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rookiecrd1
01-18-2005, 08:09 PM
Anyone have any idea when the PS3, Playstation 3 will be launched and be available in the US?

What will the price be? Will backups be able to be played in the new system?

I know that a few companies have already announced titles they will be releasing for the PS3 come 2006.

Should be interesting to follow the developments.

Brian

Peerzy
01-18-2005, 08:24 PM
Anyone have any idea when the PS3, Playstation 3 will be launched and be available in the US?

What will the price be? Will backups be able to be played in the new system?

I know that a few companies have already announced titles they will be releasing for the PS3 come 2006.

Should be interesting to follow the developments.

Brian

PS3 is first to second Quater of 2006, no idea about mod chips or playing backups. Xbox 2 is likly to be released for Xmas 2005 however.

Skiz
01-18-2005, 08:29 PM
There will most likely be two versions. The standard version where games come on discs and another pricier version were the games are purchased and downloaded directly onto the console. I don't think a release date has been set at all. Probably a few years though.

trajillo
01-18-2005, 11:01 PM
is it Xbox Next?

ApacNTS
01-18-2005, 11:24 PM
having a rival company come out before you, that's not good. ps3 may regret it.

muchspl2
01-18-2005, 11:28 PM
it most certainly will not play back up out-of-the box.

Djtima
01-19-2005, 12:48 AM
man i don't see the use of updateing ur PS2 to a PS3 or buying any other game console in that case...
i say u will ALLways be safe with a computer...
1. there are heaps of cracks for games you have to pay big money for PS2/PS3
2. there is allways online mode (for xboxers--> NO SUBSCRIPTION [most of the games])
3. graphics are the same if not better
4. if you don't like the keyboard there are game controlers with USB...

so.... stay safe with a PC

Peerzy
01-19-2005, 12:59 AM
man i don't see the use of updateing ur PS2 to a PS3 or buying any other game console in that case...
i say u will ALLways be safe with a computer...
1. there are heaps of cracks for games you have to pay big money for PS2/PS3
2. there is allways online mode (for xboxers--> NO SUBSCRIPTION [most of the games])
3. graphics are the same if not better
4. if you don't like the keyboard there are game controlers with USB...

so.... stay safe with a PC


There will always be cracks? I think your taking your games for granted. And please do show me a cracked version of Toca race Driver 2 for pc? Nope there isnt a crack out for it as its using new copy protection that is near impossible to crack. But the xbox version is out on xbox and with a £30 chip you need no crackage.

Djtima
01-19-2005, 01:01 AM
tryed this Linky: http://www.gameburnworld.com/gp/gamefixes/tocaracedriver2.htm

Mr. Elmo
01-19-2005, 01:02 AM
man i don't see the use of updateing ur PS2 to a PS3 or buying any other game console in that case...
i say u will ALLways be safe with a computer...
1. there are heaps of cracks for games you have to pay big money for PS2/PS3
2. there is allways online mode (for xboxers--> NO SUBSCRIPTION [most of the games])
3. graphics are the same if not better
4. if you don't like the keyboard there are game controlers with USB...

so.... stay safe with a PC


games for console and games for pc are different. compare the ps2 rpg's collection to the pc, there is a definate difference in the genre.

most people don't have a good enough comp to play newer games on higher setting so sometimes console with look a lot better graphically.

oh, about online for the pc, although there are no subscription fees,most crack games are not able to go online

Peerzy
01-19-2005, 01:04 AM
tryed this Linky: http://www.gameburnworld.com/gp/gamefixes/tocaracedriver2.htm


All of those are either mini images which require you to mount them, so the game is not cracked or simply bypass the cd check but not the StarForce protection so you still have the remove yor IDE cables or disable drives in BIOS. Not one of those files includes a verson of the EXE that has had it opened with a hex editor and the StarForce 3.3 protection removed, so non of them are cracks :)

Djtima
01-19-2005, 01:08 AM
well i say a computer is a grate investment...
surely you will agree PC's rpg's are easyer to control e.g mouse
and most of the RPG games on console are on PC sept for that FF 10 game...
*Cough* lame *Cough*

Djtima
01-19-2005, 01:10 AM
All of those are either mini images which require you to mount them, so the game is not cracked or simply bypass the cd check

so mount them play the game and STFU
aslong as you get to play the game right?
one more rule
5. Do everything you can to get the game to work...
^
that goes under the crack part
:D

rookiecrd1
01-19-2005, 01:31 AM
I have to agree there is a difference between playing a game on the computer and playing on a console. I personally can not stand sitting at my PC playing agame. It's just not as entertaining as hooking up a console on a big screen TV with surround sound and playing it with friends. Also I always have errors and load problems when playing on a pc, even with a pretty descent system

Brian

Mr. Elmo
01-19-2005, 01:37 AM
well i say a computer is a grate investment...
surely you will agree PC's rpg's are easyer to control e.g mouse
and most of the RPG games on console are on PC sept for that FF 10 game...
*Cough* lame *Cough*


umm...no, most rpgs on console are not on pc...except those of the xbox which is made by microsoft

cpt_azad
01-19-2005, 01:57 AM
Xbox next = no reverse compatibility (can't play xbox games) :( :( :( :mad:

as for PS3, it just might be my first console for the next gen consoles. considering it's not more then 300 bucks ;) in which case i gotta wait like 3 years after it comes out :(

Djtima
01-19-2005, 01:59 AM
I personally can not stand sitting at my PC playing agame. It's just not as entertaining as hooking up a console on a big screen TV with surround sound and playing it with friends. Also I always have errors and load problems when playing on a pc, even with a pretty descent system

there is surround sound for Pc....
i understand when it comes to firends over u need a console for multiplayer
but why have ppl over when you can do it over the net...

yes errors are probly the only thing i will diss about a computer...
although once you get the hang of it you can fix those errors by urslef
e.g look for patchs ect.

most rpgs on console are not on pc
name a few

Djtima
01-19-2005, 02:01 AM
in which case i gotta wait like 3 years after it comes out
hahahah get a job dude :lol:

HCT
01-19-2005, 02:13 AM
you can update pc games if they came with a glitch.
you cant do that on a console, your stuck with the glitch

rookiecrd1
01-19-2005, 02:54 AM
there is surround sound for Pc....
i understand when it comes to firends over u need a console for multiplayer
but why have ppl over when you can do it over the net...


Yeah but I'm not about to invest big money in a system for my PC.

Also, there is a difference in playing video games online for 12 hours a day against people online, and having a few friends over, having a few beers and playing Halo or something against eachother.

I like to socialize, and can't stand spending hours a day on the PC playing games against people. There are so many more productive things you could be doing with your life and time :)

Just my thoughts
Brian

Peerzy
01-19-2005, 03:20 PM
so mount them play the game and STFU
aslong as you get to play the game right?
one more rule
5. Do everything you can to get the game to work...
^
that goes under the crack part
:D


Nope im afraid your wrong. The ISO game scene is all about the talent of cracking the game, not by making a little program that runs and blocks the protection, becuase its still there.

Take a look at this quote taken from the very people who crack and hack games themselfs. If its not cracked, then its a CLONE ISO, not a CRACKED ISO.


Some Scene Notes:

A loader is a small program/piece of code designed to alter parts of one
or more programs to suit the user. A loader is not limited to being
EXTERNAL like some may think. Inline patching methods are not good enough
to be used in the ISO scene. Yes, inline patching IS considered a loader
for very obvious reasons (take a look at n2c inline patching tutorials).

A loader defeats the cdcheck in safedisc very well but it leaves the game
in the exact same state as it was WITH the protection, very useless to the
iso scene. In fact a loader is exactly the same as a clonecd release only
instead of using alcohol or daemon tools to play the game the LOADER tells
the protection the cd is already in the drive. So then the 'crack' is
NOT A CRACK AT ALL, it is a work-around.

