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100%
04-01-2005, 11:07 PM
ok
i come home
my girlfriend tells me she just saw on cnn that the pope has died
as a catholic this seriously sadens me
i turn on tv
it turns out
the pope has had his last rights, he is dieing...
as if this is new
why does the press hype?
it is sick to abuse such a situation
yes he is a landmark, part of history, the most powerfull figure in catholic democracy
we know he is sick, he cant feed himself, he is older than old but out of all the political institutions it adds to see a persons entire life instead of the best 4 years.
i dont know what im saying but it angers me to see the press jump to conclusions like that and i know the world (+colonies) are saddened :crying:

keyser_soze
04-02-2005, 12:14 AM
any deaths sad regardless of who it was :unsure:

Busyman
04-02-2005, 12:40 AM
Regarding Christian religion, what is the purpose of the Pope? :huh:

manker
04-02-2005, 12:56 AM
What's a Catholic democracy.

100%
04-02-2005, 12:58 AM
it is my way of saying what is happening in the vatican is political
unlike spiritual

manker
04-02-2005, 01:01 AM
Ah right, cheers.

From what I read the Italian paparazzi made an error and pronounced him dead when all that had happened was that his breathing went rather shallow. Sensationalism at it's best.

Caroline
04-02-2005, 01:14 AM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/pope/art/hnew2_pic.jpg

j2k4
04-02-2005, 01:59 AM
I agree with Zed.

This is unforgivable.

Bloody Hell, it's not an American Presidential election we're talking about here.

We shant get a mea culpa from the press, you know.

I'm sure the fact of it will not faze certain of us, but think about it for just a second-this is what our media has become, and, at least for now, it is all we have.

Think of it in terms of "intelligence" for public consumption.

vidcc
04-02-2005, 02:21 AM
I'm not sure exactly what the point of this thread is.

Is it because a mistake was made and the reports of the popes demise were exaggerated or is it about something else.

I don't follow Vatican politics being an atheist and all and other than a few questions that puzzle me when it comes to the lengths taken to "stop God taking him" I really have no interest in the man.

However I wish him peace in the inevitable and hope he feels no pain.

100%
04-02-2005, 02:39 AM
The point of this thread can be found in the title. (mainly press flame)

Summary:
The pope is dieing, he wants no hospital, he has recieved his last rights, recieving your last rights is the last statement...
He is regarded as the closest thing to god
That is all

It is now 2005, the pope's of the olden days where the most powerfull persons in the world, today "he" is still dominant over "moral" issues. Apart from Kings, Popes hold their position until death - which is a very non "modern" attitude - and in the eyes of the non religious 205ers can be seen as a reality tv, but to those that "believe" it is not a media hype joke.

next?

vidcc
04-02-2005, 03:08 AM
The point of this thread can be found in the title. (mainly press flame)

Summary:
The pope is dieing, he wants no hospital, he has recieved his last rights, recieving your last rights is the last statement...


Anointing of the sick is a sacrament. A sacrament is an outward sign of God's love. This sacrament isn't just for people who are almost dead. However, it is for anyone who might be sick and facing death, old age, serious mental illness, people who are going to have a serious operation, and those who might find strength with the sacrament.

The Anointing of the Sick is also known as the Last Rites. In the Anointing of the Sick, we pray for the sick person to be healed in body and spirit if that healing will contribute to the salvation of their soul. If the sick person was not able to receive the sacrament of Penance, the forgiveness of sins is also granted. Finally, for those at the point of death, the Anointing of the Sick, along with Reconciliation and Eucharist prepares for their passage to eternal life.
source (http://catholicism.about.com/od/deathdyingafterlife/f/lastritesf04.htm)
the last rites are not always the "last statement" although in this case he probably won't recover.




It is now 2005, the pope's of the olden days where the most powerfull persons in the world, today "he" is still dominant over "moral" issues. Apart from Kings, Popes hold their position until death - which is a very non "modern" attitude - and in the eyes of the non religious 205ers can be seen as a reality tv, but to those that "believe" it is not a media hype joke.

next?
was the headline "pope wanted dead or alive"?

Are you distressed at the fact that the worlds media is camped outside awaiting news? or that one reported mistakenly and the others picked up on it and followed suit?
we live in a modern world with instant news.

100%
04-02-2005, 03:13 AM
the pope is dead




believe what you read

Busyman
04-02-2005, 03:14 AM
The point of this thread can be found in the title. (mainly press flame)

Summary:
The pope is dieing, he wants no hospital, he has recieved his last rights, recieving your last rights is the last statement...
He is regarded as the closest thing to god
That is all

It is now 2005, the pope's of the olden days where the most powerfull persons in the world, today "he" is still dominant over "moral" issues. Apart from Kings, Popes hold their position until death - which is a very non "modern" attitude - and in the eyes of the non religious 205ers can be seen as a reality tv, but to those that "believe" it is not a media hype joke.

next?
...and the Pope presides over an institution that sought to cover up child molesting priests.

Someone please shed some more light on...what is the Pope? He is one religious figure I have never read up on, which is kinda weird.

I've paid much attention to the Catholic religion but have studied others.
I know it involves wearing specific wearing of garbs, going through a priest to get to God, and has other books (besides the Bible) chronicling wars.

It seems that sans the Bible, when The Vatican decrees something, everyone that is Catholic should fall in line to an extent. Lastly, I understand Catholism came about as a compromise between Christianity and the Romans.

Someone shed some light...

Formula1
04-02-2005, 03:21 AM
...and the Pope presides over an institution that sought to cover up child molesting priests.

Someone please shed some more light on...what is the Pope? He is one religious figure I have never read up on, which is kinda weird.

I've paid much attention to the Catholic religion but have studied others.
I know it involves wearing specific wearing of garbs, going through a priest to get to God, and has other books (besides the Bible) chronicling wars.

It seems that sans the Bible, when The Vatican decrees something, everyone that is Catholic should fall in line to an extent. Lastly, I understand Catholism came about as a compromise between Christianity and the Romans.

Someone shed some light...

http://www.answers.com/pope

off topic
And vatican city is ruled under theocracy not democracy.

Busyman
04-02-2005, 03:30 AM
Catholics believe that when the pope speaks officially on matters of faith and morals, he speaks infallibly.



It seems that sans the Bible, when The Vatican decrees something, everyone that is Catholic should fall in line to an extent.

At least on one note I ain't far off.

Gimme more.. :)

100%
04-02-2005, 03:36 AM
weird...i just reread this thread and it turns out i am quite pro religion
although if you asked me i'd say i wasn't
is it wrong to want a hamburger now?

bigboab
04-02-2005, 04:20 AM
weird...i just reread this thread and it turns out i am quite pro religion
although if you asked me i'd say i wasn't
is it wrong to want a hamburger now?

Yes. As long as it is not Friday. :ph34r:

ziggyjuarez
04-02-2005, 04:23 AM
OMFG a rock fell on him :w00t:
http://www.catfunt.net/catfuntreviews/images/pope.jpg

bigboab
04-02-2005, 04:38 AM
OMFG a rock fell on him :w00t:
http://www.catfunt.net/catfuntreviews/images/pope.jpg

Relax! :) It was the rock of ages. :)

Rat Faced
04-02-2005, 09:43 PM
It is now 2005, the pope's of the olden days where the most powerfull persons in the world, today "he" is still dominant over "moral" issues.

Then the Iraqi War was Immoral...

Arm
04-03-2005, 12:53 AM
any deaths sad regardless of who it was :unsure:
You mean Timothy Mcveighs death was sad? :huh: