Copy Protection

[Peerzy]

Anyone know of a way i can copy protect my dvd's and cd's? i give out hundreds of cd's and dvd's each year for free to friends and family containing cracked and pirated files only to find them copying and selling them. Now im talking amazing SafeDisc 3.3 type protection i just need something basic that will like not let people copy the files to the hard drive. They are just standard install files and a keygen nothing more.

I found EXEShield (http://www.exeshield.com/) but i can't find a crack or anything. Like i said just needs to be basic protection that maybe encripts files or makes them un-copyable through Windows Explorer, my friends would just explore the cd and copy to hard drive then copy to cd so nothing hard and super safe is needed.

Thanks.

[darkmatter]

http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_protect_cd.shtml

havnt tried it my self

[RealitY]

I would think if they cant copy them they cant use them either so that may be tricky...

[vivitron 15]

especially if its apps in (say) rar form - all that they do to read it is to copy the stuff to RAM/CPU etc.

Your best bet is to fuck them and just dont give em any more cds - just to your proper mates who wouldnt do it to you

[darkmatter]

or make like a billion decoys or something

[harrycary]

You fucking loser.

How dare you complain of others copying your stolen data?

containing cracked and pirated files only to find them copying and selling them
Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

Fucking hypocrite.

[jonathan_tijuana]

I think that what he is worried about is that they are making money out of something they did not make.

[iMartin]

lol...this is the biggest load of hypocrit bs I've seen in a while :lol:

[peat moss]

I think that what he is worried about is that they are making money out of something they did not make.


Kinda what Harry ment I guess . But no I would n't like it , some one selling what you get for free.

[Adster]

wouldn't worry me if I pirated somthing and cracked it guess what??? i don't own the god dam software and games

I pirated anyway why should I care I didn't create the software i don't have the right to say you can't copy and seel the work I pirated.

[Virtualbody1234]

Wow!

How can you compare your effort when you pirate software to the efforts of the software designers. If it upsets you so much that someone is taking advantage of your small effort then you shouldn't pirate. :chris:

[peat moss]

Why is it always a question of morals or ethics , when some post a thread here ? :unsure: Its file shar........... I' mean its stealing , plain and simple . Get over it. And I'm guilty ' so either shut me down or fuck off. :P

And while I'm on a rant , what about all you Linux, unex , redhat, open source what every the flavour is fuck's . When was the last time you donated to open source develpers ?

Heres your chance ............

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513-5559647.html

[tesco]

now you now how microsoft feels. :P
If big companies liek taht can't do it I doubt you will figure out a way...

[Snee]

I kinda' think peerzy has the right to be angry about it.

It's the principle of the thing really, someone who sells pirated stuff screws it up for the rest of us, they give the industry something to point at and say "look, they are making money off our work".

Since he was giving the discs away for free, I don't think he wants to copy-protect anything 'cos he feels as if they were stealing from him.

The aren't sharing any more, they are being assholes.


EDit: so shut with the hypocrite comments, harrycary and the rest of you.

[fkdup74]

The aren't sharing any more, they are being assholes.

have to agree with snny there
if ppl didnt turn around a sell shit p2p might not as big of a target to industries
i would think they would be more pissed about someone making money
that wouldve went into their pockets
as opposed to someone making a backup of their shit

and peerzy....anything that can be programmed can be hacked/emulated just about
only way to stop em is just dont give em any more
just think if one of those assholes gets caught selling pirated shit...
"OH NOES IT WASNT ME IT WAS PEERZY-DUDE!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!!"
"HE GAVED EM TO MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111OMG!!!!!!!!11111"

rule of the day......CYOA ;)

[manker]

I can't understand why Peerzy's took so much shit in this thread, I'd be pissed if it was me.

What Peerzy's done is filesharing via a different method, instead of someone he doesn't know uploading off his machine, he's physically given them the data on a CD -- it's still filesharing. It's what every one of us does, and I'd like to think that each one of us would be concerned about the twats who sell pirated stuff.

He isn't being hypocritical in the slightest and I'd feel exactly the same if the people I burn movies for - cuz they're idiots who can't figure out nero - started selling them.

SnnY and FKDUP got it dead on.

[fkdup74]

And while I'm on a rant , what about all you Linux, unex , redhat, open source what every the flavour is fuck's . When was the last time you donated to open source develpers ?

Heres your chance ............

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513-5559647.html

HEY! if i could program i would......so hush :P
/me doesnt have money to give, but would gladly share my creations :)

:ohmy: OH NOES! quote from that atricle:

"We have to be concerned about...the use of patent WMDs. That will be the last stand of Microsoft," Kapor said.
they have WMDs!!!!!!!!!!1111111 :ohmy: :lol:
GWbush will end up shuttin em down! :01: :P

[Snee]

I paid for SuSe :01:

I've been thinking, tho', that I might help and translate a few things when I have the time, 'cos it's a good cause.

[Peerzy]

There are to many people to quote so im just not gonna bother, thanks Manker, SnnY and fkdup74 for seeing my point.

The people i give these cd's to are computer retards otherwise i would teach them Bittorent. I don't need strong copy protection at all. Companys like MS protect there products from crackers i just need to protect it from someone going into Nero and clicking copy disc.

@People who flames/whatever'd the thread - your saying im hypocritical for sharing files and trying to make sure people don't profit off of them. So basically you want me and my mates to go out and start flogging stuff in the high street thats cracked. Meaning companies will lose more money, piracy will become a bigger threat to them, more media attention and in the long run more chance of much harder and stronger crack downs on piracy, bittorent and other p2p methods. Ofcourse thats only if i sold £1000's a week but still its all the same.

Wow!


How can you compare your effort when you pirate software to the efforts of the software designers. If it upsets you so much that someone is taking advantage of your small effort then you shouldn't pirate.

You got me totally wrong! It upsets me that discs i give for people who i know to use cracked software pass them on to sellers/sell themselfs and make money out of cracking groups.


You fucking loser.

How dare you complain of others copying your stolen data?


containing cracked and pirated files only to find them copying and selling them

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

Fucking hypocrite.

Your right, how dare i be annoyed at other people selling stuff that release groups spent hours on only to release free to the world. I am the scum of the universe. Shut the fuck up unless you know what im talking about. People selling warez is what gives the download scene a bad name.

[Adster]

BTW people are missing the point here file sharing is about use people not having to spend money. not about stopping the author/artist/creator from making profit. I think we can all agree they still make stacks of profit.

as I said in my other post which I wrote when drunk apologies it doesn't make since. what I ment to say was I couldn't care less if i gave copies to friends and they copied them for free...... however if they sold them thats another story
it is just wrong too make money out of something thats not yours.

its not hypocritical its 2 different issue peerzy gets software for free )hes a sinner like you and I hehehe) and the other is making profit for something thats not yours peerzy makes no money from pirating he saves it.

what I do is I don't give the friends family whatever the disks I go to their dam house and install it myself and take the disk back home and say thats it if you wanna buy the real thing you get it!!!..

Maybe thats an idea peerzy I dunno I'm sure if there was such a thing as protection it would surely have been thought of and stopped us pirates

[Peerzy]

BTW people are missing the point here file sharing is about use people not having to spend money. not about stopping the author/artist/creator from making profit. I think we can all agree they still make stacks of profit.

as I said in my other post which I wrote when drunk apologies it doesn't make since. what I ment to say was I couldn't care less if i gave copies to friends and they copied them for free...... however if they sold them thats another story
it is just wrong too make money out of something thats not yours.

its not hypocritical its 2 different issue peerzy gets software for free )hes a sinner like you and I hehehe) and the other is making profit for something thats not yours peerzy makes no money from pirating he saves it.

what I do is I don't give the friends family whatever the disks I go to their dam house and install it myself and take the disk back home and say thats it if you wanna buy the real thing you get it!!!..

