SixSteam: Did you know?

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Warning! SixSteam is Stealing Account information (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=244377&highlight=sixsteam)

Just FYI.

[SingaBoiy]

Sounds like they are just trying to get people to stop using it (the ones that still can).

[TheDave]

i reckon it is stealing information. how else would they just let you in?

[SingaBoiy]

What info would it be stealing? Just your email and maybe IP. And the pass for the account you make on it.

[TheDave]

serials and your right to play any games that need steam verification

[cpt_azad]

deleted off my comp.

[SingaBoiy]

serials and your right to play any games that need steam verification
If you are using SiX, y would you use a real serial? :blink:

[cpt_azad]

well how does six steam work then? i've been meaning to ask that question for a while but i always forget.

[S!X]

This looks interesting....

[Monkeee]

wait NO!! six-steam is so good to me..

wait is all they steal is just your account name and password? cause i got 6 :shifty:

[S!X]

wait NO!! six-steam is so good to me..

wait is all they steal is just your account name and password? cause i got 6 :shifty:

lol six steam has been good to me also ;)

[cpt_azad]

well i got rid of it just incase, but since i bought hl2 i dont really care, i only used six steam to get cs 1.6, condition zero, and opposing force.

[asmithz]

well i got rid of it just incase, but since i bought hl2 i dont really care, i only used six steam to get cs 1.6, condition zero, and opposing force.

And what about HL DM?

Six-Steam dosent still info, dont know where anyone one would get that idea. Its stupid, it only connects to steam.

[TheDave]

how can it connect without info?

[asmithz]

how can it connect without info?

Cause they hacked it, wouldnt if it were sending info back to the six stream people, wouldnt my firewall tell me? It would and it dosent.

[TheDave]

it'd use normal http protocol or whatever steam uses.

they would have to hack the steam servers to make it work. anonymous clients dont work because you need a log in to connect to steam.

[namzuf9]

You'd have to be pretty stupid to use a hacked program with your real account (ie the one with your serials registered against it) I would be worried if it runs as a background process when its not in use, its possible it may be some sort of keylogger? but it looks like that link to steams forums is just valve anti hacker propaganda to me.

Does anyone know where I can get this? I've already got HL2/CS:S with a legit key (Morrisons supermarkets in the UK tend to use the original boxes for games with the serial no. stickers still in 'em :shifty: ) But I'd like some of the older games. PM me if you can help :)

[Formula1]

That link to steam's forum, seems like a lie from Valve and trying to get people not to use Six-steam....

bTW , yesterday immediately notcied that account i always used with six steam started to get the "steam ticket expired" error :huh: . Then i used six steam with an account registered to cs 1.6 (used valid cd key) and the i was able to play CSS online.... wtf .....

[Peerzy]

That link to steam's forum, seems like a lie from Valve and trying to get people not to use Six-steam....

bTW , yesterday immediately notcied that account i always used with six steam started to get the "steam ticket expired" error :huh: . Then i used six steam with an account registered to cs 1.6 (used valid cd key) and the i was able to play CSS online.... wtf .....


Valve upped secruity on servers, if your account has no cd key attached to it (SiX Steam account) it will not work, if it has a cd key (any game) then you get past the secruity no matter what steam client you use (Standard, SiX Steam, Steam-Down and so on)

[Formula1]

Cool, I thanks for your reply Peerzy :D. I can play CSS with my Half life counter strike cd key account :D

[Peerzy]

Yuppers, i use a HL2 Bronze key along with a crack program (not SiX Steam or Steam-Down) to play all the games. I also have a HL1 cd key spare.

[orcutt989]

Yes that doesn't make anysense. Why would you use six-steam for legit reasons? What would it steal from you?

[Peerzy]

Yes that doesn't make anysense. Why would you use six-steam for legit reasons?

Say i have bronze cd key, but i want to play Half Life: Source (which only comes with Silver & Gold) so i use a cracking program to play the extra games that my key on the normal steam client won't let me play.

[orcutt989]

Say i have bronze cd key, but i want to play Half Life: Source (which only comes with Silver & Gold) so i use a cracking program to play the extra games that my key on the normal steam client won't let me play.

Makes sense.

[Formula1]

Does emporio css still work ? :P

[Peerzy]

Does emporio css still work ? :P


Doubtfull, i havnt seen an update for a while and steam ad the game have both been updated. I think groups have stopped bothering because there are programs that work better (not SiX-Steam or Steam-Down).

[{I}{K}{E}]

Steam Loader :cool:




Next Thursday CS:S will get a new map :cool: cs_compound

Screenshots:
http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/Jan26.2005/img/cs_compound_ingame.jpg
http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/Jan26.2005/img/cs_compound_flyby.jpg

[Formula1]

hey IKE do you know where i can get steam loader ?

[{I}{K}{E}]

hey IKE do you know where i can get steam loader ?

no..

10. Posting of direct download links to copyrighted material such as private ftp sites, serial numbers, warez sites and torrentlinks are prohibited. Posts directly or indirectly containing this information will be edited. Sig2dat quicklinks and hashes are NOT considered to be downloadable and will be allowed. Don't ask for cracks, serials or keygens to be posted, you are asking someone else to break this rule.

[Smith]

steam loader dosnt work 4 me ike, i did what it said to do and it still dosnt work :(

[Formula1]

no..

10. Posting of direct download links to copyrighted material such as private ftp sites, serial numbers, warez sites and torrentlinks are prohibited. Posts directly or indirectly containing this information will be edited. Sig2dat quicklinks and hashes are NOT considered to be downloadable and will be allowed. Don't ask for cracks, serials or keygens to be posted, you are asking someone else to break this rule.

can you atleast pm it to me...

[Peerzy]

steam loader dosnt work 4 me ike, i did what it said to do and it still dosnt work :(


Wow thanks for all the infomation thats really gonna help us fix your problem. You've basically said this:


My computer doesnt work, help?

How does it not work?
What did you do?
What are your computer specs?
Do you get any error messages?
Pictures of any error messages?
Does any loading screen appear?
Where does to program crash?
Does it crash, not load or freeze?

[Peerzy]

can you atleast pm it to me...



10. Posting of direct download links to copyrighted material such as private ftp sites, serial numbers, warez sites and torrentlinks are prohibited. Posts directly or indirectly containing this information will be edited. Sig2dat quicklinks and hashes are NOT considered to be downloadable and will be allowed.Don't ask for cracks, serials or keygens to be posted, you are asking someone else to break this rule.

Just wondering if you can read or not :unsure:

[Formula1]

Well , tons of people ask for craks/serials/torrents , and they get it through pm...

If i can't read, then how can i write :P

[Peerzy]

Well , tons of people ask for craks/serials/torrents , and they get it through pm...

If i can't read, then how can i write :P


Tons of people do but they shouldn't. Tons of people are terrorists, spose you can be one as well now :rolleyes:



If i can't read, then how can i write :P

Well, you are American :whistling

[Smith]

Ive installed it properly, but for some reason when i try to login i get that tickets error :(

What do you want me to tell u?

[asmithz]

we cant tell you how to crack the program, its against rule #10 ;)

[Peerzy]

Hmmmm well i can't help you but mine is still working. Although i have a legit key attached. I saw steam update earlier today so maybe thats messed it up. Try creating a new account, like brand new one you havnt used with SiX Steam.

[asmithz]

Hmmmm well i can't help you but mine is still working. Although i have a legit key attached. I saw steam update earlier today so maybe thats messed it up. Try creating a new account, like brand new one you havnt used with SiX Steam.

Yep, steam loader plus six-stream make it work :shifty:

[SingaBoiy]

can you atleast pm it to me...


10. Posting of direct download links to copyrighted material such as private ftp sites, serial numbers, warez sites and torrentlinks are prohibited. Posts directly or indirectly containing this information will be edited. Sig2dat quicklinks and hashes are NOT considered to be downloadable and will be allowed.Don't ask for cracks, serials or keygens to be posted, you are asking someone else to break this rule.

Dont see how his comment breaks rule ten.

Explain it to me cause I am an illiterate American :dry:

[S!X]

Dont see how his comment breaks rule ten.

Explain it to me cause I am an illiterate American :dry:

lol for me my ticket error's gone im shure its gonna catch up with me sometime soon, even tho i dont want to im probbly gonna buy the game, its more addicitng then cigs :smoke:

[Formula1]

so you''re no more getting the steam ticket error, and you can play with six steam? :P

[S!X]

so you''re no more getting the steam ticket error, and you can play with six steam? :P

yep :D

[Peerzy]

Dont see how his comment breaks rule ten.

Explain it to me cause I am an illiterate American :dry:


Hey hey don't be like that, its not your fault (points at highlighted quote :P )


He's requesting a cracking program, it makes no difference if he's requesting it through pm or on the forum, its still requesting a member to give him links to download illigal cracking tools.

[Formula1]

yep :D

OK, that's good to hear

[{I}{K}{E}]

DAMN !!!!!!!! :angry:

just popped up:

steam ticket error

I was able to play for month's :(

did they find a way to block steam_loader?

six steam still working ?

:angry: :angry:

[Peerzy]

DAMN !!!!!!!! :angry:

just popped up:

steam ticket error

I was able to play for month's :(

did they find a way to block steam_loader?

six steam still working ?

