How fast is 1.5 Mbps?

[Rip The Jacker]

I'm still on dial-up here, and I'm thinking about getting SBC's Yahoo DSL.

They're offering a package with "Up to 1.5 Mbps" for $19.95 a month for the first year. When downloading, how fast is 1.5Mbps exactly? Is that 150Kb/sec max? :unsure:

And is that a good deal?

[manker]

Technically the max is 187KBps but in practice, what with noise on the phone lines and stuff, you're likely to get about 170ish.

Good deal tho' :01:

[4play]

beware the fine print. i bet it says somewhere there is a download limit.

[BigDaddy555]

I had 1.5dsl before. It wasnt too bad. A world of difference in the dial up for sure. Im on a cable modem @4Mbs, and I dont see a very huge difference due to server bandwith. You cant DL any faster than they can UL. Anyway, for 20 bucks mo...its a deal. Of course, you'll have to buy a modem.

[Rip The Jacker]

http://promotions.yahoo.com/sbc/static/pandp.html?.u_vers=&.u_tn=&.u_status=&.u_reasonCode=&.u_done=&.u_lb=ns&.u_c=1

According to them, the modem is free. But it says something about buying an ethernet card. Isn't that the 10/100 LAN most mobo's come with? :unsure:

[4play]

dont see any mention of having to have a nic.

gotta love the description of the speed : faster and fastest very technical.

[BigDaddy555]

http://promotions.yahoo.com/sbc/static/pandp.html?.u_vers=&.u_tn=&.u_status=&.u_reasonCode=&.u_done=&.u_lb=ns&.u_c=1

According to them, the modem is free. But it says something about buying an ethernet card. Isn't that the 10/100 LAN most mobo's come with? :unsure:

Wow...theyre GIVING you a modem, you dont have to rent it? That seems like a pretty awesome deal. CONTRACT?......
Most newer mobos will have the 10/100 built in, just look on the back of your box, it is a little bigger than the phone plug if you are unfamiliar with it.

[Monkeee]

i'd definetly go with the yahoo dsl, had it for 3 years and no problems. for 19.99$ thats a very good deal!

[Rip The Jacker]

dont see any mention of having to have a nic.

gotta love the description of the speed : faster and fastest very technical.
Yeah faster and fastest. :lol:

Whats a NIC?

@BigDaddy555
I still can't tell if I have the ethernet port for sure. This is my mobo:
http://www.ecsusa.com/products/p4vxasd2.html

Is this it?

[tesco]

yes that's is the ethernet/network port.
NIC = network interface controller...not sure if that last word was right but it's basically the network/ethernet card :P

[Rip The Jacker]

Alright then, I think I have everything. I ordered it. :)

[Yogi]

Alright then, I think I have everything. I ordered it. :)

Congrats, Paul!! :cool:

You have now entered the world of real internet!!! :01:



Yogi

[Rip The Jacker]

Congrats, Paul!! :cool:

You have now entered the world of real internet!!! :01:



Yogi
:01: :01:

Who's Paul? :huh:

[Yogi]

:01: :01:

Who's Paul? :huh:


Oops............... :unsure:


I thought you were........... :wacko:

Sorry.... :blushing:


Congrats, Jack!!! :01:



Yogi

[bigboab]

Y
Whats a NIC?


Stands for "Network Interface Card." Pronounced "nick," this is the card that physically makes the connection between the computer and the network cable. These cards typically use an Ethernet connection and are available in 10, 100, and 1000 Base-T configurations. A 100-Base-T card can transfer data at 100 Mbps. The cards come in ISA and PCI versions and are made by companies like 3Com and LinkSys. So if you want to connect your computer to a network, you better get yourself a NIC.

[Rip The Jacker]

According to my Device Manger I have a "VIA PCI 10/100Mb Fast Ethernet Adapter." That will do right? :unsure:

@Yogi
Its okay, will all the members here it'd be impossible to keep track of everyone, let me fix your post for you. :lol:

[Busyman]

According to my Device Manger I have a "VIA PCI 10/100Mb Fast Ethernet Adapter." That will do right? :unsure:
As long as it's compatible with the modem then yes (in most cases it is).

I always thought that SBC Yahoo gave a dial up account included in the price.

[cpt_azad]

1.5 isn't bad, and for 20 bucks it's a sweet deal...but if i were you i'd start looking for 10mbps+. we used to have telus adsl b4 but due to area cachement shaw cable offered us 10mbps w/ unlimited download but only 20gb upload (bastards). we accepted (well my dad did w/e). 10 mbps is pretty slow i must say (and yes it is dedicated, i dont share w/ anyone in my neighbourhood). we pay about 40 canadian for that, and since 20 american is like 30ish CAD, i'd start looking for 10mbps :) just my thought.

edit:

example for 10mbps on say BT(shadow's exp) from a site like elitetorrents:

avg download speed: 250kb/s
avg upload speed: 60kb/s

example for 10mbps on say FTP:

avg download speed: 1.2mbps+
avg upload speed: N/A

fastest i've seen my speed go is on good old crappy Steam, i've seen it go as high as 2.5 mbps (that's 2.5 mb download a second)

[Busyman]

1.5 isn't bad, and for 20 bucks it's a sweet deal...but if i were you i'd start looking for 10mbps+. we used to have telus adsl b4 but due to area cachement shaw cable offered us 10mbps w/ unlimited download but only 20gb upload (bastards). we accepted (well my dad did w/e). 10 mbps is pretty slow i must say (and yes it is dedicated, i dont share w/ anyone in my neighbourhood). we pay about 40 canadian for that, and since 20 american is like 30ish CAD, i'd start looking for 10mbps :) just my thought.

edit:

example for 10mbps on say BT(shadow's exp) from a site like elitetorrents:

avg download speed: 250kb/s
avg upload speed: 60kb/s

example for 10mbps on say FTP:

avg download speed: 1.2mbps+
avg upload speed: N/A

fastest i've seen my speed go is on good old crappy Steam, i've seen it go as high as 2.5 mbps (that's 2.5 mb download a second)
Bullshit....

To 10 mbps you'll pay out the ass with no definite speed increases. There's no need to even waste time looking for 10 mbps internet.

Furthermore, it's super hard to find.

Azad is just gloating or flat out lying since 4 mbps is over $20 anyway. :dry:

[Yogi]

According to my Device Manger I have a "VIA PCI 10/100Mb Fast Ethernet Adapter." That will do right? :unsure:

@Yogi
Its okay, will all the members here it'd be impossible to keep track of everyone, let me fix your post for you. :lol:


Thanks, Pedro!!! :cool:


And btw. everybody's lying here, i have a 3 giga downconnection on a

modified cnic-card/342 mbps overhauled, for only 50 cents a month. :01:

(payed by BB, if his cheques don't bounce; see above)

My rabbit uses it too to download carrots and seeds. :rolleyes:


YoBMBS

[Rip The Jacker]

As of right now, 1.5mbps is just fine compared to 56K. I'm just glad its only $20 a month, because I plan on buying a new PC this week also.

I was looking at their FAQ, and it said that their self-installation kit does infact come with a NIC. When it arrives, should I install and use their NIC, or the ethernet port my mobo already has? I just don't want the extra work, will it make any difference? :unsure:

[enoughfakefiles]

I use the ethernet port on my computer.It saves the hassle of installing drivers for the USB connection. :01:

[InDaPocket]

I was looking at their FAQ, and it said that their self-installation kit does infact come with a NIC. When it arrives, should I install and use their NIC, or the ethernet port my mobo already has? I just don't want the extra work, will it make any difference? :unsure:

I have the SBC Yahoo Dsl 1.5 also, I didn't use their NIC and have had absolutly no problems.

Also someone earlier posted to read the fine print as there is probably a D/L limit, there is no limit whatsoever.

[Formula1]

Congrats RTJ, welcome to the 21st century :cool:

[Rip The Jacker]

I have the SBC Yahoo Dsl 1.5 also, I didn't use their NIC and have had absolutly no problems.

Also someone earlier posted to read the fine print as there is probably a D/L limit, there is no limit whatsoever.
Awesome, I'll just use the ethernet port my mobo came with. I actually did read the fine print, twice, and didn't find anything about a download limit also. :D

@Formula1
:01:
Its just the waiting thats killing me. :P

[DanB]

RTJ :wub:

[Rip The Jacker]

RTJ :wub:
Well... hello DanB. :unsure:

[Peerzy]

I had 1mb for a while, as somone who over abuses his ISP and that fact that my FTP site owner said leech all you want ( :01: ) The max you can do is 16gb a day, with 480gb a month max, thats download only though. On it i managed to do over 400gb one month but i had tons of hdd space and my pc was hardly never off. I went from 56k>600k>1mb>1.5>3mb

The 1mb>1m5mb>3MB have all been free upgrades from my isp though.

[Formula1]

Yeah, I went from 56->3mbps->4mbps , the 3mbps to 4mbps was a free upgrade from my isp :)

[DanB]

Well... hello DanB. :unsure:

:w00t:

[Rip The Jacker]

:w00t:
:hug:

EDIT: Damn, I'm looking for the smilie thats lifting his eyebrows, I can't find it.

[DanB]

:hug:


Do you have a mod stick? :unsure:

[Rip The Jacker]

Do you have a mod stick? :unsure:
Um... maybe... :unsure:

EDIT: Found it:
http://wenpigsfly.org/smileys/203/naughty.gif http://wenpigsfly.org/smileys/203/naughty.gif http://wenpigsfly.org/smileys/203/naughty.gif

Mod stick?
http://wenpigsfly.org/smileys/203/bottom.gif

[Rip The Jacker]

What are the phone filters for?

[manker]

What are the phone filters for?You have to stick them on the phone-jacks to filter out the DSL from your phoneline.

Phone cable goes in one hole, DSL cable in the other :D

[Rip The Jacker]

You have to stick them on the phone-jacks to filter out the DSL from your phoneline.

Phone cable goes in one hole, DSL cable in the other :D
Oh ok. This should be easy. :01:

[manker]

Did you find the mod stick yet.

[Rip The Jacker]

No, it seems I have misplaced it. :(

[manker]

No, it seems I have misplaced it. :(Would you like to borrow SnnY's (http://moderation.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=1551&st=120#) :ph34r:

[lynx]

You have to stick them on the phone-jacks to filter out the DSL from your phoneline.Read that carefully, it's the one bit that even experienced users get wrong. They often put one at the start of an extension cable with the cable in the phone side, then put another just before the DSL modem, this time on the DSL side.

Of course the first filter has blocked the DSL signal so nothing gets through.

[Rip The Jacker]

Um... no thanks. :ph34r:

[DanB]

:huh:

[Rip The Jacker]

:huh: :huh:

Man now I have to wait a week, this is going to kill me. :(

[DanB]

a week for what?

[Arm]

Heh, my ISP is SBC(my mom works for 'em so we get discount :01: ) and on the internet package it says "up to 1.5 MB download" but in practice the download speed is only about 384k.

Up to is different from what you get. But hey, anything beats dialup. :cool: Plus SBC fought against the RIAA when they started their "sue 'em all" campaign and they never bitched at us for downloading too much. Then again, I dont have my bandwidth maxed out 24/7 like some people here. :cool:

[Rip The Jacker]

a week for what?
The DSL service, it gets activated on the 25th. :(

@Arm
Your mom works for them, your lucky. :cool:

[Ariel_001]

It most likely going to use pppoe. If your using windows try rasppoe.

http://www.raspppoe.com/

[3RA1N1AC]

Heh, my ISP is SBC(my mom works for 'em so we get discount :01: ) and on the internet package it says "up to 1.5 MB download" but in practice the download speed is only about 384k.

Up to is different from what you get. But hey, anything beats dialup. :cool: Plus SBC fought against the RIAA when they started their "sue 'em all" campaign and they never bitched at us for downloading too much. Then again, I dont have my bandwidth maxed out 24/7 like some people here. :cool:
you should learn the difference between a bit and a byte. internet bandwidth is advertised by isps in bits, so your internet package does NOT say "up to 1.5MB" (1.5 megabytes), it says "up to 1.5mb" (1.5 megabits). in contrast, most windows programs measure internet bandwidth in bytes.

