

Rat Faced
11-06-2004, 09:42 PM
Its a crap car anyway... get a new one :P

Afronaut
11-06-2004, 09:44 PM
Look, stop being so dense.

Why don't you ask the chav you have locked in the trunk to hit the internal release.

Ta Da.

That wasn't so hard was it?


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ok, so, we had to make a hole on the hatshelf (on the metalplate), a friend of mine released a plate that
hold the lock and the other parts, we was able to wiggle it open, sort of,
even without braking much stuff.

The lock was then modified so now I can open and close the trunk,
but I cannot lock it before I buy me a new lock.

Just in case, Im probably going to get new locks on the doors also,
that would work on the same key. (for next 10 year before they're "done")

Overall, muchos swearing and some drops sweat, but I got a temporar
solution, which was all I needed now, sort of happy ending, heheh.

Thanks for "really good tips" and overall support.

:)