where to get amazing file compressor?

[gildan2020]

hi,
how did some ppl manage to compress a lot of data files totalling around 18mb into a small 2mb rar file? :blink:
...also, the decompression was amazingly faster than a .cab file :ohmy:

where can i get that program?


thx,
gildan2020

[Livy]

uharc? http://brhack.net/index.php?id=25
http://www.rarsoft.com

[gildan2020]

uharc? http://brhack.net/index.php?id=25
http://www.rarsoft.com
hey, winrar is performing great


thx,
gildan2020

[Livy]

i also use winace, http://www.winace.com which is pretty good.

[zapjb]

I use IZArc decompresses over 30 formats including .rar,.zip,7zip etc. Compresses to 11 different formats including .zip, 7zip (my fav), .tar etc. And it's freeware. :01:

[gildan2020]

hmm...after much testing with rar
it still eludes me as to how some ppl can compress 18mb into just a meagre 2mb rar.
The best i can do with winrar is just 5mb using the best compression (it provides, afaik)

i know ace/7zip/cab have reputation of performing good compression (when compared with zip), but this rar file is amazingly small (and they're mostly binary data).


gildan2020

[4play]

binary data will not compress very well. try compressing some text with these tools and i bet it will show better results.

[Money Fist]

i did a few tests with diff compressions (zip rar ace cab)
also tested them on lots of diff file formats

.CAB came out ontop for som reason

7zip is real good
havent tested it against .cab tho

[gildan2020]

i did a few tests with diff compressions (zip rar ace cab)
also tested them on lots of diff file formats

.CAB came out ontop for som reason

7zip is real good
havent tested it against .cab tho
wat did u use to create .cab archives?


gildan2020

[Money Fist]

winace can do it

it suprised me
because it pressed better then .ace in most cases :S

[Money Fist]

ok i did another test
i used the 4 biggest .files in my office 2003 folder

winword.exe (12,037,688 bytes)
excel.exe (10,073,144 bytes)
fpeditax.dll (6,600,256 bytes)
frontpg.exe (4,425,272 bytes)

.CAB (13,219,941 bytes)
.RAR (13,403,861 bytes) ,solid
.ACE (13,519,624 bytes) ,solid , 4megs dictionary
.7zip (11,444,156 bytes) ,solid, 256meg dict, PPMd

winner: .7zip
but u will need at least 256 mb of RAM to unpack it LOL

added: results will vary depending on the coding of file u are pressing
so dont take results to heart TOO much

altho i have never seen .RAR beat .CAB yet

[Samurai]

WinRAR in any case.

[Peerzy]

Uhrc or whatever its called, thats what rip scene groups use to compact stuff like Simpsons Hit And Run from 1.2Gb down to 126mb.

[gildan2020]

i thought scene groups use rars?
rar might not be able to defeat cab in terms of compression (a tight competition if referring to Fiber's test), but i think in terms of decompression speed rar still wins.


gildan2020

[Peerzy]

i thought scene groups use rars?
rar might not be able to defeat cab in terms of compression (a tight competition if referring to Fiber's test), but i think in terms of decompression speed rar still wins.


gildan2020

Yes scene groups use rar, scene rip groups use Uhrc (Sp), these are the groups that rip say the music then privide the games for 56k and slow net users. They are usually 50mb-300mb and extracted to anywhere between 700mb-2gb.

[nsane]

ok i did another test
i used the 4 biggest .files in my office 2003 folder

winword.exe (12,037,688 bytes)
excel.exe (10,073,144 bytes)
fpeditax.dll (6,600,256 bytes)
frontpg.exe (4,425,272 bytes)

.CAB (13,219,941 bytes)
.RAR (13,403,861 bytes) ,solid
.ACE (13,519,624 bytes) ,solid , 4megs dictionary
.7zip (11,444,156 bytes) ,solid, 256meg dict, PPMd

winner: .7zip
but u will need at least 256 mb of RAM to unpack it LOL

added: results will vary depending on the coding of file u are pressing
so dont take results to heart TOO much

altho i have never seen .RAR beat .CAB yet
try using 7zip, LZMA, solid, dict. 12MB, word 255. it'll be even smaller ;)

[Filliz]

I use IZArc decompresses over 30 formats including .rar,.zip,7zip etc. Compresses to 11 different formats including .zip, 7zip (my fav), .tar etc. And it's freeware. :01:


:01: Yeah! :01:
IZArc owns all!!!

And it's free :cool:

http://www.izsoft.dir.bg/

[Money Fist]

try using 7zip, LZMA, solid, dict. 12MB, word 255. it'll be even smaller ;)
wow never knew LZMA would be smaller
i will do a retest later


IZArc owns all!!!

And it's free
7zip is free too
and im sure it owns IZArc (i will test it now)

go do a test
http://www.7-zip.org/

[Money Fist]

IZArc is good
but its a rip off of 7zip (just an unconfigurable version)
and has usless compressions

[winXPHE]

i think UHARC is the shit. but the GUI mite b a problem

[Money Fist]

try using 7zip, LZMA, solid, dict. 12MB, word 255. it'll be even smaller ;)
yep
LZMA beat PPMD

[Tifosi]

Uhrc or whatever its called, thats what rip scene groups use to compact stuff like Simpsons Hit And Run from 1.2Gb down to 126mb.

1.2 gigs to 126 megs...I doubt it. You sure it wasn't a rip?

[Peerzy]

1.2 gigs to 126 megs...I doubt it. You sure it wasn't a rip?

The Simpsons Hit And Run was about 150mb and extracted to just over 1.3 gb. It was a rip as the full game was 1.6gb. So they ripped out 400mb and used ultra compression. Same with command and conqure Generals. That was 100mb and extracted to over 1gb.

[Tifosi]

The Simpsons Hit And Run was about 150mb and extracted to just over 1.3 gb. It was a rip as the full game was 1.6gb. So they ripped out 400mb and used ultra compression. Same with command and conqure Generals. That was 100mb and extracted to over 1gb.

Ah, right. I got the ISOs so I didn't hear about the rip

[vegeta]

The Simpsons Hit And Run was about 150mb and extracted to just over 1.3 gb. It was a rip as the full game was 1.6gb. So they ripped out 400mb and used ultra compression. Same with command and conqure Generals. That was 100mb and extracted to over 1gb.


yea it confused me for the first time too,i downloaded the rip and it was working fine!i think they used uharc 4 it!

even i have compressed 1gb to 100-150mb using winrar.

Note:i have noticed this high compression in save games only....Tested:Doom 3,half-life 2,sw:kotor,and many more......

i save the game every few seconds and this games have a small screen stored which takes some space,its compressed i thik so and the main thing is the save file if u see its properties(in xp,2000)u'll see the original disc space and the size on disc thing(its always more).here winrar takes the lead it atleast compress the files and bring its size somewhat to the original size.and sometimes less the we even expect it ;)

[nsane]

uharc is one hell of a media compressor. i compressed 3gigs of wav files down to 250MB one time, was testing it with some CDrips just for the hell of it :P

i think it proved itself tho :lol:

[Money Fist]

i remember good old uharc
i remember unpacking C&C:RA2 with it back in the days

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Compression-tools/UHARC-GUI-by-Brhack.shtml
nice GUI version is availible now

i tested with my files i pressed be4
12,342,839
it came 2nd place
altho as nsane spoke about, its better for media orientated data

[nsane]

that's actually what it was specificly devoloped for ;)

i guess the algorithms would make an ok data compressor, but i never tried it. i've found RAR, LZMA, & ZIP to be the better data compressors right now. LZMA & RAR are good for raw data, but suck if the data's packed due to the fact the algorithms cause them to expand the packed data rather than compress it further. ZIP is better to use if the data is already packed, because it won't expand the packed data, but rather just leaves it alone because it's already packed/compressed. so really, it comes down to what your trying to compress when you choose an algorithm, as there's different algorithms designed specificly to compress certain types of data ;)

i actually read an article on CNet once about a guy that's designing an algorithm, if you call it that, that looks at the binary value, 100111011, of a file (or groups of files, such as a folder) and determines a mathmaticle equation that will produce the sum of the binary value. basicly, when he's done, you'll be able to 'compress' gigs down to BYTES. imagin what that technology would do for file sharers. hell if you used a similar technology for streaming media, there would be no need for broadband and dsl. hell, you wouldn't even need a 56K for that matter, you'd download a mathmaticle equation that produces a 40gig blu-ray image in seconds on an old 34K modem :lol:

[gildan2020]

really? wow...interesting
u still know where the article is?


gildan2020

[Money Fist]

sounds too good to be true
imagin it!
forget CDs i got DOOM3 on a floppy disc

any way im gonna do a test to find out what the best compressor is for what file formats
like
.wav
.roms (yea rom files)
.jpg
.blah blah blah

[mogadishu]

i wish they would come up with an easier program that users u-harc. I tried it once but the interface was too confusing.. although i didnt mess with it very long.