:angry: :angry:


Iv got a cd key so it doesnt matter, iv also got a HL1 cd key so if i ever needed a second account or someone else really wanted to play i could do a deal with them :shifty:

[silent h3ro]

its more addicitng then cigs :smoke: Lol very true. :01:

[wickedman]

Six-steam uses STEAM/VALVE servers, now you can only connect to CRACKED servers if you do not have one serial code for one of STEAM/VALVE games if you do you can connect to normal servers and no, six-steam does not try to steal your username/pass of an account you have whats got a acctual real STEAM/VALVE game/serial its just something VALVE wanted to post to scare users who use it so no one uses the program. :P


Im sorry for the kinda bad spelling.

[asmithz]

Six-steam uses STEAM/VALVE servers, now you can only connect to CRACKED servers if you do not have one serial code for one of STEAM/VALVE games if you do you can connect to normal servers and no, six-steam does not try to steal your username/pass of an account you have whats got a acctual real STEAM/VALVE game/serial its just something VALVE wanted to post to scare users who use it so no one uses the program. :P


Im sorry for the kinda bad spelling.

Then every server i went to was carcked :P

[S!X]

Then every server i went to was carcked :P

LoL same
:rolleyes:

[Monkeee]

ey damn what happened to steam, my six-steam dont work!!

[asmithz]

ey damn what happened to steam, my six-steam dont work!!
Yep mine stop working cuase i had to reformat :( I'll figure out another way.

[Monkeee]

i mean, like it completly doesn't work, i cant play half life 2, or cs source. its not on my list anymore!! CRAP!!!

[asmithz]

i mean, like it completly doesn't work, i cant play half life 2, or cs source. its not on my list anymore!! CRAP!!!

Yeah same here, i think they updated again, cuasei uninstalled it all. Reinstalled sixsteam, and nothing there.

[S!X]

FUCK just when mine was working (six steam) it now doesent work it bareley even starts up and all my game under the "My Games" list are fuckin gone, for fuck sakes these mother fuckers.

[Monkeee]

thoes basturds..

[S!X]

thoes basturds..

fuck ya :mad3: i was hoping i could get some killing in before i fall asleep cuz im tired as feck it keeps me awake ...... :dry: :angry: :frusty:

[Monkeee]

i dont have 60$.... >_< o gawd someone buy me the silver account!!!

[S!X]

i dont have 60$.... >_< o gawd someone buy me the silver account!!!

lol ive got 60 :D but im not gonna go out and buy it yet... im gonna see how it all plays out, im pretty shure im not gonna be able to play with six after this update... but we'll see.

[Formula1]

Same problem is happenning to me :( . Steam automatically updates its platform today :(. And all the the games in 'my games' list are gone excpet cs 1.6 ( i ahve a legit cd key with this ) :( . Hope someone finds a program to to exploit the updated steam :( . Anyone here who uses steam loader or steam down, are these programs still working for you guys... ?

[S!X]

Anyone here who uses steam loader or steam down, are these programs still working for you guys... ?

Nope. :no:

[Monkeee]

lol ive got 60 :D but im not gonna go out and buy it yet... im gonna see how it all plays out, im pretty shure im not gonna be able to play with six after this update... but we'll see.

lol haha you cant buy half life 2 silver in a retail store :P

[S!X]

lol haha you cant buy half life 2 silver in a retail store :P

i know im just gonna buy hl2 tomorrow.

[Monkeee]

that sucks.. 10$ more you get a shitload of games more

[S!X]

that sucks.. 10$ more you get a shitload of games more

meh all i want is cs.... fuck hl2 and all that other bs.

[Monkeee]

lol all that other bs, are one of the top games ever created

[S!X]

lol all that other bs, are one of the top games ever created

Shut up fewl, i only want cs comprende? :frusty:

[Monkeee]

when did i say you didn't? i'm just saying thoes were one of the best games ever created and probally wouldn't have put valve where they are today.

[S!X]

when did i say you didn't? i'm just saying thoes were one of the best games ever created and probally wouldn't have put valve where they are today.

yea yea :rolleyes: the facial expressions and what not are very realistic which is good but game gets boring very fast. :no:

[Formula1]

Im gonna try to see if css will play with steam down....

[S!X]

Im gonna try to see if css will play with steam down....

o ya, im redownloading with six steam... i doubt its gonna work.

[{I}{K}{E}]

o ya, im redownloading with six steam... i doubt its gonna work.

it won't :(




I noticed many people screaming the biggest non-sense about how steam works and how the ticket is is caused or prevented.

It seems its a good idea to finally explain how exactly steam works.
All current solutions are using my emulator anyways, yes, even Emporio uses the 2.63 emulator. They just ripped the DLL and patched it to work without the .ini file, even the linux .so was copied.
So there's no need to fight over GCF / non-gcf methods as there is no difference.

Q: So what was changed client side during the last steam update which caused the ticket error?
A: Nothing, code-flow wise the client side is not doing anything different at all.

Q: Why do I suddenly get a ticket error then?
A: Tickets are now checked more thoroughly on the Valve authentication server, there is nothing you can do about that.

