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Rip The Jacker
11-21-2004, 03:16 AM
I'm doing a report on violence in video games, and I was wondering... what was the first ever rated "M" video game?

:huh:

EDIT: Also... in your opinion, what do you think is the most violent video game? :gunsmilie

cpt_azad
11-21-2004, 03:16 AM
wolfenstein3d, i think. nice sig btw ;)

twister
11-21-2004, 03:23 AM
doom 2, and most violent postal 2 or manhunt

Rip The Jacker
11-21-2004, 03:29 AM
For sure Doom 2 was the first rated "M" game?

@cpt_azad
Thanks, stupid dog. :P

cpt_azad
11-21-2004, 03:33 AM
lol, ya :lol:

-- didn't wolfenstein 3d come out b4 doom2? or was doom2 the first game to get "M" through ESRB.

Rip The Jacker
11-21-2004, 03:44 AM
lol, ya :lol:

-- didn't wolfenstein 3d come out b4 doom2? or was doom2 the first game to get "M" through ESRB.
I have no idea, and Google won't help either. :(

I'm looking for the first game to officially be rated "M" by ESRB.

silent h3ro
11-21-2004, 03:54 AM
Definitly Manhunt is the most violent.

Peerzy
11-21-2004, 03:55 AM
Manhunt

Haz
11-21-2004, 03:57 AM
According to the ESRB website Doom (the original) was the first, well it's the first one listed. Listed from newest to oldest so it's a good bet.

ESRB (http://esrb.com/search_results.asp?whichpage=41&pagesize=20&rat_5=Mature&count1=6&desID0=32&desID1=8&desID2=24&desID3=28&desID4=37&desID5=4&desID6=44&desID7=31&desID8=23&desID9=38&desID10=27&desID11=22&desID12=39&desID13=30&desID14=13&desID15=47&desID16=43&desID17=46&desID18=10&desID19=25&desID20=45&desID21=34&desID22=41&desID23=42&desID24=40&desID25=15&desID26=11&desID27=26&desID28=14&desID29=12&desID30=33&desID31=35&desID32=21&desID33=36&desID34=20&desID35=29&count2=36&platID0=12&platID1=17&platID2=18&platID3=19&platID4=20&platID5=32&platID6=42&platID7=5&platID8=34&platID9=33&platID10=22&platID11=39&platID12=3&platID13=6&platID14=43&platID15=41&platID16=36&platID17=24&platID18=11&platID19=30&platID20=25&platID21=37&platID22=26&platID23=13&platID24=14&platID25=31&platID26=7&platID27=8&platID28=15&platID29=10&platID30=4&platID31=40&platID32=16&platID33=35&platID34=44&count3=35&pub=&key=&type=game)

My first guess was Mortal Kombat but that was way later.

Edit: Last one listed, it's the last one listed, jeez.

orcutt989
11-21-2004, 04:01 AM
Postal 2 and Manhunt.

cpt_azad
11-21-2004, 04:19 AM
not manhunt, the question is what was the FIRST EVER game rated as "M". not the most violent.

cpt_azad
11-21-2004, 04:20 AM
oh, and doom (original) came out AFTER wolfenstein3d. doesnt make sense, but i guess ESRB didn't give a shit back then (wolf3d), and got more involved when doom came out. and no good sir, i do not know what the "edit" button is :)

Rip The Jacker
11-21-2004, 04:28 AM
not manhunt, the question is what was the FIRST EVER game rated as "M". not the most violent.
Re-read my first post in this thread, I edited it a while ago. :P

Haz
11-21-2004, 04:44 AM
The ESRB wasn't around when Wolfenstein came out.

They formed somewhere around the sega 32X days, so it makes sense that Doom was the first one to catch the heat when they ported it to the 32X.

And they've been letting gamers know which games are worth playing (M) and which ones you should stay away from (E) ever since. :D

bujub22
11-21-2004, 04:47 AM
i believe mortal kombat was the first?

Rip The Jacker
11-21-2004, 04:47 AM
Thanks for the link Haz, my report is looking good. :D

I also think Manhunt is one of the most violent video games.

