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Nightwolf
04-08-2003, 06:06 AM
OK, since everyone else seems to be posting these either/or kind of questions lately, here's mine. I would like to finally upgrade from Win98 to XP. I'd also like to upgrade my TNT2 32MB video card to a Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB. Trouble is, I can only afford to do one or the other right now. Which one will make me happier?

TRshady
04-08-2003, 06:34 AM
I have just upgraded my riva TNT2 to a geforce 4 and the difference is amazing. I recommend changing your graphics card and gettingwindows 2000 pro off kazaa which I've used for over a year and works fine (with updates). Wait till a definite version of XP comes out on kazaa.

reality23
04-08-2003, 06:36 AM
Do you play a lot of games or want to? I'd go for the video card personally. But then again, I do a lot of photshop and 3d work, and do a lot of gaming, so the video card is more important to me. Or you could take the risk and download XP from here. Check the verified software lists and see if it's there. ALso, XP takes up a lot more space than 98 and needs more RAM to run right. Otherwise it's a solid OS. I've been using it for a year and a half and have none of the usual windows complaints about it at all. But if temproarily I had to choose one or the other, the video card for sure.

junkyardking
04-08-2003, 07:42 AM
Why would you buy XP, just get it off Kazza For free - hey that rimes :lol: .

and spend your money on a video card.



TRshady  Posted: 8 April 2003 - 07:34

I have just upgraded my riva TNT2 to a geforce 4 and the difference is amazing. I recommend changing your graphics card and gettingwindows 2000 pro off kazaa which I've used for over a year and works fine (with updates). Wait till a definite version of XP comes out on kazaa.


Definite version??, there are ready with service pack.

Schmiggy_JK23
04-08-2003, 07:47 AM
just use these...

and buy the vid card.. :P

File:Microsoft.Windows.XP.Corp.SP1-Integrated.Reformation.ShareReactor.cue (sig2dat:///|File:Microsoft.Windows.XP.Corp.SP1-Integrated.Reformation.ShareReactor.cue|Length:131 Bytes,0KB|UUHash:=6hIBLOxmylB5UjXC012Qj3z///8=|)
Length:131 Bytes,0KB
UUHash:=6hIBLOxmylB5UjXC012Qj3z///8=

File:Microsoft_Windows_XP_Corp_SP1_Integrated.Reformation.ShareReactor.BIN (sig2dat:///|File:Microsoft_Windows_XP_Corp_SP1_Integrated.Reformation.ShareReactor.BIN|Length:619420368 Bytes,604903KB|UUHash:=Q0Q78YPBHNAN5UZTWrf8Kj5wnlw=|)
Length:619420368 Bytes,604903KB
UUHash:=Q0Q78YPBHNAN5UZTWrf8Kj5wnlw=

Nightwolf
04-08-2003, 09:15 AM
Thanks Schmiggy, but the idea of using a pirated OS just makes me kind of nervous. What if something goes wrong, and I can't get any updates or tech support. Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft already knows exactly who is using a registered version of XP and who isn't.

Thanks also to TRshady and reality23. I do play a lot of 3D games, and I wanted to be sure that I'd notice the difference with a newer video card.

Schmiggy_JK23
04-08-2003, 09:34 AM
If you need tech support, and you cant find help for it online, then you have a serious problem.

For one, most help you will get from microsoft will refer you to their "knowledge base" online. Which you can just as easily search yourself.

I had your same reservations on my first pirated os too, win98... but, you learn things yourself, you friend friends, and others to help online. MS isnt the only who can fix their software problems, over half the time its other people that figure out fixes to the issues anyhow, :lol:

And so what if they do? They gonna come knock on those peoples door? Gonna have tired knuckles right quick.

Hey, its your money, you wanna drop 80-150$ on xp home or pro, your more then welcome to. :D

OcramC
04-08-2003, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by TRshady@8 April 2003 - 06:34
I have just upgraded my riva TNT2 to a geforce 4 and the difference is amazing. I recommend changing your graphics card and gettingwindows 2000 pro off kazaa which I've used for over a year and works fine (with updates). Wait till a definite version of XP comes out on kazaa.
could you post a Sig2Dat link?

Schuler
04-08-2003, 11:31 AM
I say definately go with the video card. Don't be too paranoid about getting Windows XP off of Kazaa. Now htey have programs where you can change your CD key so you can download the Serive Packs without a problem. And don't worry Windows 98 is still a decent operating system anyway. :ph34r:

Wizzandabe
04-08-2003, 03:31 PM
upgrade you graphcs card, then you can always dl xp.

ijc_2003
04-08-2003, 04:49 PM
What ya think microsoft is going to come to your door and charge you, just say its for testing purposes try before you buy, i just installed the xp corp pro sp1 the 1 Schmiggy_JK23 posted works perfect i
even made up my own serial keys so every time they release a sevice pack, just a matter of changing
to a new unlisted serial number :lol: :D B)

Go with a graphics card msi g4ti4400 if you can find 1 as this is on par with 4600

g4ti4400 275mhz core 554mhz memory standard, turned mine up and put some heatsinks on the memory =
G4ti4400 295mhz core 630mhz memory msi driver makes it APG 8x when i decide to upgrade my motherboard.

Livy
04-08-2003, 04:53 PM
all my os are pirated since ive had a computer,
apart from this one on my laptop,win xp home.
my toher comp is running xp corp from kazaa. no prob.
just change the serial key and get sp1.

Schmiggy_JK23
04-08-2003, 10:09 PM
see... I wouldnt steer you wrong man.

But like i said, its your call. and your money.

let us know what you decide, so then we can reccomend cards for ya!

TRshady
04-08-2003, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by Schmiggy_JK23@8 April 2003 - 07:47
just use these...

and buy the vid card.. :P

File:Microsoft.Windows.XP.Corp.SP1-Integrated.Reformation.ShareReactor.cue (sig2dat:///|File:Microsoft.Windows.XP.Corp.SP1-Integrated.Reformation.ShareReactor.cue|Length:131 Bytes,0KB|UUHash:=6hIBLOxmylB5UjXC012Qj3z///8=|)
Length:131 Bytes,0KB
UUHash:=6hIBLOxmylB5UjXC012Qj3z///8=

File:Microsoft_Windows_XP_Corp_SP1_Integrated.Reformation.ShareReactor.BIN (sig2dat:///|File:Microsoft_Windows_XP_Corp_SP1_Integrated.Reformation.ShareReactor.BIN|Length:619420368 Bytes,604903KB|UUHash:=Q0Q78YPBHNAN5UZTWrf8Kj5wnlw=|)
Length:619420368 Bytes,604903KB
UUHash:=Q0Q78YPBHNAN5UZTWrf8Kj5wnlw=

I don't think your sig2dats work here :(
It says error creating file when I paste from clipboard.

Schmiggy_JK23
04-09-2003, 05:21 PM
um, just use the hash maybe? enter it in manually.

ooo
04-09-2003, 08:17 PM
errr u know those are hashes prob wont work w/ copy and paste right... since there is a hyperlink there

Nightwolf
04-09-2003, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by TRshady@8 April 2003 - 17:22
I don't think your sig2dats work here  :(

Hybrid links don't work in the discussion forums, you have to use Normal style when posting. Try these...


File:Microsoft.Windows.XP.Corp.SP1-Integrated.Reformation.ShareReactor.cue
Length:131 Bytes,0KB
UUHash:=6hIBLOxmylB5UjXC012Qj3z///8=

File:Microsoft_Windows_XP_Corp_SP1_Integrated.Reformation.ShareReactor.BIN
Length:619420368 Bytes,604903KB
UUHash:=Q0Q78YPBHNAN5UZTWrf8Kj5wnlw=

ooo
04-09-2003, 08:29 PM
exactly... now those works

well actually it does

switch < to [ U R L ] [ / U R L ]

just no spaces

Lamsey
04-09-2003, 08:32 PM
There is a thread about this. Look in software verifieds - there&#39;s a thread with this in it.

It also has a hash for the .nfo file, which includes the all-important CD-key.

ooo
04-09-2003, 08:43 PM
lolol i explained it well tho

Wolfmight
04-09-2003, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by junkyardking@8 April 2003 - 08:42
Why would you buy XP, just get it off Kazza For free - hey that rimes :lol: .

and spend your money on a video card.



