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garretrevels
04-07-2003, 02:39 AM
the matrix is way over-rated

but yes it is a good movie
just not worth all the hype

itay
04-07-2003, 01:14 PM
i think u right.... but still it's a good movie
so people attend to get excited.....

itay
04-07-2003, 01:15 PM
but if Matrix 2 is like the first one it deserve it's over-rate

sred2003
04-07-2003, 02:10 PM
the matrix own3d and thats a fact.
i admit it didnt recieve the critical acclaim that other movies do
like maybe... about schmidt. lol

-=Hellfire=-
04-07-2003, 09:50 PM
The Matrix was good because it came at a time when there where no good actions movies going about and the fact that it was totally different from anything that was out before it. I personally think its one of the best actions ive ever seen but ive got bored of it now cos ive seen it too many times :P . Plus the lobby sence just kicked ass

lunatacs
04-07-2003, 10:19 PM
the more you hyper about matrix 2, the less it might look good, in my opinion. I'm willing to bet, MANY or SOME will say matrix 1 was better then 2. This is always the case with making part two to movies; part one always tends to be better. :rolleyes:

sred2003
04-07-2003, 11:56 PM
I'm willing to bet, MANY or SOME will say matrix 1 was better then 2. This is always the case with making part two to movies; part one always tends to be better

what excites me about matrix reloaded is it seems it will
have more action than the first. the matrix spent alot of time
developing the story behind the "what is the matrix".
that will be unnecessary in reloaded.

lunatacs
04-08-2003, 12:06 AM
what excites me about matrix reloaded is it seems it will
have more action than the first. the matrix spent alot of time
developing the story behind the "what is the matrix".
that will be unnecessary in reloaded.


I agree with you, I still stand on my point, people will say matrix 1 was better. :D
it's not an opinion, more like a fact. Every time a movie is released, the second part of
that movie is never good like the first one. Matrix two will have action, and less explaining
about what is the matrix, though they working on a new plot about the movie, to add that
extra kick into the movie. Don't get your hopes up, sorry guys. I have nothing against the movie
i do like it. though some people ....are too much into the idea this movie will be "godly". hehe.
Let's cross our fingers and hope for the best, I hope, I'm wrong. I hope this movie will be better but
its very unlikely. :rolleyes:


Plus, I seen the released trialers of the movie, it looks like alot of special effects will be added. :D
*they looked....GREAT*

Schmiggy_JK23
04-08-2003, 01:41 AM
For the most part, that is true.

But Godfather 2, and Empire Strikes Back, terminator 2, were all better then their respective prequels.

clocker
04-08-2003, 02:04 AM
Schmiggy_JK23...

I would agree that all of those sequels were good, but better? Debatable...

T3 should be very interesting cause by the time it's released Arnold will be like, 70!
Robots with orthopedic aids...can't wait! :lol:

Schmiggy_JK23
04-08-2003, 02:27 AM
yes, i stand by that statement. 3 of the very few sequels that were better then the original.

any one elses opinion?

lunatacs
04-08-2003, 02:36 AM
But Godfather 2, and Empire Strikes Back, terminator 2, were all better then their respective prequels.


Your right. But only very few movies that can be listed that are better then their first release.
As for T3...it has the same case as matrix, all can't wait and wonder though never get to hyper
about it. The first two are likely wonderful, especially part 2. T3 would only be depended on special effects not the whole idea of a plot or good story. Yes, t1 and t2 has special effects, but they had a good story line supporting them. t3 is only passed on now on special effects. Nevertheless, I myself, can't wait and judge. :D

PS. movies you listed are good, and I'm sharing t1 t2. :rolleyes:

sred2003
04-08-2003, 03:07 AM
But Godfather 2, and Empire Strikes Back, terminator 2, were all better then their respective prequels.

yes movies can pull off sequels that are beter than the original but like the guy said it is tough to do and rare. Aliens too, alien was scary and very good, but
aliens kicked major ass.

remember the die hard trilogy. whether the sequels were better is debatable but all of those movies were great. and action movies.

as far as T3. i think it looks horrible from what i have seen.
arnold schwartznegger just makes me laugh when i hear him talk.
i cant take anything he says seriously. when i was a kid i could but
now? no way.

lunatacs
04-08-2003, 03:51 AM
as far as T3. i think it looks horrible from what i have seen.
arnold schwartznegger just makes me laugh when i hear him talk.
i cant take anything he says seriously. when i was a kid i could but
now? no way.


this is why the first t1 and t2, he was a rebot, and didn't say much... only few lines to remember. :D

Schmiggy_JK23
04-08-2003, 07:44 AM
Ya, i am worried t3 is gonna be a big fat fart, especially w/o james cameron at the helm, as he had "no more stories to tell", regarding the terminator series.