3RA1N1AC
11-21-2004, 05:44 AM
oh, and doom (original) came out AFTER wolfenstein3d. doesnt make sense, but i guess ESRB didn't give a shit back then (wolf3d), and got more involved when doom came out. and no good sir, i do not know what the "edit" button is :)
well, they did give ratings to a lot of games when they were re-released. Wolf 3D would've acquired a rating when it was re-released as a CD-Rom.

as for Doom being the first, ESRB lists the Sega CD version of Doom, which might have been released on the same date as a number of other M-Rated games. who knows what date they would've actually been given the ratings on. maybe the ESRB list has it in the proper order... or maybe not.

notice that Night Trap is one of the first few games on the list, even though it was originally released a couple of years before the ratings began. in fact Night Trap and Mortal Kombat were two of the main examples that were used by people in the anti-game movement that led to the industry creating the ESRB as a way to regulate itself (i.e. keep the gov't out of it). so, why's Night Trap near the beginning of the list if it's so much older than the ESRB? 'cause Sega re-released the game around that time, and it received a mature rating despite Sega going so far as to censor the new cd.

i don't think it's all that important to figure out which one received a mature rating first. it's prolly more relevant to point out that the first batches of mature-rated games included re-releases of Doom, Night Trap and Mortal Kombat, which were precisely the games that the censorship wonks had been complaining about for the previous year or two.

bigdawgfoxx
11-21-2004, 06:32 AM
manhunt is most violent for sure imo

cpt_azad
11-21-2004, 07:16 AM
ya manhunt definately is the most violent, i won't even argue there.

good runner up is SOF2, i love the mutilation :D

Vamp
11-21-2004, 09:40 AM
Ummm Soldier Of Fortune or number 2?

muchspl2
11-21-2004, 06:45 PM
phantasmgoria {sp}or doom
the earilyest I remember from my games

express98
11-21-2004, 07:38 PM
Thrill kill never got released but back then was easy to get a copy for ps 1 and king pin for pc .........

krome
11-21-2004, 10:23 PM
mortal kombat

AcID ZeR0
11-22-2004, 12:23 AM
What does "M" stand for... I'm guessing Mature?
We just have minimuin age ratings on ours the highest being 18.

twister
11-22-2004, 09:05 PM
its 17 here in the states to get a rated mature game :)

cpt_azad
11-22-2004, 09:07 PM
Ummm Soldier Of Fortune or number 2?

Soldier of Fortune 2, i loved going up to a guy shooting his guts out, getting my knife out, and carvin up his face real nice till i saw the brains :ph34r: no, i'm not a sadist :shifty:

Haz
11-23-2004, 03:28 AM
Soldier of Fortune 2, i loved going up to a guy shooting his guts out, getting my knife out, and carvin up his face real nice till i saw the brains :ph34r: no, i'm not a sadist :shifty:

What? That game sounds crazy :lol:


Wish I could get into these FPS games, everybodies all psyched about HL2 and Halo, and I just don't get the hype.

twister
11-23-2004, 03:36 AM
the hype is they kick ass!!
playing fps online is the funnest thing ever!

bujub22
11-23-2004, 04:33 AM
mortal kombat
thats what i said ;)

i remember when sega had to pull it off the shelves becuz it was so violent

Rip The Jacker
11-23-2004, 05:05 AM
Soldier of Fortune 2, i loved going up to a guy shooting his guts out, getting my knife out, and carvin up his face real nice till i saw the brains :ph34r: no, i'm not a sadist :shifty:
Damn you can do that? I gotta get a copy of SOF2. :lol:

krome
11-24-2004, 07:49 PM
thats what i said ;)

i remember when sega had to pull it off the shelves becuz it was so violent
man i remeber when it was out for SNES with no blood or fatalitys till part 2 came out...... :devil: sega needed that abacabb code for it...

i also think DOOM was the 1st...... to get that M rating

Rip The Jacker
11-25-2004, 05:41 AM
Thanks for the info everyone. I did my presentation on violence in video games today, it went very well. I talked about the whole issue for a few minutes, then we needed to show a visual, so I rented Manhunt for Xbox, and recorded myself playing it, and showed it to the class.

I got a lot of good responses, the class was actually interested. During the violent stealth kills, the guys would say things like "Damn that was crazy!" and the girls were like "Oh my god!" :lol:

In the end I got comments like "great presentation man," and "damn can I borrow that game?" :P

Thanks again. :D