TRshady&nbsp; Posted: 8 April 2003 - 07:34

I have just upgraded my riva TNT2 to a geforce 4 and the difference is amazing. I recommend changing your graphics card and gettingwindows 2000 pro off kazaa which I&#39;ve used for over a year and works fine (with updates). Wait till a definite version of XP comes out on kazaa.


Definite version??, there are ready with service pack.
Yep, the Best Answer:

buy the new video card

download a Verified working and virus free Windows XP Pro off kazaa&#33;

:D happy in both ways now

ooo
04-09-2003, 11:09 PM
get a new video card... bytheway how much you spending?

Livy
04-09-2003, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by Soul814@9 April 2003 - 23:09
get a new video card... bytheway how much you spending?
well his post is either xp or a new vid card, so probably about the same as xp cost,
so let me see, its probably gonna be alot. lol. :D

Nightwolf
04-09-2003, 11:58 PM
This is the card I&#39;m considering...

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?...tion=14-130-134 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=14-130-134)

ooo
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ehhh... go w/ ati or asus.. they are better

Nightwolf
04-10-2003, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by Soul814@9 April 2003 - 19:05
ehhh... go w/ ati or asus.. they are better
I know the 9700 is supposed to be good, but I had an ATI card many years ago and it sucked so bad I vowed never to get another card from them again. :unsure:

ooo
04-10-2003, 12:31 AM
well i dont got money... so i only went for an ati 9000 65 dollars in newegg...

right now im ordering from newegg... u know that com that i was gonna buy.... heh... gettin my mom to fill out info

dunno what this is tho

customer purchase
order number

--------------------- <--- therez a box here

For business buyers, if you have a purchase order number, please enter it here:

ooo
04-10-2003, 12:36 AM
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just bought it... processing now.... :P should get through.... now i just need someone to pick it up lolz

Schmiggy_JK23
04-10-2003, 09:03 AM
Why a cd drive, and a cd burner?

decent system. have fun putting it together.

get ur self some thermal paste for your heatsink/processor maybe? artic silver

Livy
04-10-2003, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Schmiggy_JK23@10 April 2003 - 09:03
Why a cd drive, and a cd burner?

decent system. have fun putting it together.

get ur self some thermal paste for your heatsink/processor maybe? artic silver
so that you can do a direct copy. rather than copying to hard drive first.

Spindulik
04-10-2003, 06:36 PM
Choose the VIDEO CARD&#33;

ooo
04-10-2003, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by Spindulik@10 April 2003 - 19:36
Choose the VIDEO CARD&#33;
umm too bad he doesnt like ati anymore....

ATI&#33;&#33;&#33; GO ATI&#33;&#33;&#33;

Schmiggy_JK23
04-11-2003, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Livy@10 April 2003 - 05:43

so that you can do a direct copy. rather than copying to hard drive first.
Obviously that... but that doesnt make the speed of copying that much faster, say over the worth of a dvd rom drive?

That makes much more sense, a dvd rom, and a cd burner.

TRshady
04-11-2003, 11:32 AM
I don&#39;t think there&#39;s ever going to be a need to buy a plain cd-rom drive no more. DVD drives and cd-rewrites are getting so cheap now buying a plain cd-rom would be a waste.

ooo
04-11-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by TRshady@11 April 2003 - 12:32
I don&#39;t think there&#39;s ever going to be a need to buy a plain cd-rom drive no more. DVD drives and cd-rewrites are getting so cheap now buying a plain cd-rom would be a waste.
lolz i bought a plain cd rom drive.... and a cdrw drive...

cdrw are like 50 dollars
cdrom 20 dollars

w/ a cdrom it is easier to copy from cd to cd and reading disc w/ cdrom wont kill your cdrw as quick :P

Supernatural
04-16-2003, 04:24 AM
ATI Radeon 9500 128MB (http://www.compuhq.com/atisara9512d.html) - &#036;147 final price after shipping charges. I would prefer this over a GeForce4 ti 4200.