I guess we will.

I agree with u on the aliens one too...

what you guys think about highlander 2, the quickening?

lunatacs
04-08-2003, 07:55 PM
highlander?

wow, thats an old movie but yet a good story plot. I do like the story plot and the whole idea of how their should be the "only one". though the movies that came out, aren't as good as the serries that were on TV, I don't know but the movies didn't do much for me. I like the story to develop and be long, action is fun but a good plot is what makes the action work better. I found the fighting in the movies that came out were useless and only "action" without any good plot to it. Maybe its just me.

cheers

imported_The__One
04-09-2003, 12:32 AM
Well, about the original topic, I thought The Matrix was one of the best movies I&#39;ve ever seen....personally, I thought the action kicked ass ( wasn&#39;t TOO motch, like in xXx, Terminator series...) And, if U&#39;r into that kinda stuff, the matrix was much more then just a action movie with no storie, ther&#39;s a "deeper" meaning to practicly every sentence, gesture and scene of the movie (My fucking filosofy teacher is showing the movie in the classes, and relaiting it to Plato, Socrates... <_< zzzzzz....

eboni
04-09-2003, 01:34 AM
has anyone got the sig 2 dat for matrix reloaded by any chance

nahan
04-09-2003, 02:37 AM
What made the matrix so good is the story not the action.
Allthough the action was cool, action cannot replace a great story.

The whole idea that we could ourselves be living in a dream world is what made the story great
The concept that your NOT really here right now reading this , but just dreaming about reading this and not even knowing.

Its the ultimate mind fuck

I allmost wish I could go back and watch it for the first time,after smoking one.

nizers
04-09-2003, 05:03 AM
Originally posted by Schmiggy_JK23@8 April 2003 - 02:41
For the most part, that is true.

But Godfather 2, and Empire Strikes Back, terminator 2, were all better then their respective prequels.
okay.. i definitly agree that T2 was better then the first. And i&#39;m a true believer that any sequel has the potentiol to be better then the first film. But are we all forgeting what are good friends in Scream taught us..?? Godfather 2 and Empire Strikes Back are not sequels.... they&#39;re part of a trilogy, like LOTR. Your not gonna compare Two Towers to the Fellowship are you? The thing about T2 is that the first one almost seemed to set up the second one perfectly... there&#39;s no way you could&#39;ve just had T2 without T1. I would definitly consider Reloaded to be a true sequal and hopefully it&#39;ll at least be like the Die Hard series, something where i could sit down and watch all three and be entertained the whole 7 hours.


What do i know though...

sred2003
04-09-2003, 05:19 AM
Godfather 2 and Empire Strikes Back are not sequels.... they&#39;re part of a trilogy, like LOTR. Your not gonna compare Two Towers to the Fellowship are you? The thing about T2 is that the first one almost seemed to set up the second one perfectly... there&#39;s no way you could&#39;ve just had T2 without T1. I would definitly consider Reloaded to be a true sequal

with that logic reloaded would also be part of a trilogy.
they made the third movie at tha same time and actually reffered to the series as a trilogy.

as far as terminator 2. definitly a sequel. the original terminator was
a dark sci fi movie(very dark). T2 was completely different.
it had tons of comedy to lighten it up for family consumption.

lunatacs
04-09-2003, 06:41 AM
has anyone got the sig 2 dat for matrix reloaded by any chance

movie should be coming in may, so wait till may 1st or so, it should come out two weeks or so before in the theaters. though a movie like that HAS TO BE WATCHED ON THE BIG SRCEEN&#33;&#33;&#33;@# :D

ezyryder
04-09-2003, 12:00 PM
Yes. I am definatley paying to see this movie&#33; Also, on the over-rated topic. Perhaps you are right, but only because at the time I feel the Matrix was something new and original. It wasn&#39;t another clone from the holly-wood archives or another stolen japanese movie hollywoodized.