We Need A Bookworld And We Need It Now!

[junkyardking]

Come on please give us a bookworld.

Show your support for a bookworld............ :rolleyes: :blink: :blink: :lol: :P B) B) B)

[tracydani]

Book World would be great :D

Maybe we could get rid of about this website and forum to make room(just kidding, but have noticed how the traffic has declined there lately).

[Afronaut]

Im for bookworld too. :)

[MagicNakor]

Yes! Bookworld! :D

Bwah haha. I've got more crusaders. :P

:ninja:

[jetje]

Well can someone explain me why we need a bookworld for?

I was thinking of a nice verified in can..... or maybe 2...
What more do you need to do with the digital books???
Really interested in your replies :)

[Eatchipz]

Bookworld All the Way

[JMR]

A BOOKWORLD WOULD BE FANTASTIC
PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE

["The Avatar Man"]

not a bookworld but another world for anything that does not fit into the other categories

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Master YodaX@6 April 2003 - 14:18
not a bookworld but another world for anything that does not fit into the other categories
I agree with kitten killer, again.

["The Avatar Man"]

Originally posted by JmiF+6 April 2003 - 14:24--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JmiF @ 6 April 2003 - 14:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Master YodaX@6 April 2003 - 14:18
not a bookworld but another world for anything that does not fit into the other categories
I agree with kitten killer, again. [/b][/quote]
lol :lol:

[MagicNakor]

Originally posted by jetje@6 April 2003 - 13:35
Well can someone explain me why we need a bookworld for?

I was thinking of a nice verified in can..... or maybe 2...
What more do you need to do with the digital books???
Really interested in your replies :)
To discuss books, of course. You could argue that you don&#39;t need to actually have worlds for music, or movies, or software, or games. But people discuss in those worlds things related to their respective titles.

I think the question could be how could we not have a Bookworld? We&#39;re dedicated to filesharing, which is, essentially, the spread of ideas. The written form is one of the oldest forms of doing that. By simply limiting it to a can, you stop that exchange of ideas. If someone posts...American Gods...for example, there can be no discussion. No debate. No learning the views of others on how they interpret the book, which can be equally if not moreso important than reading the book itself.

How would you expect people to be able to discuss the works of their favourite authours if there is no option for doing so? How would people be exposed to new and different ideas if you don&#39;t give them the opportunity to do so? The written word is a very powerful thing. Books have the ability to change the outlook of a person. The book is engrained into our society, so much so that I bet most of the people on this board know that the answer to the meaning of life is 42. People know about Noah&#39;s Ark and the Great Flood.

Our films and computer games exist because of books. If Tolkien hadn&#39;t been an avid scholar himself, he would have never wrote The Lord of the Rings and his other works. The roleplaying world, as we know it, would likely not exist. If there was no Beowulf, there would be no Lord of the Rings. If there were no Lord of the Rings, there would be no Star Wars. If there were no written tales of heroes and gods, most of what we know about civilizations past would not exist. We know relatively little about the Olmecs, as they had no form of written language. We know scads about the Greeks, because they did have a form of written language.

I could go on. But I won&#39;t. I want to see other people&#39;s responses to this question before continuing a bit.

Are we such a backwards society that films and computer games are more important than books? I hope not.

:ninja:

["The Avatar Man"]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@6 April 2003 - 14:28
We&#39;re dedicated to filesharing, which is, essentially, the spread of ideas.
the spread of ideas?


lol
that&#39;s priceless,yeah right :lol:
anyways on a more serious note you did manage to convince me that a place to discuss books is needed
but it may still be good to leave it open to anything that does not fit into other categories

[jetje]

No i read a lot of books irl (fiction 2 to 3 a month, and for work... yak but need to1-2)... so that wasn&#39;t my question. But you pretty much answered the question. Really i do wanna understand why people want a bookworld...&#33;

Next question, being an community from all over the world, are there e-books (digital) in all languages?
or just english?

[MagicNakor]

Originally posted by Master YodaX@6 April 2003 - 14:18
not a bookworld but another world for anything that does not fit into the other categories
And what exactly would that be? You have hardware. You have software. You have computer games (which is, essentially, just a subset of software). You have music. And you have film.

The only thing that isn&#39;t represented there is "images." But I don&#39;t think people would be interested in my collection of Pre-Raphaelite artwork.

If you want porn, you don&#39;t need to look too far. Why even bother putting up verified "images," because most of what the faked files are renamed to is porn anyway, and a large selection of the celebrated "celebrity images" are fake, anyway.

:ninja:

[MagicNakor]

Originally posted by Master YodaX@6 April 2003 - 14:33
lol
that&#39;s priceless,yeah right :lol:

Yes. The spread of ideas. The whole filesharing system is based around the spread of ideas. Even the system itself is the realization of someone&#39;s idea that media should be readily available. See how ideas shape the world? Not every idea is a good one, but it&#39;s in the exchange where we learn. Every song you download has the idea of the songwriter inside. Every film you watch is the director&#39;s vision of some idea that captivated him. Every video game you play is the realization of some group of like-minded programmers and graphic artists. Every person you tell to quit leeching, or to upgrade to K++ is recieving your ideas, your advice. Every person who responds in a crude manner to that, well, they have their ideas about what they&#39;re doing, and they&#39;re expressing them. Whether or not you agree is another matter entirely. This forum is an exchange of ideas. ;) My idea of a Bookworld is obviously quite different than yours. That doesn&#39;t make either of us right, or wrong, it&#39;s just yet another exchange of ideas. :)

:ninja:

[MagicNakor]

Originally posted by jetje@6 April 2003 - 14:34
Next question, being an community from all over the world, are there e-books (digital) in all languages?
or just english?
There certainly are e-books in all sorts of languages. I&#39;ve got a few in French, myself. I&#39;ve seen German, Arabic, Hebrew, French, Spanish, Italian, Russian, the list goes on. What would be posted may be different, though. I&#39;ve got a very few e-books in French and Romanian, because I can read those languages. Although, with the Romanian, I tend to end up looking more words up than I should. ;) Most of my books are in English, though.

:ninja:

[soopaman]

Originally posted by MagicNakor+6 April 2003 - 14:28--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MagicNakor @ 6 April 2003 - 14:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--jetje@6 April 2003 - 13:35
Well can someone explain me why we need a bookworld for?

I was thinking of a nice verified in can.....&nbsp; or maybe 2...
What more do you need to do with the digital books???
Really interested in your replies&nbsp; :)
To discuss books, of course. You could argue that you don&#39;t need to actually have worlds for music, or movies, or software, or games. But people discuss in those worlds things related to their respective titles.

I think the question could be how could we not have a Bookworld? We&#39;re dedicated to filesharing, which is, essentially, the spread of ideas. The written form is one of the oldest forms of doing that. By simply limiting it to a can, you stop that exchange of ideas. If someone posts...American Gods...for example, there can be no discussion. No debate. No learning the views of others on how they interpret the book, which can be equally if not moreso important than reading the book itself.

How would you expect people to be able to discuss the works of their favourite authours if there is no option for doing so? How would people be exposed to new and different ideas if you don&#39;t give them the opportunity to do so? The written word is a very powerful thing. Books have the ability to change the outlook of a person. The book is engrained into our society, so much so that I bet most of the people on this board know that the answer to the meaning of life is 42. People know about Noah&#39;s Ark and the Great Flood.

Our films and computer games exist because of books. If Tolkien hadn&#39;t been an avid scholar himself, he would have never wrote The Lord of the Rings and his other works. The roleplaying world, as we know it, would likely not exist. If there was no Beowulf, there would be no Lord of the Rings. If there were no Lord of the Rings, there would be no Star Wars. If there were no written tales of heroes and gods, most of what we know about civilizations past would not exist. We know relatively little about the Olmecs, as they had no form of written language. We know scads about the Greeks, because they did have a form of written language.

I could go on. But I won&#39;t. I want to see other people&#39;s responses to this question before continuing a bit.

Are we such a backwards society that films and computer games are more important than books? I hope not.

:ninja: [/b][/quote]


I wholeheartedly support having a Bookworld.
MagicNakor is right we have to have a discussion section. How can we exchange opinions and ideas otherwise?? We need more than access to digital books. We need to promote books in ALL forms.

This has already prompted a number of positive replies and surely the powers that be can respond to demand.

WE MUST HAVE A BOOKWORLD&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

AND MAKE IT SOON.

:)

[ClubDiggler]

You got my vote 100%

Need I say more...

:w00t:

[junkyardking]

A placed to discuss books would be great.

Although i dont like reading books on the computer screen, verefied hashes would be great so i could download them and print them out.

[Bender]

We need it to discuss books, like said before in this thread.
I&#39;d like to have it for verifieds as well, for ebooks, audiobooks (for the blind&#33;) and comics.
I would never have thought of searching for the very first episode of Superman without the hash from stoi.

This is a great way as well to show people there&#39;s more than porn on the Fasttrack network.

Why not including an Internetworld as well and calling it &#39;Oddworld&#39;, as suggested in another thread?
Useful Internetsites are posted pretty much all over the board right now, think of URL&#39;s like Speedguide.net, PCPitstop.com, etc...

[j2k4]

I like the idea, though it&#39;s fraught with difficulty

Someone mentioned other resources (forums), but I think if we had our own we could control the tone so it would reflect the membership and lead to more posts by some of the more "reticent" members. Are such things done on a trial basis? Might be wise, as the range of content will surely be daunting; it could end up being, literally, a library, with all the same logistical considerations-TOUGH&#33;
It would be asking alot of the administration.

[tracydani]

I don&#39;t have any better arguments for it then were already posted above.

But I would like to say that if Bookworld or Oddworld comes to pass, I promiss not to jump into the next Porn section vote :P (please, someone remind me to keep my hands off next time it pops up ;) )

If that doesn&#39;t say it all then I don&#39;t know what can convince you :)

[MagicNakor]

Originally posted by j2k4@7 April 2003 - 16:57
...It would be asking alot of the administration...
Not really any much more than software, or video, or music.

:ninja:

[clocker]

Jetje, both of your posts have referred to e-books.
Must the Forum be limited to digital media?
I&#39;d go blind if all my reading was on this crappy monitor&#33; (I&#39;m still lusting after ShareDaddy&#39;s 80 ft. plasma screen billboard...)

[MagicNakor]

E-books and audio books, yes. At least, this is my impression.

:ninja:

[Z]

no need for this. this is all we need: dont look here (ha ha gotcha&#33;) (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=23755)

[tracydani]

Here (http://www.baen.com/library/)is a small selection of books that Baen is offering.

If we are lucky, they will keep this idea alive :)

P.S. This would look a whole lot better if it was moved to Bookworld :P

[Got_brains?]

How about FOODWORLD? Now that would be something. :lol:

[MagicNakor]

Foodworld? <_<

Really, what&#39;s the word from the mod front on Bookworld?

:ninja:

[MagicNakor]

Because
Us
Magic-users
Persist ;)

Any new news on Bookworld? :D

:ninja:

[Got_brains?]

Food world is under construction as we speak.... In my mind... :lol:

Edit: There is a trick to this post.... look carefully.

[Got_brains?]

:D Do you see it?

[MagicNakor]

Yes. Your white is too bright against the background to be truly "invisible." ;)

:ninja:

[stoi]

Well it doesnt look like anything has been decided yet about a bookworld, shame realy, could have been interesting.

Also i have uploaded all my ebooks by author to alt.binaries.ebooks on newsgroups if anyone wants to get them that way, i will be adding my technichal books to free.ebooks.emanuals in the next couple of days as well if you are struggling to find any sources on kazaa.

the more ppl that get them from the newsgroups, unrar them and then share on fasttrack the quicker they will spread, as i tried sharing all of them individually, 2500 files and i think ppl were struggling to find them as there was that many files to search through on my pc. so i decided to upload them to newsgroups in blocks of authors.

[soopaman]

We could start a chant&#33;&#33;

"BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD
BOOKWORLD " :lol: :D :lol:

Come on MODS give us the Bookworld or people will get hurt&#33;&#33; :ph34r:

[lurker]

I think it&#39;s a great idea, especially considering it would be a first for the fast trak network (I believe). Go Go Bookworld&#33;

[MagicNakor]

Is that like "go go gadget?"

Hehe, must be some long mod-team chat going on. I think Bender first said he&#39;d post a topic three weeks ago or so.

:ninja:

[chloe_cc2002]

support bookworld ....sounds like you people are into a wide range of stuff

[Got_brains?]

oops. :lol:

[MagicNakor]

Books
Utilize
My
Processor

(Don&#39;t ask about that. ;))

Any new news on Bookworld?

:ninja:

[MusicWorld]

:) Give the man a bookworld.Then maybe we will be beating somebody in topics and replies besides Hardwareworld. :P

[MagicNakor]

Wee, I&#39;ve got the Musicworld Crusader on my side now. :D

:ninja:

[Got_brains?]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@17 April 2003 - 05:57
Wee, I&#39;ve got the Musicworld Crusader on my side now. :D

:ninja:
I am for it too. (La la land&#39;s behind you too&#33; :D )

[Got_brains?]

