Upgradeing My Proccessor Question.

[Wolfmight]

Would i need to reinstall Windows XP Pro O/S to get the hardware configured correctly.... or hook it up and boot with the currently installed copy? Will it automaticly detect and configure? I'm thinkin about addin an Althon XP (already got a 1.2ghz 384mb ram, Gefore video, etc all other hardware compatable)

[neevakee]

it should auto matically detect it. There might be a disk for the motherboard and processor which you would need at the first start up

[Somebody1234]

You won't have to reinstall windows at all. Make sure your BIOS revision supports the CPU you intend to install. You might consider it a good time to flash your BIOS before replacing the CPU.

[Wolfmight]

Is'nt the Bios on the motherboard?
I'm going to get an Anthlon XP Mobo+Proccessor deal. (completely compatable)
All I would do i unplug everything off my current mobo includeing the power supply from inside and also a few other wires. I have a current book explaining each part,function,etc on an amd mobo.

btw got n e suggestions about faster proccessors comeing out?
I'm looking for some good speed here


My mobo and proccessor stats right now:

< Processor(s) >
Model: AMD Athlon™ processor
Speed: 1.20GHz
Model Number: 1198 (estimated)
Performance Rating: PR1593 (estimated)
Type: Standard
L2 On-board Cache: 256kB ECC synchronous write-back

< System Mainboard >
Bus(es): ISA AGP PCI USB
MP Support: No
System BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG
System Mainboard: SiS-730
System Chipset: Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS730 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed: 2x 100MHz (200MHz data rate)
Installed Memory: 384MB SDRAM

[NotoriousBIC]

Wolfmight, before changing the mobo you must uninstall the IDE controller. If you don&#39;t then Windows won&#39;t startup&#33;

Do this by going to Computer Management -> Device Manager -> IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers.
Now choose &#39;update driver&#39; for the master IDE controller (in you&#39;re case probably SIS IDE Controller). Pick &#39;Generic IDE&#39; (or something like that).

Next shut down the compu and replace the mobo and other stuff. When finished keep you&#39;re fingers crossed and start it up again.

If everythings OK let Windows XP do it&#39;s magic (can take a while, because it will install all new drivers).

Good luck&#33;

btw: This won&#39;t be neccesary if you only replace the CPU

[Somebody1234]

Well this changes things... Why are you changing your motherboard?

[Wolfmight]

Ah, hmm maybe i should just go with a new CPU only.
Is it easy to swap em out? (like adding RAM?)
I never really understood how you change the *chip*.
Do i have to remove it with special tools etc..?

[Somebody1234]

At the top of the &#39;Hardwareworld&#39; there is a pinned topic called "Want To Build Your Own Computer? Links to online tutorial" posted by Lamsey. There is a lot of information there including a CPU Installation guide.


http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/2002091...8/diy_2-03.html (http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20020918/diy_2-03.html)

[ooo]

are there other guides that explain how to make your own com? i want more... i read that one and it looks easy but i might miss some stuff

[NotoriousBIC]

Best way to learn it imho is asking somebody with experience to help you do it.

It never hurts to read though&#33; PCMech&#39;s Build Your Own series (http://www.pcmech.com/build.htm)

just search google for &#39;build own computer&#39; or &#39;howto build pc&#39; etc.

[ooo]

http://www.anandtech.com/
http://www.tomshardware.com/

so these are nice sites to get info from computers and that pcmech

[Wolfmight]

Originally posted by Wolfmight@6 April 2003 - 02:29
Is&#39;nt the Bios on the motherboard?
I&#39;m going to get an Anthlon XP Mobo+Proccessor deal. (completely compatable)
All I would do i unplug everything off my current mobo includeing the power supply from inside and also a few other wires. I have a current book explaining each part,function,etc on an amd mobo.

btw got n e suggestions about faster proccessors comeing out?
I&#39;m looking for some good speed here


My mobo and proccessor stats right now:

< Processor(s) >
Model: AMD Athlon™ processor
Speed: 1.20GHz
Model Number: 1198 (estimated)
Performance Rating: PR1593 (estimated)
Type: Standard
L2 On-board Cache: 256kB ECC synchronous write-back

< System Mainboard >
Bus(es): ISA AGP PCI USB
MP Support: No
System BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG
System Mainboard: SiS-730
System Chipset: Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS730 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed: 2x 100MHz (200MHz data rate)
Installed Memory: 384MB SDRAM
Would I be able to install an Intel proccessor in my computer ok? I found a major deal on a 2.4ghz for only &#036;80.

[NotoriousBIC]

That&#39;s a no-go. At the moment you have an AMD Athlon compatible motherboard.
This is NOT compatible with Intel CPU&#39;s.

So you&#39;re either stuck to AMD Athlon CPU&#39;s or you have to by a new mobo/CPU/ram setup.

[Wolfmight]

ah thanks for letting me know.
Alot of people say AMD makes high end chips so i went with a 2400 2.0ghz (includein the faster fan) for &#036;100. Swell deal cause I saw the same 2400 model 2.0ghz amd cpu at bestbuy, frys, etc for like &#036;200-&#036;300&#33; :D

[Somebody1234]

Have you checked to be sure your board supports the new CPU you intend to get?

I&#39;m not sure but I looked around for information about your motherboard Chipset. I think it&#39;s limited to 200Mhz front side bus.

Not all boards support 266 front side bus. That means forget the Athlon XP if that is the case.

[Wolfmight]

I&#39;ll upgrade mobo too..

[Wolfmight]

Originally posted by Somebody1234@9 April 2003 - 17:26
Have you checked to be sure your board supports the new CPU you intend to get?

I&#39;m not sure but I looked around for information about your motherboard Chipset. I think it&#39;s limited to 200Mhz front side bus.

Not all boards support 266 front side bus. That means forget the Athlon XP if that is the case.
hmm would&#39;nt it just run at 200 then? I was useing SiSoft Sandra to get that info.. it might have got that from the proccessor and listed it under motherboard.

Here are the official websites for my motherboard:

SIS 730 Motherboard details (http://www.sis.com/products/chipsets/integrated/socketa/730sfea.htm)

Sis 730 motherboard description (http://www.sis.com/products/chipsets/integrated/socketa/730s.htm)

i dont see any front side bus speed limitations of 200mhz. (and they got alot of detials on it too..)

[ooo]

most ppl have intel 2.4 processors right now....

[Somebody1234]

Both those links you posted point to the same thing.

It points to a Sis730s chipset.
http://www.sis.com/products/chipsets/integrated/images/sis730s_s.gif

Is yours a Sis730 or Sis730s?

Anyway my understanding is that Sis makes chipsets not motherboards. I could be wrong but is it possible that your board is made by another company and it just uses the Sis chipset?

Can you look at the board itself and see if you can see a manufactures name and mother board model number?

[Wolfmight]

Originally posted by Somebody1234@10 April 2003 - 04:19
Both those links you posted point to the same thing.

It points to a Sis730s chipset.
http://www.sis.com/products/chipsets/integrated/images/sis730s_s.gif

Is yours a Sis730 or Sis730s?

Anyway my understanding is that Sis makes chipsets not motherboards. I could be wrong but is it possible that your board is made by another company and it just uses the Sis chipset?

Can you look at the board itself and see if you can see a manufactures name and mother board model number?
not sure, but SiSoft Sandra says:

< System Mainboard >
Bus(es): ISA AGP PCI USB
MP Support: No
System BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG
----&#62;>>>>>>>>>>>System Mainboard: SiS-730<<<<<<<<<<---
System Chipset: Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS730 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed: 2x 100MHz (200MHz data rate)
Installed Memory: 384MB SDRAM

[Somebody1234]

Can you open your case and look at the board itself and see if you can see a manufactures name and mother board model number?

[ooo]

Originally posted by Wolfmight@10 April 2003 - 04:43
< System Mainboard >
Bus(es): ISA AGP PCI USB
MP Support: No
System BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG
----&#62;>>>>>>>>>>>System Mainboard: SiS-730<<<<<<<<<<---
System Chipset: Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS730 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed: 2x 100MHz (200MHz data rate)
Installed Memory: 384MB SDRAM
umm chipset is Sis... there isnt a mother board thatz SIS

now wasnt this a processor upgrade thing?

how come it changed to chipset upgrade?

[Wolfmight]

never was a chipset upgrade

[ooo]

seemed like it in between :P lol;z

[Wolfmight]

hmm might end up being one also.. all I wanted to do was spend the least money as possible&#33; already got good hardwares like: Cd-rw, dvd, 80gbhd, 384 ram, etc etc.

[ooo]

lolz just buy a new motherboard n a processor less trouble

[Wolfmight]

man u reply so fast lol

[ooo]

yea hardwarez ma fav part to reply in lolz

[Wolfmight]

i see.. your name fills. After time I like to search for 0 posts questions and answer em. Help the people not being seen

[ooo]

u shoul do that :P lolz... i stay in discussion n lounge onli

[Somebody1234]

I find it amazing that I have asked you twice now if you could check that mother board to see what it is. Both times you ignore me. I am beginning to think that you just want to post questions to see if people will answer them without you really needing the help.

If you really want my help, answer my questions. You can&#39;t expect people to give you good advice if you don&#39;t work with them.
If you don&#39;t want help anymore with this, please tell us.

So what&#39;s it gonna be?

Open the case and tell us the motherboard maker and model.

[ooo]

Originally posted by Somebody1234@11 April 2003 - 02:30
I find it amazing that I have asked you twice now if you could check that mother board to see what it is. Both times you ignore me. I am beginning to think that you just want to post questions to see if people will answer them without you really needing the help.

If you really want my help, answer my questions. You can&#39;t expect people to give you good advice if you don&#39;t work with them.
If you don&#39;t want help anymore with this, please tell us.

So what&#39;s it gonna be?