Having said that, the ISO scene is about cracks. Cracks require removal of
the protection, not emulation. Almost all commercial protections can be
"made to load without the cd" but where is the honor in that? Might as
well create some clonecd group and save the trouble of creating such a
loader.

Cracking is an art and removal of commercial protections is now something
very few crackers are capable of doing. Crackers that spend a long time
working on truly cracking protections get very annoyed when others take
obvious shortcuts to get a release out before everyone else.

These LOADER cracks do not work well with some virus scanners, debuggers,
and severely slow down the game on low-end machines. Removing a cd
protection from a game, or using a legitimate crack could mean the
difference between night and day for some people.

A valid ISO release is as follows:

If you release a securom game, you release it with SECUROM REMOVED!
THUS CRACKED.

If you release a safedisc game, you release it with SAFEDISC REMOVED!
THUS CRACKED.

If you release a starforce game you release it with STARFORCE REMOVED!
THUS CRACKED.

If you release a tages game you release it with TAGES REMOVED!
THUS CRACKED.


If the cd protection is activated when you play a game, it is not
cracked. As long one can play without the protection being active,
then it is a crack. The protection must in no way be active! These
loaders invoke the protection directly, and thus are not valid.

Working around a protection simply DOES NOT cut it. One must remove it.

vegeta
01-19-2005, 03:52 PM
man i don't see the use of updateing ur PS2 to a PS3 or buying any other game console in that case...
i say u will ALLways be safe with a computer...
1. there are heaps of cracks for games you have to pay big money for PS2/PS3
2. there is allways online mode (for xboxers--> NO SUBSCRIPTION [most of the games])
3. graphics are the same if not better
4. if you don't like the keyboard there are game controlers with USB...

so.... stay safe with a PC


thats all the points which proves that a pc is superior then any console out there :)

+ you dont have to wait years 4 its upgrede,there r new chips,parts,avalable every few months :)

Peerzy
01-19-2005, 03:55 PM
man i don't see the use of updateing ur PS2 to a PS3 or buying any other game console in that case...
i say u will ALLways be safe with a computer...
1. there are heaps of cracks for games you have to pay big money for PS2/PS3
2. there is allways online mode (for xboxers--> NO SUBSCRIPTION [most of the games])
3. graphics are the same if not better
4. if you don't like the keyboard there are game controlers with USB...

so.... stay safe with a PC

1) Read my above post
2) About 5% of games are cracked to play online, 95% of games cannot be played online with cracks.
3) All depends on the game, Cronicals Of Riddick has better graphics than UT2004, they were released around the same time as well.
4) You can now get an adapter to plug your keyboard into an Xbox, so you can play with keyboard and mouse on Xbox as well.


:)

Djtima
01-20-2005, 05:03 AM
Nope im afraid your wrong. The ISO game scene is all about the talent of cracking the game, not by making a little program that runs and blocks the protection, becuase its still there.

Take a look at this quote taken from the very people who crack and hack games themselfs. If its not cracked, then its a CLONE ISO, not a CRACKED ISO.

Its not a popularity competion...
the idea is to get the game to work so you can enjoy it without haveing to pay a hefty price

SingaBoiy
01-20-2005, 05:08 AM
thats all the points which proves that a pc is superior then any console out there :)

+ you dont have to wait years 4 its upgrede,there r new chips,parts,avalable every few months :)
Yep, you can always buy $400 of equiptment a few times a year to stay up-to-date with a pc ;)

Peerzy
01-20-2005, 10:10 PM
Its not a popularity competion...
the idea is to get the game to work so you can enjoy it without haveing to pay a hefty price


No the point is the skills involved in cracking the game and respect gained through cracking a game with tough protection. Crack groups don't do it so they don't have to pay, otherwise why would they release it to the public and face an RIAA manhunt for them? Its all for the art of cracking, they want to prove themselfs as the best group in the scene.

Release groups such as Maven and Video CD (Telesync movies) pay there cammers in the bucket loads to cam and telesync movies, and they release them and what they get out of it is the knowledge that everybody who's into P2P knows their name, knows their the best and wants to be part of their group.