8 bits comprise a byte. 1.5 megabits equals roughly 200 kilobytes. mistaking a bit for a byte is like mistaking an inch for a foot.

so if internet explorer or whatever program is telling you that you're getting 384 kilobytes per second, then you are getting nearly twice as much bandwidth as promised by the isp. :P

[Arm]

you should learn the difference between a bit and a byte. internet bandwidth is advertised by isps in bits, so your internet package does NOT say "up to 1.5MB" (1.5 megabytes), it says "up to 1.5mb" (1.5 megabits). in contrast, most windows programs measure internet bandwidth in bytes.

8 bits comprise a byte. 1.5 megabits equals roughly 200 kilobytes. mistaking a bit for a byte is like mistaking an inch for a foot.

so if internet explorer or whatever program is telling you that you're getting 384 kilobytes per second, then you are getting nearly twice as much bandwidth as promised by the isp. :P
Actually it's mistaking 1 inch for 8 inches. 2/3 of a foot. ;)

[cpt_azad]

Bullshit....

To 10 mbps you'll pay out the ass with no definite speed increases. There's no need to even waste time looking for 10 mbps internet.

Furthermore, it's super hard to find.

Azad is just gloating or flat out lying since 4 mbps is over $20 anyway. :dry:

http://server2.uploadit.org/files/captazad-untitled.JPG

[Peerzy]

Your a fucking tard. thats the speed of your network card, and its not even a fast one. if were going by your reasoning i have a 100mb pipe.

http://img47.exs.cx/img47/5278/azardisadumbfuck6ul.th.jpg (http://img47.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img47&image=azardisadumbfuck6ul.jpg)

Thats just how fast someone could send data through your computer, but ofcourse no one does as you don't have 10mb.

[DanB]

such a way with words :lol:

[Virtualbody1234]

such a way with words :lol:
Beautiful.

[manker]

:lol:

Had to bump this because pwnage at that level is pure artistry.

[Snee]

That explains his 10Mbps connection. :lol:

Beautiful, thanks for bumping it.

[3RA1N1AC]

Actually it's mistaking 1 inch for 8 inches. 2/3 of a foot. ;)
yeah yeah. to be precise, yeah. :P

but anyway, 1.5 megabit/second internet service should get you roughly 187 kilobytes/second download speeds, and 3 megabits/second would be about 375 kilobytes/second. it makes a lot of sense when you know the "8 bits = 1 byte" rule.

[Rip The Jacker]

Around 187kb/sec? Thats wonderful compared to 4.5kb/sec dial-up. :D

So 8 bits = 1 byte, I've learned something new! :01:

[bigdawgfoxx]

I have the 1.5Mbps and I have gotten in the 200s on downloads...but yah usually around 150ish but mines 60 bucks a month

[Rip The Jacker]

You pay $60 a month for 1.5Mbps DSL?

Wow I feel lucky. :)



Not to brag or anything...

EDIT: I wonder how much they'll charge after the first year... :unsure:

[3RA1N1AC]

You pay $60 a month for 1.5Mbps DSL?

Wow I feel lucky. :)
yeah $60 for 1.5 megabit is a pretty high price. i'm paying about $40 for 3 megabit... was paying approx the same as bigdawg, but the trick is that some isps will keep charging you the "introductory" price if you sign up for another one-year commitment.

so if your commitment period has run out and your isp is charging you a really high price, try giving them a call and see if they are willing to give you a discount in exchange for committing to another year.

[Busyman]

yeah $60 for 1.5 megabit is a pretty high price. i'm paying about $40 for 3 megabit... was paying approx the same as bigdawg, but the trick is that some isps will keep charging you the "introductory" price if you sign up for another one-year commitment.

so if your commitment period has run out and your isp is charging you a really high price, try giving them a call and see if they are willing to give you a discount in exchange for committing to another year.
I did the same and now I pay $29.99.

I told Comcast I would switch to Verizon (the company I work for) and would pay the $29.99. They changed it to Verizon's price. I did the same with my dial-up and it dropped from $14.99 to $9.99 and they both were entirely different companies.

[Rip The Jacker]

Well I got my self-install kit today, and there is no NIC, even though the FAQ said it comes with one. Oh well, not really a problem.

Now I just have to wait until Friday before I can hook anything up...

[manker]

Your a fucking tard. thats the speed of your network card, and its not even a fast one. if were going by your reasoning i have a 100mb pipe.

http://img47.exs.cx/img47/5278/azardisadumbfuck6ul.th.jpg (http://img47.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img47&image=azardisadumbfuck6ul.jpg)

Thats just how fast someone could send data through your computer, but ofcourse no one does as you don't have 10mb.This thread just keeps getting bumped :D

[3RA1N1AC]

I did the same and now I pay $29.99.

I told Comcast I would switch to Verizon (the company I work for) and would pay the $29.99. They changed it to Verizon's price. I did the same with my dial-up and it dropped from $14.99 to $9.99 and they both were entirely different companies.
yeah that works too, the old "i'm thinking of switching to the competition... you wanna match their price instead of losing a customer?" threat.

phone companies, isps, and cable/satellite services... they kinda want you to have the impression that the prices are set in stone, but competition is so stiff that when push comes to shove their prices totally ARE negotiable. you just need to pick up the phone and push 'um a little bit, and you can walk away with a nice discount.

[Rip The Jacker]

Only one and a half hours to go! In one and a half hours (12:00am), it will officially be the 25th of March, and I can set up my DSL.

Damn the wait is killing me, if anything goes wrong (because I'm on a shitty PC), I will go crazy!

[RPerry]

2:13 a.m. here, but curious as to your reaction once your hooked up :w00t:

[Rip The Jacker]

45 minutes left! :w00t:

I just really hope nothing goes wrong, my computer is crappy, and just might die recognizing a new connection. If I don't post later on in the evening, something has happened, and I have thrown my computer out a window. :P

[Yogi]

Why not throw it out now??? :devil:

Pics, please........ :P


You'll find a way to buy a new one........... :rolleyes:

[bigboab]

Why not throw it out now??? :devil:

Pics, please........ :P


You'll find a way to buy a new one........... :rolleyes:

Not if he holds on to it as it goes out the window. :unsure:

[RPerry]

yeah, good point yogi. When I had DSL last year, I upgraded to 3MB and they told me that I would be down 24hrs for the upgrade, I was only down about 3 hrs :D

[Rip The Jacker]

So this is what its like to browse the web with DSL! :w00t:

Man I've been missing out for all these years... its so cool, I just turn my computer on, open Firefox, and go. No more dialing up. :01:

My download speeds went from 4KB/sec to 180kb/sec. :w00t:

They didn't have it activated at 12am, but its up and running now! :01:

[RPerry]

congrats RTJ, and enjoy yourself, bet you don't sleep much tonight :lol:

[Snee]

This thread just keeps getting bumped :D
Manker, did you ever see his other screenshot?

[manker]

No I didn't - what the feck's that all about :blink:



Btw, congrats on the connectionage, RTJ :D

[Snee]

It's in the "look at how excellent my new computer is, it's better than any of yours" thread.

It kinda' backfired on him, what with the incredibly inflated processor speed.

[Peerzy]

Your a fucking tard. thats the speed of your network card, and its not even a fast one. if were going by your reasoning i have a 100mb pipe.

http://img47.exs.cx/img47/5278/azardisadumbfuck6ul.th.jpg (http://img47.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img47&image=azardisadumbfuck6ul.jpg)

Thats just how fast someone could send data through your computer, but ofcourse no one does as you don't have 10mb.

Im bored and needed a good laugh so bumpage again :rolleyes:

How is your 10mbit Aztard btw :lol:

[manker]

Im bored and needed a good laugh so bumpage again :rolleyes:

How is your 10mbit Aztard btw :lol::lol: :D

This thread will never die :naughty:

[enoughfakefiles]

Does this mean i have`nt got a 100Mb connection. :rolleyes:

[Busyman]

Does this mean i have`nt got a 100Mb connection. :rolleyes:
That is correct Venger.

[manker]

Got teh rod out there, B :D