Open the case and tell us the motherboard maker and model.
lol... i never even closed my case&#33;

not to include i got lazy and didnt put back my mothers case completely and her hard drive lolz now it makes a buzzing noise... shhhhh :P

heh... only one screw is on for hte case

mine is just totally off... but im gettin new com

estatimated arrival date: 4/15 -- 4:30pm :P

[Somebody1234]

Hey Soul814, this is not a chatroom. :angry:

I fail to see how your post helps with the hardware problem at hand.

[ooo]

lolz it rarely does :P

[Somebody1234]

Spammer&#33; :P

http://galleries.vinyamar.com/ps/show.php?id=vpDBdp12e5MvkHNADhVoojTrs&ext=.gif

:o <_<

[ooo]

Originally posted by Somebody1234@11 April 2003 - 03:16
Spammer&#33; :P
isnt that what you are doing right now... one word only... sigh* spammer back to you&#33;... datamore does spam products you should purchase some sometime :P

[Wolfmight]

hey it&#39;s allways cool to get a quick reply. This is a *message* board

[Somebody1234]

@Wolfmight, My time is too precious to waste it on guys like you. You don&#39;t answer my questions nor do you tell us you no longer want help with this CPU upgrade matter.

It is a minimum of courtesy to give feedback to the people of this forum since you were the one who requested our participation when you started this thread. We are just trying to help you but you really don&#39;t make it easy.

As I already said in a previous post:
If you don&#39;t want help anymore with this, please tell us.

This being said I am out of this thread.

[Wolfmight]

Originally posted by Somebody1234@13 April 2003 - 01:10
@Wolfmight, My time is too precious to waste it on guys like you. You don&#39;t answer my questions nor do you tell us you no longer want help with this CPU upgrade matter.

It is a minimum of courtesy to give feedback to the people of this forum since you were the one who requested our participation when you started this thread. We are just trying to help you but you really don&#39;t make it easy.

As I already said in a previous post:
If you don&#39;t want help anymore with this, please tell us.

This being said I am out of this thread.
Your a Flame Starter, I never said I had the question resolved yet.
still searchin as well

[Wolfmight]

Originally posted by Somebody1234@11 April 2003 - 03:16
Spammer&#33; :P

http://galleries.vinyamar.com/ps/show.php?id=vpDBdp12e5MvkHNADhVoojTrs&ext=.gif

:o <_<
u waste your time to insult someone.
Coldblooded...

[ooo]

naw nobody is cool :P..... i still respect "it" :P lolz..... i find it funny that "it" has alot of time to make a nice image for me :P.... heh actually if you sort it by last user post i got 2 - 3 pages :P lolz.... but then again itz always good to read someones post whether its good or not... well thatz my opinion.... a bad post is better then no post at all to me

[Wolfmight]

hm, Maybe i should contact Am-Comps.com, Sis.com, or the mobo manufacturer about the upgrade.. Hell I contact them all at the same time.

[Schmiggy_JK23]

soul... i definately think your "spam" is getting a bit out of hand. It seems half the time you dont care about the topic at hand. I have no problems with, as you can be helpfull, but I dont like reading the other half of your posts, that are totally irrelevant.

btw, staying on topic... (try it sometime soul... ;) )

here is the best mobo/processor combination out right now... the brand new P4, and the new canterwood motherboards...

The fastest motherboard/processor combo around (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act=ST&f=31&t=27496)

[Colt Seevers]

Originally posted by Soul814@13 April 2003 - 03:09
naw nobody is cool :P..... i still respect "it" :P lolz..... i find it funny that "it" has alot of time to make a nice image for me :P.... heh actually if you sort it by last user post i got 2 - 3 pages :P lolz.... but then again itz always good to read someones post whether its good or not... well thatz my opinion.... a bad post is better then no post at all to me
There will come a point when you will reassess (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=reassess&r=2) this opinion of yours.

We&#39;ve seen your (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?s=&act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=7639) type before around here.

:(

[Schmiggy_JK23]

gg colt, put these noobs in their place, someone needs to.

[Wolfmight]

I wish I had a time machine so I could go in the future and steal the fastest proccessor ever made (the one before they make a whole new type of computer that doesnt use CDs, DVDs, Moniter, whatever..)
Then come back in time and use it. (hehe also never tell n e 1 about it or the future might have a twice as fast chip.)

[Wolfmight]

Ah My motherboard is an ECS Elitegroup modle.
http://www.ecs.com.tw/
Please help me out, i&#39;m searchin this site and i also found a cpu support list for the althon xp that tells which motherboards support em. http://www.ecs.com.tw/support/techcpu/athlonxp.htm

Motherboard version: K7SEM
BIOS: v1.1 05/31/2001

[Wolfmight]

Bump&#33;

[Wolfmight]

I just updated my K7SEM BIOS to version 1.2b&#33; yay, everything went fine.
Now I got more support for althon xp cpus. still tryin to find if that also means the 2400

Here&#39;s the update page. (http://www.ecsusa.com/downloads/k7sem.html)
It says support for Althon XP 2100 and 2200.
Then it says More support for Althon XP (thus meaning 2300 and or 2400 right?)