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Guillaume
04-30-2005, 01:18 PM
I'm currently reading Arthur C. Clarke's "Sunstorm" and one of the main characters is called Siobhan.

Now, how the hell are you supposed to pronounce that without dislocating your jaw?
Are there letters you don't pronounce or what? :frusty:

GepperRankins
04-30-2005, 01:21 PM
shivon

Guillaume
04-30-2005, 01:26 PM
Thanks.

Don't know why but it somehow blocked me... :unsure:

Biggles
04-30-2005, 01:27 PM
or sho vaune depending on your Gaelic accent.

There is no letter v in the Celtic alphabet so bh is used.

lynx
04-30-2005, 01:30 PM
It's a bit rich though, a Frenchman complaining about unusual spelling. :shifty:

Guillaume
04-30-2005, 01:33 PM
Well our good friends the Romans have helped us a bit with forgetting the subtleties of the celtic languages... :dry:

clocker
04-30-2005, 01:55 PM
Amazing!
Before I even opened the topic I knew what you were going to ask.

I've never known how that name is pronounced, either.

Skiz
04-30-2005, 01:58 PM
sigh-oh-bahn

bigboab
04-30-2005, 02:03 PM
Well our good friends the Romans have helped us a bit with forgetting the subtleties of the celtic languages... :dry:

Speak for yourself. :lol: We Celts retained our language an heritage. The Romans had to build two walls(ballachan) to keep us out*. :lol:


* Or in. Depending on how you want to look at it. :lol:

Guillaume
04-30-2005, 02:08 PM
Certainly to keep you out.

Keeping in they did at Alesia. :angry:
Damn Celtill the vercingetorix and his lack of brains! :frusty:

bigboab
04-30-2005, 02:12 PM
Certainly to keep you out.

Keeping in they did at Alesia. :angry:
Damn Celtill the vercingetorix and his lack of brains! :frusty:

We should have sent you stocks of Whisky. :)

Biggles
04-30-2005, 02:19 PM
Certainly to keep you out.

Keeping in they did at Alesia. :angry:
Damn Celtill the vercingetorix and his lack of brains! :frusty:

You had Asterix though. :01:

JPaul
04-30-2005, 03:48 PM
or sho vaune depending on your Gaelic accent.

There is no letter v in the Celtic alphabet so bh is used.
They realized they had no "v" so decided to use "bh" in it's stead.

That seems an unlikely tale.

Biggles
04-30-2005, 04:20 PM
They realized they had no "v" so decided to use "bh" in it's stead.

That seems an unlikely tale.

:) Perhaps.


Then again...

GepperRankins
04-30-2005, 08:28 PM
siobsan?

vidcc
04-30-2005, 08:42 PM
colin

Guillaume
04-30-2005, 08:43 PM
siobsan?


I asked about an Irish name, not a Japanese one! :angry:








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Gemby!
05-01-2005, 10:29 AM
i say it sha-von

:01:

*mutters about simpletons*

clocker
05-01-2005, 11:07 AM
or sho vaune depending on your Gaelic accent.

There is no letter v in the Celtic alphabet so bh is used.
http://www.wheeloffortuneinfo.com/PatAndVanna-White.JPG
Here are Pat and Vanna to present the Celts with the letter "V".
This should help atone for centuries of linguistic oppression.

The manufacturers of stobhes and Range Robhers will be ever so grateful if you'll use it properly.

Lobhe,
Clocker

bigboab
05-01-2005, 12:21 PM
http://www.wheeloffortuneinfo.com/PatAndVanna-White.JPG
Here are Pat and Vanna to present the Celts with the letter "V".
This should help atone for centuries of linguistic oppression.

The manufacturers of stobhes and Range Robhers will be ever so grateful if you'll use it properly.

Lobhe,
Clocker

I am going to put two fingers up to you sir. :ph34r:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/bigboab/upyours.jpg
If you wonder what it means, please remember we dont have a 'V' in our language. :lol:

clocker
05-01-2005, 12:28 PM
If you wonder what it means, please remember we dont have a 'V' in our language. :lol:
Bhictory?

I'll be leabhing now....

bigboab
05-01-2005, 01:01 PM
Bhictory?

I'll be leabhing now....

That is why we are a peaceful nation. We cant vent our anger. :lol: :lol:

clocker
05-01-2005, 01:33 PM
But you can "bhent"...not as effective, but t'will do I suppose.

Biggles
05-01-2005, 01:49 PM
Is this a good time to mention that there isn't a j,k,q, w, x,y or z either? :shifty:

Biggles
05-01-2005, 02:20 PM
What odd letter combinations do you substitute for these when the need arises, Les? :huh:

For example the Isle of Skye is An t-Eilean Sgitheanach. :lookaroun

Alas I don't speak it - I grew up in the A Ghaidhealtachd (the Highlands) but languages are not my forte and it was just too damned hard. I have toyed with learning it in my dotage when there are less demands on my time (but procrastination has stolen most of that)

Biggles
05-01-2005, 02:47 PM
Yeah-dotage is a bitch.

I've been wondering about selling mine off on E-bay or something...:P

If you get a good price let me know - might offload mine too.





Actually, come to think of it, any price will do.

lynx
05-01-2005, 03:23 PM
Is this a good time to mention that there isn't a j,k,q, w, x,y or z either? :shifty:
There's no reason not to use these letters, there are plenty of them just lying about doing nothing.

It's not as if anyone's going to say "get off those, they're ours" ffs.

What is it with you Celts? Lazy or just too bloody minded? :shutup:

Biggles
05-01-2005, 04:14 PM
There's no reason not to use these letters, there are plenty of them just lying about doing nothing.

It's not as if anyone's going to say "get off those, they're ours" ffs.

What is it with you Celts? Lazy or just too bloody minded? :shutup:

:ohmy:

Spendthrift!

Have you never heard Gordon taking about being prudent? :unsure:

sArA
05-01-2005, 11:22 PM
It is pronounced 'bitch'

(remembers school day's bitch queen)


(apologies for nice people call Siobhan)