Originally posted by MusicWorld@17 April 2003 - 03:59
:) Give the man a bookworld.Then maybe we will be beating somebody in topics and replies besides Hardwareworld. :P
Heres something for you:

http://www.mansun-nl.com/smilies/musicband.gif

[Bender]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@15 April 2003 - 10:31
Is that like "go go gadget?"

Hehe, must be some long mod-team chat going on. I think Bender first said he&#39;d post a topic three weeks ago or so.

:ninja:
Still lobbying, it&#39;s hard though... :(

["The Avatar Man"]

books are the work of the devil and a bookworld would be too for it is trough books that his true form will come to be known
http://www.darksidedisplays.com/images/Links/demon.jpg

[Got_brains?]

Originally posted by "The Avatar Man"@17 April 2003 - 07:01
books are the work of the devil and a bookworld would be too for it is trough books that his true form will come to be known

Are you Yoda master x? or just someone else?

[MagicNakor]

Ah, come on, this post&#39;s at 4 pages already. ;) Let&#39;s have a poll&#33;&#33;&#33;

:ninja:

[junkyardking]

come on give us a bookworld&#33;

[Got_brains?]

BOOKWORLD&#33;

[stoi]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.trump/Avatars/bw2.gif

[J'Pol]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.trump/Avatars/bw2.gif

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.trump/Avatars/bw2.gif

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.trump/Avatars/bw2.gif

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.trump/Avatars/bw2.gif

[namzuf9]

Originally posted by "The Avatar Man"@17 April 2003 - 14:01
books are the work of the devil and a bookworld would be too for it is trough books that his true form will come to be known

Its true, I just d/l Anton La Vey&#39;s "Satanic Bible"&#33;&#33;&#33; :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :santa: (St Nick was a nasty bugger as well&#33;&#33;&#33;)

Anyways:
BOOKWORLD&#33; Please

[stoi]

i dont know, theres always someone who has to go one better, isnt there JimF :P :D .

Also thats plagerism, stealing my pic like that for your advantage. ;) :P j/k

[J'Pol]

Who, me ....

I cant even spell plagiarism mate.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.trump/Avatars/Matrix5.gif

[J'Pol]

Who put that there

[stoi]

and i never done this

http://image.uploader.net/uploaded/CD19L26.jpg

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@6 April 2003 - 12:28
The book is engrained into our society, so much so that I bet most of the people on this board know that the answer to the meaning of life is 42.
OMG...Now it all makes sense.

I&#39;ve had this question floating around in my head for years now. 42 explains everything.

The mysteries of the universe have just been unfolded.

I ALONE KNOW THE MEANING TO THE ULTIMATE QUESTION OF LIFE, THE UNIVERSE AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN THROW IN.

Ooops...Damn...I just forgot what the question was.

Oh well...It&#39;ll come to me...Give me a sec.

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by "The Avatar Man"@17 April 2003 - 09:01
books are the work of the devil
Its true...Its true...I am the devil and it&#39;s my job to read books.


Can you ever forgive me?

I promise I&#39;ll never to it again.
.
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today

[ne1GotZardoz]

Here is a copy of a message I just sent to Jetje:

Dude...I noticed a request for more info early in the Bookworld topic of the Lounge forum, by you, but I haven&#39;t seen any sign of you there since then.
Agreed that most of it is the same question over and over...Why can&#39;t we have a bookworld...but answers to your question are also there.

The main reason we want a bookworld though is because when the war is gone, and Ongoing US/Coalition forums die, there will be no place for the intellectual community on here to enjoy.
Once again we will be thrown into the mix with those who ,by their verbal skills, may not even know what a book is.
If you do a search for &#39;audio books&#39;, &#39;ebooks&#39; or just &#39;book&#39;, you&#39;ll find a decent beginning to build from.
Yes...They are occasionally available in other language. There are even books to teach other languages on Kazaalight.
The existance of a full forum set to support them, would increase their number and range of language.

How can that be a bad idea?

Peace

[Keikan]

What is a "book" ???

[MagicNakor]

Way back in ancient times, people wrote things down on this mysterious substance called "paper." They used "ink" to do this, and then bound the ink-marked-paper, known as "pages," together. The result was something called a "book." You may have one lying around, collecting dust, or being used as a paperweight.

