It's a bit of an animal

[Jon L. Obscene]

http://www.pxl8.co.uk/images/Peperami.jpg

I had the Wideboy (extra large) version of this snack earlier, I read the ingridients,

Pork = 108% :huh:

Seriously, it says pork 108% :huh:

How?

Jonno :cool:

[Afronaut]

Concentrated?

[bujub22]

:huh: sounds like mo than a snack :ph34r:

[DanB]

lets see the wrapper

[bigboab]

You believed it Jonno. Its a porky.:lol: :lol: :lol:

[100%]

the makeUp adds the eXtra 8%

logic

[lynx]

That's the raw ingredients.

Of course when you cook it you lose one vital part - the "Oink". :P

That must make up at least 8%, so it shows what crap they use for the rest of it.

[Jon L. Obscene]

lets see the wrapper

I can't Dan, I got no scanner atm, besides you know I could fake that quite easily, I swear on my soul that's what it said, on 2 of them :ph34r:

@Lynx.... I don't even wanna think what cut of pork it is :sick:

Jonno :cool:

[DanB]

eeww

[manker]

Perhaps there is like 20% free so as a kinda gimmick it is saying that it contains 108% pork.

Send em an email, incorrect maths is almost as bad as incorrect grammar :dry:

[Emdee]

Replace 'pork' with 'fat' and that'd be about right.

Pepperami's are known to have ridiculous amounts of fat in them.

[Jon L. Obscene]

Yup and maffs is my forty :01:

Jonno :cool:

[DanB]

Redjacks are 88% fat :01:

[Jon L. Obscene]

Pork Dripping sarnies beats that :01:

Jonno :cool:

[hobbes]

100% pork meat

8% pork attitude.

http://www.ralf-stumpp.de/angry-pig.jpg

Seriously, these pork sticks are giving your coronary arteries "the finger".

[vidcc]

http://www.klorg.com/humor/pork.jpg

[DarthInsinuate]

http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/googleisyourfriend.gif (http://www.google.com)

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=233329&st=15

[DanB]

that cleared that up then

[DarthInsinuate]

actually, i didn't understand it, can some one explain without mentioning percentages, i don't do maths

[manker]

actually, i didn't understand it, can some one explain without mentioning percentages, i don't do maths
When they put the raw materials into the machine it gets compressed and then squeezed into the pepperami tube.

The compressing part takes out some of the water and other stuff.

The law requires you to state precentages of the raw materials rather than what is inside the wrapper, thus some of the percentages on the wrapper appear skewed.

[Jon L. Obscene]

actually, i didn't understand it, can some one explain without mentioning percentages, i don't do maths

It says that the product wieghs 150g and is all pork, then the water contained in the pork is removed and the product wieghs less so there for what you started with is 8% more than you have now.

this however is heavily flawed

He said 30g or the pork is water, therefore it's not pork :whistling
Also by definition alone you can't get more than 100%, unless you're a sportsman who always goes out there and gives it 110% :01:

Jonno :cool: %

[DarthInsinuate]

huh?

[Jon L. Obscene]

Actually having thought about it, there are other ingridients too, spices, herbs, flavours etc, they are'nt part of the pork :huh:

Jonno :cool:

[DanB]

Actually having thought about it, there are other ingridients too, spices, herbs, flavours etc, they are'nt part of the pork :huh:

Jonno :cool:


Your point being? :unsure:

[Jon L. Obscene]

Well if there are other ingridients that are not part of pork, yet pork takes up 108% of the ingridients then where are the others? That would mmean there is -8% spices etc :blink:

Jonno :cool:

[manker]

Just read my previous post :rolleyes:

[DanB]

you're confused.



"The UK Food Labelling Regulations 1996 require that most pre-packed foods have a quantitative ingredient declaration for major ingredients. These are normally expressed as a percentage and must be expressed in terms of the ingredients at the "mixing bowl" stage.

If water is lost during processing (due to drying in the case of salami) then the sum of the ingredient weights will be greater than the final product weight. A simple example is tomato ketchup, which contains 120 per cent tomatoes. "

The spices etc are added in with the pork, water comes out stuff binds together. Because they have to state what is in thier in the mixing bowl stage they use that weight of pork(ie the weight before its been tampered with)

[Jon L. Obscene]

Yes I am confused, cos there is no such thing as 108%, whatever way you look at it, 108% does not exist :huh:

Stupid labels :angry:

Jonno :cool:

[enoughfakefiles]

Yes I am confused, cos there is no such thing as 108%, whatever way you look at it, 108% does not exist :huh:

Stupid labels :angry:

Jonno :cool:

Did`nt this bloke make something that added up to 106%. :01:

http://archerpelican.typepad.com/tap/ww-gene.jpg

[manker]

Since it's been explained that the percentages on the label are calculated from the weights of the original ingredients at the mixing bowl stage and not when they are condensed at the packaged stage I don't see what's so difficult to comprehend.