Maybe thats an idea peerzy I dunno I'm sure if there was such a thing as protection it would surely have been thought of and stopped us pirates


I give the disc to them as its just easier than going round 20 houses each month and getting myself mixed up in fixing other peoples computer problems. I have no problem giving discs away but i prefer people not to copy them and give them away or sell them. The reason i have a problem with other people copying them and giving them away is i don't know what hands there getting into, and i certainly don't want it to fall into the wrong hands, be it a cop or be it a bootlegger who sells the cd's on. I give the stuff i get for free away for free to people i trust who will keep it free and will keep it to themselfs. Heck if someone wants a copy they come to me and ask me for it, i'll decide if i think i can trust them with the scene's work. Also alot of my applications i create customer boot menus and other nice little things that i put my time into ( i recently spent ages putting together an ultimate apps cd with menus for example) i have no problem someone enjoying this menu and warez for free, once someone sells the dvd for more than 50p or a cd for more than 50p then there making un-needed profit off of mine and mostly other scene work, thats never on.

Anyway i think this topics gone off the rails abit to much so if people could go back to helping me that would be great, otherwise i'll ask for someone to close this and i'll ask somewhere else.

[Virtualbody1234]

Once you give something to someone, what they do with it is their choice and responsability. What you are saying is that you give something and there are strings attached. That's not giving. I'm willing to bet that when you give something to someone they give something back. Maybe not money but services, a meal, a few beers or maybe just their time etc. Otherwise you wouldn't do it.

[Peerzy]

Once you give something to someone, what they do with it is their choice and responsability. What you are saying is that you give something and there are strings attached. That's not giving. I'm willing to bet that when you give something to someone they give something back. Maybe not money but services, a meal, a few beers etc. Otherwise you wouldn't do it.


Usually they give me a disc. That is all, money/beers/whatever else is kept on a different tab. If im in the pub i say you owe me that £5 from last night i don't say you owe me i gave you Windows.

Now back on topic, please.

[Virtualbody1234]

Hmmm...

[harrycary]

Shut the fuck up unless you know what im talking about.
I know, and understand, exactly what you're talking about.

If you're are so worried about people selling the pirated software you give them, than simply stop giving it to them.

I share software, video, and audio files with friends, family and strangers [online]. If I felt they were profiting from my efforts that's what I would do.

I still think you're a hyprocrite for approaching your dilemma in the way that you've posted. And frankly, I feel you deserve the flames you've been receiving. I suspect you're bootlegging more to "show off" then for the sake of sharing and personal use.

Sadly, I don't believe you'll take my suggestion & criticism to heart and I expect some sort of lame response[as you've already demonstrated].

regards,

[Mïcrösöül°V³]

well, i share alot, so you people owe me a lot of cheap beer damnit! Plus the fact that I grace you all with my presence is enough to warrant a dinner also. I want my baby back baby back baby back :P

I agree that he is just trying to stop his moocher freinds from selling shit that they got free. I bet if they got caught, they wouldnt hesitate to point the finger. Me, i wouldnt give them shit anymore. Tell them to get broadband and figure it out themselves. :)

[Peerzy]

I know, and understand, exactly what you're talking about.

If you're are so worried about people selling the pirated software you give them, than simply stop giving it to them.

I share software, video, and audio files with friends, family and strangers [online]. If I felt they were profiting from my efforts that's what I would do.

I still think you're a hyprocrite for approaching your dilemma in the way that you've posted. And frankly, I feel you deserve the flames you've been receiving. I suspect you're bootlegging more to "show off" then for the sake of sharing and personal use.

Sadly, I don't believe you'll take my suggestion & criticism to heart and I expect some sort of lame response[as you've already demonstrated].

regards,


You couldn't be more wrong. If you are saying that you wouldn't give warez to people who would go on and sell it then you need to stop filesharing! As hundreds of people yo upload files to will go home and sell them, making profit off of your upload, the skills of cracked from release groups and many other sources.

Why would i bother to learn how to download, get into it so much, learn so much about the scene and how it works and get into the scene if it was just to go home and say: how cool i am, look guys i download i took 10 minutes out of my life to read a faq bow down to meand blow me. Please, don't fucking try to insult me, the reason i pirate is the same reason i should hope most people pirate here, getting the stuff free, iv got a copy of Windows Home (OEM and came with a store brought PC) BUt My Copr dvd with all the extra features is much better, im not gonna fork out £150 just so i can get a few extra things.

If you think im a hyprocrite then you have just proved that you are also one, you say that if theres the slightest chance people would sell your warez you wouldnt give it to them. I think you should either shut your fucking mouth, or put your money where your mouth is and uninstall Bittorent, FlashFXP, Kazaa, Emule, IE could download warez so lets chuck that piece of shit as well, heck might as well get rid of that pirated Windows your more than likley running and the dodgy copy of your favourite anti virus and firewall, go on burn the discs.

Now everyone stay on topic or don't bother posting.

[Mïcrösöül°V³]

Now everyone stay on topic or don't bother posting.
yea :01: let the ass whippin's commence!

[Virtualbody1234]

You couldn't be more wrong. If you are saying that you wouldn't give warez to people who would go on and sell it then you need to stop filesharing! As hundreds of people yo upload files to will go home and sell them, making profit off of your upload, the skills of cracked from release groups and many other sources.

Why would i bother to learn how to download, get into it so much, learn so much about the scene and how it works and get into the scene if it was just to go home and say: how cool i am, look guys i download i took 10 minutes out of my life to read a faq bow down to meand blow me. Please, don't fucking try to insult me, the reason i pirate is the same reason i should hope most people pirate here, getting the stuff free, iv got a copy of Windows Home (OEM and came with a store brought PC) BUt My Copr dvd with all the extra features is much better, im not gonna fork out £150 just so i can get a few extra things.

If you think im a hyprocrite then you have just proved that you are also one, you say that if theres the slightest chance people would sell your warez you wouldnt give it to them. I think you should either shut your fucking mouth, or put your money where your mouth is and uninstall Bittorent, FlashFXP, Kazaa, Emule, IE could download warez so lets chuck that piece of shit as well, heck might as well get rid of that pirated Windows your more than likley running and the dodgy copy of your favourite anti virus and firewall, go on burn the discs.

Now everyone stay on topic or don't bother posting.
Following your logic, you should put copy protection on files you share online. You wouldn't want someone to sell copies would you?

[Adster]

ohh yeah just imagine how much I owe nikki this past month form downloading off her

oops off topic sorry :(

[peat moss]

ohh yeah just imagine how much I owe nikki this past month form downloading off her

oops off topic sorry :(


@Peerzy, some how me thinks you would not have a problem with us going off topic. ;)

[fkdup74]

hey WTF? :huh:
i coulda swore i just posted someting like....
:w00t: FREE BEER FOR FILESHARING!!!! :w00t:
and now its gone...
so...mods have gone itchy with the "delete post" button :dry: , or....
or my "post" button is broke
hmmmm......

[peat moss]

hey WTF? :huh:
i coulda swore i just posted someting like....
:w00t: FREE BEER FOR FILESHARING!!!! :w00t:
and now its gone...
so...mods have gone itchy with the "delete post" button :dry: , or....
or my "post" button is broke
hmmmm......


No I went to quote you , to say you owe me a six pack for the key I sent you . :lol:

Ah FUk send to the lounge then! :whistling

[Adster]

hey WTF? :huh:
i coulda swore i just posted someting like....
:w00t: FREE BEER FOR FILESHARING!!!! :w00t:
and now its gone...
so...mods have gone itchy with the "delete post" button :dry: , or....
or my "post" button is broke
hmmmm......

give teh mods time ffs there in another section deleting off topic posts about gay porn

[peat moss]

give teh mods time ffs there in another section deleting off topic posts about gay porn



Not Sponge Bob again ! :dry:

[fkdup74]

No I went to quote you , to say you owe me a six pack for the key I sent you . :lol:

Ah FUk send to the lounge then! :whistling

doh! :ohmy:
ummm....hows about a 5 pack? had to drink one, sorry :blushing:

:lol:

[Adster]

a 5 pack a 69 pack even better !

[peat moss]

doh! :ohmy:
ummm....hows about a 5 pack? had to drink one, sorry :blushing:

:lol:


Ah shit american beer make it a 18 pack ! :P

[fkdup74]

a 5 pack a 69 pack even better !

KEGGER!!!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!


Ah shit american beer make it a 18 pack !

ummm, you may only end up with a 12 pack out of that order...
harder work carrying that much, have to consume more liquids
and the longe is a loooong walk, have to stop n refresh along the way :lol:

[Adster]

or if you come to Australia how about a midi or a schooner??

[Ariel_001]

You want to “copy protect” software that you pirated yourself? That still does not make any sense whatsoever. If your so worried about pirated software then you should really stop giving out pirated stuff.

Beside I don’t think you can anyways. "Real" "copy protection" I beleve has to be stamped.

[harrycary]

tehee....yawn, you really show your age.

bye bye now

[Peerzy]

Well thanks for the help i got from a few of you and no thanks to those who spammed, argued and pushed the topic right offtrack. Iv requested it be closed and i'll just ask else where from now on, to be honest who cares why i want to copy protect software, i shouldnt't have gone into detials really. Shame really how a thread just looking for help can be fucked up by just a few who want to make their voices heard over and over and over and ov.... I don't give a shit about what you think, think what you want just keep it out of my thread.

[manker]

Following your logic, you should put copy protection on files you share online. You wouldn't want someone to sell copies would you?I can't believe you even mentioned logic.

It's impossible to tell from an IP number in a torrent swarm who is going to sell your files. It is impossible to copy-protect your files that you're about to share from your PC lest the recipiant won't be able to burn it.

It is possible for Peerzy to copy protect the CDs he shares via this alternative filesharing method (tho' I don't know how), therefore he wants to do it - so as not to perpetuate the filesharing for profit situation.

That's logic.

What you wrote proves you didn't understand what Peerzy wanted to do -- what you suggest is like saying $10 won't house all the homeless people therefore I won't donate it to a tsunami charity. However, we all know that if everyone did then it would house them.

Peerzy is making an honourable stand, I hadn't thought about it before but if EVERYONE did what he wants to do then there would be less pirating for profit. I'd do it too if I knew how.

The folk who are attacking this don't understand the simple dynamics of the situation, that's all there is to it.

[Snee]

I know, and understand, exactly what you're talking about.

If you're are so worried about people selling the pirated software you give them, than simply stop giving it to them.

I share software, video, and audio files with friends, family and strangers [online]. If I felt they were profiting from my efforts that's what I would do.

I still think you're a hyprocrite for approaching your dilemma in the way that you've posted. And frankly, I feel you deserve the flames you've been receiving. I suspect you're bootlegging more to "show off" then for the sake of sharing and personal use.

Sadly, I don't believe you'll take my suggestion & criticism to heart and I expect some sort of lame response[as you've already demonstrated].

regards,

The only one that was really flaming was you, unless you call the quote below a "suggestion" or perhaps some good-natured "criticism".


You fucking loser.

How dare you complain of others copying your stolen data?


*snip*

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

Fucking hypocrite.


If anyone here was showing their age in this thread it's you, and what is your age? twelve?


If peerzy wants to share something with one person, but can't be sure that they won't spread it along further and charging people for it in the process, then he should make sure they can't.

Me, I would probably not share it with them, but there are a lot of factors that can contribute to peerzy feeling compelled to give the software to them.

He can't really share it with most members of his family, or his friends but leave a couple of them outside 'cos he suspects they are going to try and get a profit out of the discs. They'd just say he was being unfair or something.

Better then to make sure that only those he wants to have the software gets it.



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Btw@peerzy: I've done some digging, and I found that Ulead's dvd workshop can add copy protection.

Not sure if that's for data dvds or just ones with movies.

Am looking some more, have just gotten this linkely link (http://zakmccrack.cjb.net/), not sure what that software actually does tho'.

Have a look at this board too, they might be able to help. (http://club.cdfreaks.com/search.php?searchid=771238&pp=25&page=2)

And someone somewhere posted that the daemontoolz board might be another place to look at.

[muchspl2]

cool thread I can see both sides and I'm unsure on how I feel, on one hand it shouldn't be protected but on the other I don't want people profiting off me..
weird I guess the best way is to cut off the people that sell your cds, if you know they are selling then cut them off

[peat moss]

There are a few tools here aswell . Middle of page . :)


http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_protect_cd.shtml

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