;)

:ninja:

[tzone]

ok what is this book world and why do we need it


you already have a link to your forum in your sig if you are here posting just to show links to your forum we consider that as spamming.... <_< So don&#39;t do that again

[Keikan]

Books o ya those things with words, and paper and words that we have to
do with them hmmmm.. Oh ya its called "reading" and we do this activity
in some place where you learn starts with a "s" You have to learn *shivers*

[MagicNakor]

Originally posted by kcn@20 April 2003 - 09:29
ok what is this book world and why do we need it
just made a trip to disney... didn&#39;t edit your topic magic, and delete the link to a forum

Read the thread. <_<

:ninja:

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by Keikan@20 April 2003 - 02:36
What is a "book" ???
Its this new technology they&#39;ve been kicking around down at Nasa.
The idea, is to feed information directly into the brain through a revolutionary method I like to call, &#39;Visual Osmosis&#39;.

The technology has existed in crude form for centuries.

Nasa&#39;s new twist on it would be to send an infinite number of monkeys into space with an infinite number of word processors. Then, a series of plasma field satelites will begin transmitting the random information from the monkeys, over a carefully placed grid which will then print them on the plasma field so we on earth can see them clearly.
There is this theory that if we wait long enough, one of the monkeys will type out &#39;War and Peace&#39;.
Of course, the last three attempts had to be aborted. (One of the monkeys on each mission, pee&#39;d on the central computer, frying all of its components).

But we&#39;ll keep trodding on. Eventually it has to work...Right.

And even if it doesn&#39;t, you will have no idea what I am talking about if you never read a book.
So I&#39;m safe on this. :)

Peace

[MagicNakor]

I thought it was Hamlet, not War and Peace. ;)

:ninja:

[Got_brains?]

Originally posted by kcn@20 April 2003 - 01:29
ok what is this book world and why do we need it

please visit my forum (http://tzone.to-j.com/inex.php)
:lol: Your link dosent work because you dont have a &#39;d&#39; in &#39;index&#39;. :lol: Also, you dont even have to have &#39;index&#39; the browser looks for a file name of &#39;index&#39; when you go somewere like www.microsoft.com.
It would need to look like this: http://tzone.to-j.com/index.php or http://tzone.to-j.com/. Hope that helps&#33; :)

[Bender]

Vote for the Bookworld (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=28659). :)

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@20 April 2003 - 06:39
I thought it was Hamlet, not War and Peace. ;)

:ninja:
It doesn&#39;t matter now anyway.
They&#39;ve scraped the whole idea.
I didn&#39;t know, but they tried sending a fourth mission up last night.
All of the male monkeys started having sex with the keyboards.
It was horrible.
All the keys stuck together and all any of them could type was hgjhgjhgjhgj over and over again.

Turns out, its not as simple an idea as it sounded.

And do you have any idea how hard it is to find an infinite number of monkeys?

Peace

[MagicNakor]

Infinitely impossible? ;)

:ninja:

[ne1GotZardoz]

Here is Jetje&#39;s reply to my message:

I read almost every topic posted on the forum. So i track that topic 2. The mods and admins have debates on this right now. I asked my question there cause my opinion is that one or two big threads can cover all audiobooks. I would like to see i&#39;m wrong. IMO there still is no need for a sepereate world there. If we do that we get the anime people asking their own world And who knows what will follow..??

Start one thread in one of the worlds and post hashes in there could be sufficient. Prove me wrong there&#33;?
But i&#39;m not the only decission maker, again that&#39;s why i asked my questions. I am not against a bookworld, i&#39;m against having to many specific/small sections. I think it will do no good to the board.
Btw i&#39;m a reader, read 2 -3 books every month. can read/write in 4 different languages.

But we have a big debate on this in the mod room... Answers to that soon to follow my guess.

And here is my reply back to him:

Thanks for the reply.
I understand your delema. If you do it for us, you have to do it for everyone.
I don&#39;t necessarily agree with that though.
Movieworld covers video formats.
Musicworld covers audio formats.
Softwareworld covers...well..software including games, buisiness and graphic software, etc.
Gameworld wasn&#39;t really necessary except that I&#39;m sure the softwareworld forums were probably excessive so a gameworld was added. (I&#39;m guessing here).
Hardwareworld. Not really sure why that one is here since you cannot download hardware. Firmware revisions maybe?
But there is no forum set for Books. And books, and book discussion do not really fit into any of the other forums.
To limit it to a hash thread would be unfair since other forum sets are not limited like that.