[TheDave]

maybe its like alcohol where 10% proof isnt 10% alcohol

[Jon L. Obscene]

@EFF......Yeah that sounds about right :lol:

@Manker ..... Is there such a thing as 108% ?

@Dave ..... No they are 2 different measures :) The Proof is twice the actual amount of alcohol by volume :)

Jonno :cool:

[DanB]

:) :) :)

[manker]

Yes :)

[TheDave]

ive been away for a bit and on a 48k modem so i aint onna ssearch for it... jonnno id you get that shop or have i just put my foot in it?

[Jon L. Obscene]

Wer er I don't see how but if you say so :)
100% by definition is the largest amount possible.

@Dave. . No mate, I pulled out, I could'nt give myself enough security to have a 4 grand per month loan :(

Jonno :cool:

[manker]

Wer er I don't see how but if you say so :)
100% by definition is the largest amount possible.

Jonno :cool:
108 is 108% of 100 :)

[DanB]

When you get 25% extra free on your Yorkie you end up with 125% :unsure:

[Jon L. Obscene]

Fair enough :)

Jonno :cool:

[manker]

Well left :)

[Guillaume]

108 is 108% of 100 :)
Yes, but that only works in the ethereal world of numbers... Not in your actual physical reality. :blink:

edit: anyway you shouldn't eat these snacks, Jon. Unless you want teh man boobs back. ;)

[manker]

Yes, but that only works in the ethereal world of numbers... Not in your actual physical reality. :blink:
Don't talk daft man. If I've got 100 smarties and someone gives me 8 more then I've got 108% of what I started with.

Nothing intangible about that.

[Guillaume]

You're considering the numbers.
You can't increase the percentage of a finished product.
In your smarties example the actual smartie hasn't augmented of 8%

[Jon L. Obscene]

The Answer To All (http://www.pepperami.co.uk)

:01:

Jonno :cool:

[DanB]

You're considering the numbers.
You can't increase the percentage of a finished product.
In your smarties example the actual smartie hasn't augmented of 8%

In this instance they were comparing the finished product to the starting ingredients, the starting amount of pork was 108% more than the finished article, it is purely a number though just that for informational purposes as required by law :)

[manker]

You're considering the numbers.
You can't increase the percentage of a finished product.
In your smarties example the actual smartie hasn't augmented of 8%
Of course.

However, you said my example would only work with intangibles, I proved that it would also work with tangibles too.

[Jon L. Obscene]

the starting amount of pork was 108% more than the finished article,

:huh: You mean 8% more? :unsure:

Jonno :cool:

[DanB]

wtf? you've managed to confuse me now :frusty:

[manker]

OK.

To make a pepperami they started off with 108 grammes of pork and 20 grammes of 'other spicy stuff' - making 128 grammes altogether. - call this stage one.

When they treated this mixture it lost around 28 grammes of water through evaporation, making the final weight 100 grammes. - call this stage two.

Then they put the stuff into the packet - stage three.

So the law requires to express the percentages on the packet in terms of the individual componants in stage one.

So the pork = 108 grammes (stage 1) out of a total of 100 grammes (stage 3) = 108%

[DarthInsinuate]

oh, i funderstand now, i'm gonna apply for my free pepperami

[thecreator89]

Here's an idea:ph34r:

its a typo?

More likely just some idiot at the plant playing a prank.

[DanB]

:lol: me too

[Jon L. Obscene]

Thankyou Manker :)

But you must agree it would be less confusing to put "Pork 108g" instead of 108% :frusty:

@Dan .. :lol: You said it would be 108% more, I think you meant 8% more otherwise it would end up 208% :01:

Maths is a beatiful thing, maths is a wonderful thing, so get off your ass and do some maths, math math math math maaaaaaaaaaaath :01:

Jonno :cool:

[thecreator89]

Thankyou Manker :)


Maths is a beatiful thing, maths is a wonderful thing, so get off your ass and do some maths, math math math math maaaaaaaaaaaath :01:

Jonno :cool: Yo you crazy:P:D

[Jon L. Obscene]

54 is to 45 more so what is the answer Marthaaaaaa?

Nine

No iiiit'sssss eiiiiiight....

No it's niiiiiiiiine

Yeees I was testing you..IT'S .... Niiiiine

:01:

Jonno :cool:

[thecreator89]

54 is to 45 more so what is the answer Marthaaaaaa?

Nine

No iiiit'sssss eiiiiiight....

No it's niiiiiiiiine

Yeees I was tesing you..IT'S .... Niiiiine

:01:

Jonno :cool: YOU GOTTAAA SSSSTOP Maaaahn!!
IIIssss Kiiiiillin' meeeh!:crying::lol:

[Jon L. Obscene]

And that's the magic numbeeerrrrrrrrrrrr :01:

*follows thru to next mathamatical song*

THREE!!!..........is teh magic number.......yes it is.....it's the magic number

Jonno :cool:

[lynx]

See, you shouldn't argue with Manker, he knows all about pigs and sheep and things. :blink:

[manker]

lynx respects my farmyard authoritah!