Q: So how does it work technically then?
A: The process is divided in a few steps


* The client requests an encrypted user ID ticket using SteamGetEncryptedUserIdTicket from steam.dll, this gives back a ticket which has been digitally signed and encrypted. The ticket contains information such as the client ip, expiration date etc.

Now, since the last update it would seem that the ticket is immediately expired if you do not have any registered games on your account.

* The ticket itself is game independant, so essentially a ticket requested for a Half-Life 1 game is valid to play with on Source games too.

* When a client logs on to a server, it sends the ticket to the server.
The server calls SteamOnlineTicketValidator() which forwards the ticket (unchanged) to the authentication server and then the server waits for the result.

* Since this validation is server-side it means you cannot do anything about it client-side.



Q: If tickets are game independant, why not just request a ticket from the valve authentication server for like Codename: Gordon, or Half-Life 2 demo?
A: All of the free games on the steam game list are blocked from requesting tickets since the last update.

Q: But I read about some people being able to play online just fine without ticket error? Does this have to do with their clientregistry.blob?
A: Yes, some people have corrupted tickets, which have expiration dates still in the future, somehow the validation still lets these through, i.e. it checks the expiration date first, and only if its nearly expired the rest of the ticket. This is why some people can play online.

Q: I read that someone did "trick X" and he said it worked, but it doesn't work for me?
A: The ticket validation process goes over UDP, which means its a non-reliable protocol. Now if the server you are trying does not get a reply from the valve authentication server in time, due to the authentication server being busy for example, or the server being in some distant location and unable to connect to the master server, then the server will let you on regardless of the ticket.
This is how most games work, otherwise no-one would be able to play if the valve authentication servers were down.
So if the authentication servers are down, everyone can play.

Q: Can this not be fixed by a new ppatcher?
A: No ppatcher can only change things clientside, and the ticket check as explained as totally server side.

Q: The trick I read a lot about, that mIRC trick, how does it work?
A: The clientregistry.blob contains dates about when a ticket was last updated, when server addresses and ports were last stored etc. Now the mirc patch changes these dates into the future constantly. Funnily enough, its not the date changing that causes this trick to work for some. Its actually the client being unable to access the clientregistry.blob because its clashing with mirc, this makes the chance of the server remote timeout happening slightly bigger. This might be expoitable temporarely by causing the client wait all the time instead of just when it clashes with mirc.

Q: So whats the only 100% working solution for now?
A: Cracked servers are the only 100% working solution, as a cracked server will not disconnect clients with invalid tickets, nor will it send them to the master server to check.
This means valve has no direct influence to do anything about it.

Q: What is the best thing to do now?
A: Well I have been reading Hellbosses idea, and its technically possible to extend the Steam emulator to emulate steam even more fully. This will mean that you can actually use the normal steam client on the emulator, and everything would work like normal. Though obviously you can only play on emulated/cracked servers then.

Q: Does the new ticket fix trick where you have to register with a HL2 key work?
A: Yes, as it obviously uses the same trick as using a valid HL1 key.
Steam will register you as having purchased the game, and thus you will receive a valid ticket. This will mean however your ip most likely pops up in red in the valve logs. And it is fixable on their side.

P.S. I hope this will clean up a lot of misunderstandings, and a myriad of posts.

However, if you do have a method which you have thoroughly tested, and want me to help and/or put it into more usable code, just let me know.

[S!X]

ah fuck, if it doesent work for me im gonna go out and buy that motherfuckin ho :dry: then ill broke as fuck :frusty:

[Peerzy]

Iv still got my spare HL1 cd key, with that SiX-Steam, Steam-Down and Steam-Loader would all work and play all the games (HL2, CSS, HL2DM, HL:S and so on)

[S!X]

Iv still got my spare HL1 cd key, with that SiX-Steam, Steam-Down and Steam-Loader would all work and play all the games (HL2, CSS, HL2DM, HL:S and so on)

Thats nice, im goin out to buy HL2 i a few. :dry: I cant take this anymore!!!!!!!! :angry:

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Update (sort of) about the SixSteam thing...

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=256743

[S!X]

Update (sort of) about the SixSteam thing...

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=256743

Yes theres 2 topics just posted about that. ;)

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Yes theres 2 topics just posted about that. ;)
Ahh... Hey, at least I bumped an existing one. ;)

[S!X]

Ahh... Hey, at least I bumped an existing one. ;)
:no:

[mmonsie]

/removed. read the board rules !

[SixTitch]

Our six-steam does not steal account information or give u any virus,


/edit: check the board rules!

[erRor67]

Hmm, even if Six-Steam stole account info, theres not much. Email and IP number. and since most people have a rotating IP, it doesnt matter. As for email, well, i use mailinator emails so dont matter for me. And personally, i use Steam-Down along with Non-Steam. ;)