I hope these arguments help.

Peace

[MagicNakor]

I can&#39;t see how anime factors into it. It comes in two formats, really.

Movies/television shows.
Comic books.

One of those is already represented. Hopefully, the other will be soon. I already explained my point of view about the thread-hash-world thing earlier in this topic.

[Note: Sarcasm below.]

I&#39;d argue that Gameworld is just a subset of Softwareworld. Why don&#39;t we merge the two? And I&#39;d argue that Hardwareworld has less to do with P2P file-swapping than Bookworld ever would. Why don&#39;t we just obliterate it? There are plenty of places to get hardware help. <_<


[Note: Sarcasm above.]

:ninja:

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@20 April 2003 - 19:54
I can&#39;t see how anime factors into it. It comes in two formats, really.

Movies/television shows.
Comic books.

One of those is already represented. Hopefully, the other will be soon. I already explained my point of view about the thread-hash-world thing earlier in this topic.

[Note: Sarcasm below.]

I&#39;d argue that Gameworld is just a subset of Softwareworld. Why don&#39;t we merge the two? And I&#39;d argue that Hardwareworld has less to do with P2P file-swapping than Bookworld ever would. Why don&#39;t we just obliterate it? There are plenty of places to get hardware help. <_<


[Note: Sarcasm above.]

:ninja:
I pretty much said all that. Without the sarcasm of course.

I haven&#39;t heard any reply to my last message to Jetje.

I hope thats a good thing. I failed though, to point out there there are more formats than just audio for books, also text. I had pointed that out I thought in the original post.

Surely he has seriously studdied the issue.

Do you suppose its possible he is thinking only of audio books?

I have the Adobe PDF and the DOC versions of Plato&#39;s Republic.
My son had me download the entire Harry Potter series in PDF format.
He has the hardcover books, but he thought it would be cool to carry all the books with him on the laptop.

You can get the whole list of Government Auctions on here. Thats a big book with tons of info.
But no place to really talk about it. If you post that info in the lounge, it will just get lost on the 3rd page.

Oh well. I hope the Mods can come to an acceptable agreement.

The Ongoing Coalition forum has been the main reason I keep wasting my time on here. When its gone, there will really be nothing left worth commenting on.

Peace

[MagicNakor]

He may be thinking only of audio books. I don&#39;t know, though.

Most of my books are in .PDF format. I&#39;ve got a few .RTF, though.

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[jetje]

imo opinion a book still needs to smell and feel paper...
I always buy the books that i read fresh and new... have a lot of them now...
Still can&#39;t imagine the pleasure of e-books... ;)
well i admit i have to try that once then... :)

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by jetje @ 22 April 2003 - 05:41
imo opinion a book still needs to smell and feel paper...
I always buy the books that i read fresh and new... have a lot of them now...
Still can&#39;t imagine the pleasure of e-books...&nbsp;
well i admit i have to try that once then...&nbsp;



There are alot of rare books online and out of print books.

One of the greatest advantages of having a book on your computer, is the ability to search through it for a certain passage, word, phrase.

For example, if you have the Hitchiker&#39;s Guide to the Galaxy, and you&#39;re trying to remember what that ravenous beast was that you had to put a towel on your head to escape from, you can search for the word &#39;towel&#39; and find it easily.

If you have a copy of any bible, technical manual, how-to book, what-have-you, on your computer, you can look up specific information in seconds that you may never be able to find otherwise, even with an index.

Plus the fact that you can carry an entire library of books on one CD.

E-Books can&#39;t be beat dude. :)

Peace

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@22 April 2003 - 04:40
He may be thinking only of audio books. I don&#39;t know, though.

Most of my books are in .PDF format. I&#39;ve got a few .RTF, though.

:ninja:
What do you use to view rich text format?

I&#39;m guessing thats relatively new? I have only started seeing them recently.

[MagicNakor]

Not new at all. ;) Any word processor (barring Notepad) will open it. :D

Edit: Well, Notepad&#39;ll open it, you just lose the formatting.

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[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@22 April 2003 - 18:47
Not new at all. ;) Any word processor (barring Notepad) will open it. :D

Edit: Well, Notepad&#39;ll open it, you just lose the formatting.

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I&#39;ll have to download an RTF file.

One thing I love about PDF is that it looks like you&#39;re reading book pages.

I even have a copy of one book somewhere that has a few letters that look like they did not fully type.

How does it do that?

Do some PDF files use scanned pages? I can still search for specific words. I know the book graphics look just like they do in the book.

Very interesting.
I&#39;ll need to check into that.

I had a friend once, argueing that you could not fit an entire book on one floppy disk.
(he had never seen an etext)
He was thinking bits and bytes.
8 bits to a byte.
1 byte per character.
50 characters per line average.
25 lines per page average.
300 pages for an average book.


Thats 405Kb

Thats without compression.

With compression you can fit 4, 5, even more books on a single floppy.

A person who moves around alot doesn&#39;t really have room for every book they would like.

A single CD can hold 700mb of info.

If you figure an ample 1mb average file size, thats 700 books.

On one CD.

Hell...The complete works of Shakespeare, every play poem, everything in print from him, only uses 5mb.
A large portion of books are less than 300Kb.
All four Harry Potter books are around 4.5mb total. (big books)

Necronomicon---100Kb
The Apocrypha---844Kb
Koran---1.2mb
King James Bible---5mb
Plato&#39;s Republic---400Kb
US Army Survival Handbook---32mb. (I&#39;m downloading it right now. Gotta know why its bigger than shakespeare. Must be alot of graphics)
Ranger&#39;s Handbook---415Kb
The Simarillion---847Kb
Chronicles of Narnia---3.5mb (7 books and including maps)
Dickens A Christmas carol---400Kb
Prodigal Genius---600Kb (Bio of Nikola Tesla)
Hydroponic Gardening---6Kb
Indoor Gardening---27Kb
FBI Top Secret UFO Files---763Kb
Brief History of Wicca---331Kb
US Declaration of Independance---77Kb

This is a VERY small portion of what is available on here.

Many of these books cannot be had by walking into your local library or bookstore.
Some communities outright ban some of these.

So much for Freedom of the Press.

Wasn&#39;t it Utah that had the book burning back a few years ago?

I&#39;ve found books in library sales that were great literary works or good period info, that had not been in print for well over a hundred years.
Some libraries have local one of a kind books that were area specific.
Then someone with a hitleresque attitude decides that books are evil.
Imagine what is lost to the ravages of time or mans lack of good sense.

We need a book world.


Peace

[MagicNakor]

You&#39;ve voted for Bookworld, right? ;)

PDF&#39;s can be made two ways...one is scanned and it becomes just a picture of the page, the other I&#39;m not sure, but it&#39;s searchable.

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[Got_brains?]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@23 April 2003 - 01:54
You&#39;ve voted for Bookworld, right? ;)

PDF&#39;s can be made two ways...one is scanned and it becomes just a picture of the page, the other I&#39;m not sure, but it&#39;s searchable.

:ninja:
Yea, you can use a scanner or a prog to design the pdf on your comp.

I believe that some 3rd partie companys are making progs that will write to the .pdf format (besides the #1 Adobe Acrobat [ not reader&#33; ] ).

The only ones I know about besides reader are Broderbunds The Print Shop 15, Adobes (second official one) Indesign < It really good&#33; .

:beerchug:

[ne1GotZardoz]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@23 April 2003 - 03:54
You&#39;ve voted for Bookworld, right? ;)

PDF&#39;s can be made two ways...one is scanned and it becomes just a picture of the page, the other I&#39;m not sure, but it&#39;s searchable.

:ninja:
Yep :)

[ne1GotZardoz]

Ok Harry Potter fans.

This appears to be a legitimate PDF of Book Five.

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix(book5).PDF (sig2dat:///|File:Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix(book5).PDF|Length:1410083 Bytes,1377KB|UUHash:=tgNLJWOUqrbDOeu6BieAgslVswY=|)

My son has read them all and assures me this is not any of the first four.

I&#39;ve breafly skimmed through it and it certainly does seem to be the genuine article.

Peace

[MagicNakor]

I&#39;ll bet that it&#39;s an ARC.

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[Got_brains?]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@29 April 2003 - 03:48
I&#39;ll bet that it&#39;s an ARC.

:ninja:
whats a arc?

[MagicNakor]

Advanced Reading Copy.

It&#39;s sent out to reviewers and editors before the final version gets put into print. So it usually differs slightly (sometimes drastically) from the first-run printing.

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