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Barbarossa
01-21-2005, 11:36 AM
(Some readers may find this subject matter disturbing)

On an ethical basis, I refuse to eat veal. In fact last year on holiday I had the vegetarian option instead, as veal was the only other choice on the menu.

I was surprised to learn during a discussion at the weekend that many people I know didn't seem to know how veal was produced, and how cruel it is.

Just thought I'd open it up to the forum to discuss...

As a bit of backgroud, veal crates have been illegal in the UK since 1990, and will be outlawed in the EU from 2007. I don't know what the position is in the US.

Here are a couple of random sites I had discovered on this subject.. (some readers may find this subject matter disturbing)

The argument against:
http://www.ciwf.ie/farminfo/farmfacts_veal.html

The argument for:
http://www.ofac.org/factsheets/fact9.html

Guillaume
01-21-2005, 11:41 AM
Yes, but only milk-fed and coming from farms I know. So, no veal crates, only large fields.

Same goes about every meat/poultry/dairy I eat.

manker
01-21-2005, 11:58 AM
The thought of eating veal makes me feel a bit sick but for those that eat meat, is there not a widely available 'organic' or 'free range' alternative, as Gurahl mentioned, which doesn't involve crateage? I feel there must be but I know little on the matter.

I'm not a vegetarian on moral grounds, as such, I simply don't enjoy the taste or texture of meat, that may be because of a psychosomatic response due to watching Charlotte's Web or something as a nipper but I've not really taken the time to think in depth about it. I stopped eating meat when I was about twelve or thirteen.

However, I continued eating fish because my at the time my parents thought I'd die if I didn't. I still eat fish now, which probably makes me quite the hypocrite ... but meh.

Guillaume
01-21-2005, 12:28 PM
is there not a widely available 'organic' or 'free range' alternative, as Gurahl mentioned, which doesn't involve crateage?

There is but these products are generally prohibitively expensive. So people tend to forget the way the calves, if they are informed at all.

vidcc
01-21-2005, 10:04 PM
I don't eat veal but that probably had more to do with availability than morals.

I am a carnivore through and through but wherever possible i only eat meat that i can be assured was raised and slaughtered humanely. I say "wherever possible" as one can't always be sure and has to take the word of the supplier.

Vegetable though can go screw themselves

manker
01-21-2005, 10:27 PM
Vegetable though can go screw themselvesIs that supposed to be vegetarians or vegetables. Either way you're upsetting a minority group :(

vidcc
01-21-2005, 10:38 PM
Is that supposed to be vegetarians or vegetables. Either way you're upsetting a minority group :(

just missing an "s" :ermm: ..if vegetables were supposed to be eaten they would be made out of meat ;)

Either way i can outrun any vegetable, and just how hard could someone hit that lives on ricecakes? :lol:


Edit: missed the "s" again...time to get new batteries for this keyboard....

manker
01-21-2005, 10:49 PM
just missing an "s" :ermm: ..if vegetables were supposed to be eaten they would be made out of meat ;)

Either way i can outrun any vegetable, and just how hard could someone hit that lives on ricecakes? :lol:Ok I'll let you off. If you'd been having a pop at the venerable vegetarians among us, I'd have ... posted all in caps, or something :D

Guillaume
01-21-2005, 11:37 PM
mmmm... The only way I know of eating healthy and ethically is to eat vegetarians! :01:

Beware vegans! I'm coming to get you!



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vidcc
01-22-2005, 12:55 AM
Ok I'll let you off. If you'd been having a pop at the venerable vegetarians among us, I'd have ... posted all in caps, or something :D

so all you are saying is.............Give chich a chance :unsure:

cpt_azad
01-24-2005, 09:12 AM
Nope :) not because it's "unethical", but because I find the taste to be somewhat "offending" if you will (tastes like crap).

Harsh!
01-24-2005, 09:56 AM
Nope...No way, No how
Vegeterian HARD

Voetsek
01-24-2005, 10:16 AM
No never ever

muchspl2
01-24-2005, 10:41 AM
meat is meat to me ~shrug~

http://sp24-7.lambtron.com/grabs/605/veal12.jpg

S!X
02-03-2005, 08:01 PM
I eat baby cows. :eat: