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{I}{K}{E}
05-13-2005, 12:24 PM
Continuing its war on Internet file-swapping sites, the Motion Picture Association of America said Thursday that it has filed lawsuits against a half-dozen hubs for TV show trading.

The trade association said that piracy of TV programming is growing quickly online, and that shows are as important to protect as big-budget films. This is the first legal action from the group that has focused most heavily on TV content.

"Every television series depends on other markets (such as) syndication and international sales to earn back the enormous investment required to produce the comedies and dramas we all enjoy," MPAA Chief Executive Officer Dan Glickman said in a statement. "Those markets are substantially hurt when that content is stolen."

Source: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5705142.html


Maybe thats why btefnet is offline :unsure:

GepperRankins
05-13-2005, 12:39 PM
:huh: they should just upload them themselves with adverts, because that's what pays for them.

GepperRankins
05-13-2005, 12:54 PM
Continuing its war on Internet file-swapping sites, the Motion Picture Association of America said Thursday that it has filed lawsuits against a half-dozen hubs for TV show trading.

The trade association said that piracy of TV programming is growing quickly online, and that shows are as important to protect as big-budget films. This is the first legal action from the group that has focused most heavily on TV content.

"Every television series depends on other markets (such as) syndication and international sales to earn back the enormous investment required to produce the comedies and dramas we all enjoy," MPAA Chief Executive Officer Dan Glickman said in a statement. "Those markets are substantially hurt when that content is stolen."

Source: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5705142.html


Maybe thats why btefnet is offline :unsure:
"The six sites sued Thursday include ShunTV, Zonatracker, Btefnet, Scifi-Classics, CDDVDHeaven and Bragginrights."

{I}{K}{E}
05-13-2005, 01:19 PM
"The six sites sued Thursday include ShunTV, Zonatracker, Btefnet, Scifi-Classics, CDDVDHeaven and Bragginrights."

How could I miss that :huh:


:P

GepperRankins
05-13-2005, 01:34 PM
what about services like the BBC that's paid for with "TV licenses"? doesn't that mean everyone with a license has a right to download and distribute at their own discretion? i s the channel not owned by me so i can do what i want with the programs?

and with all the other services. if i saw the original program and the adverts with it, haven't i paid my way? can i not now watch it as many times as i want?
if i didn't see the program and i want to, there is most likely no possible way to watch it other than download it.

as it's not something as simple as pay to see it, or don't. i don't think this will stand up in court at all. :unsure:

NikkiD
05-13-2005, 02:28 PM
Guess it's time to hook the PVR up to the computer and do em myself.

Seriously though, I can understand companies getting pissed about dvd releases of TV shows being shared, but something that's on air??? Hell, even dvd releases of shows are re-broadcast daily - any given night I can see at least 5 different episodes of Friends, CSI, Seinfeld, and many many other shows. Give me a break. Even without satellite/cable, with just my antenna I was able to watch most of the shows I wanted to and I didn't pay anything to watch them. And with today's technology, most people have the ability to save these shows to some form of media, PVR, DVD, VCR, TV-IN. What's the difference between me saving a program to my PVR (which incidentally edits out the commercials) and making a copy for my neighbour who missed it, or sending a copy to them via the internet?

Some of the private trackers still host most of the shows, and I'm sure they'll still be widely available via newsgroups, but this is getting bloody ridiculous.

RealitY
05-13-2005, 03:57 PM
I read this yesterday at Slyck also and and as I mentioned there BT just continues to be open game then...

JPaul
05-13-2005, 06:36 PM
Guess it's time to hook the PVR up to the computer and do em myself.

Seriously though, I can understand companies getting pissed about dvd releases of TV shows being shared, but something that's on air??? Hell, even dvd releases of shows are re-broadcast daily - any given night I can see at least 5 different episodes of Friends, CSI, Seinfeld, and many many other shows. Give me a break. Even without satellite/cable, with just my antenna I was able to watch most of the shows I wanted to and I didn't pay anything to watch them. And with today's technology, most people have the ability to save these shows to some form of media, PVR, DVD, VCR, TV-IN. What's the difference between me saving a program to my PVR (which incidentally edits out the commercials) and making a copy for my neighbour who missed it, or sending a copy to them via the internet?

Some of the private trackers still host most of the shows, and I'm sure they'll still be widely available via newsgroups, but this is getting bloody ridiculous.


I totally agree.

Companies have been making video recorders and tapes for years. Now they are making DVD recorders to go with the DVDR and DVDRW.

They are hypocrites. What do they think people do with these things.

Stanners
05-14-2005, 12:03 AM
Btefnet is off Line at the moment but will be back!!
Thank God

Vargas
05-14-2005, 12:17 AM
all of last nights shows seem to be on ed2k today :-)

Adster
05-14-2005, 01:34 AM
i think the MPAA don't want us Australians or Europeans who don't see these American shows or get them 6 months later to download them

really pisses me off

abu_has_the_power
05-14-2005, 01:30 PM
fucking bastards! they're suing btefnet?!?!?! fuck you mpaa!!!

forteagle
05-14-2005, 04:18 PM
Btefnet backup servers should still be working.

Go to Isohunt - search and you should still be able to get what you desire.

maebach
05-15-2005, 04:15 AM
mpaa. . . i still cant believe lokitrorrent and suprnova went down

erRor67
05-15-2005, 06:24 AM
Since the MPAA began its campaign to stomp out piracy in mid-December 2004, their main priority has been BitTorrent indexing sites that distribute movie torrents. As an example of their efforts, the MPAA eradicated such torrent sites as LokiTorrent, leaving only the "You can click, but you cannot hide" catch phrase as remnants. Although the MPAA concentrated mainly on movie piracy, the MPAA has shifted gears as those who distribute TV torrents are now targeted.

In a press release issued today, the MPAA has filed lawsuits against six (6) independent BitTorrent indexing sites. This move comes as little surprise, as many of the MPAA's members also hold considerable interest in TV production as well. In addition, according to a recent survey by Envisional, TV piracy (especially on BitTorrent) has increased by 150%.

“Internet thievery of all creative materials is unacceptable and these thieves need to realize they are not anonymous,” said MPAA President and CEO Dan Glickman.

“There are thousands of people in the entertainment industry who are working to develop, produce, and promote television shows. Those shows and those jobs are worth protecting. Every television series depends on other markets-syndication, international sales – to earn back the enormous investment required to produce the comedies and dramas we all enjoy and those markets are substantially hurt when that content is stolen. On these sites, anyone in the world can download entire television seasons in a single click.”

If we believe the movie industry’s statistics, the MPAA seems to have a better grip on the piracy situation than the RIAA. According to the RIAA, 90% of BitTorrent site operators who have been sued no longer offer torrent files. Also, the MPAA claims that the number of BitTorrent sites in existence has fallen by 40% since mid-December. The RIAA would kill for such numbers.

“Since we began shutting these sites down, the time that it takes to download a file on BitTorrent has increased exponentially which means the experience of downloading copyrighted films and TV shows is not what it used to be,” said Glickman. “We intend to make it even worse. Protecting the television industry is essential.”

This statement seems to contradict the experience many BitTorrent users testify to. Instead, users claim there are actually more torrent sites available and their BitTorrent journey remains on par with earlier experiences – providing they use indexing sites other than today’s targets…

So, who was sued by the MPAA today? Some very familiar faces in the BitTorrent community may be looking at their last days on the Internet.

Shuntv.net: This site has around 10,000 registered users in addition to catalogs TV torrents (or at least had.) The indexing portion of the site is "perm down" and links to the MPAA's press release.

Zonatracker.com: Zonatraker is a small Spanish torrent site, although it indexes many new movies in addition to TV shows. Zonatracker's indexing ability still appears operational.

Btefnet.net: Btefnet is a very large and well known torrent community of over 48,000 registered users. Many have called this community home since the fall of other larger torrent sites. Btefnet's tracker is still online.

Scifi-classics.net: This is a very small torrent site, and looking at the home page one would think the site is virtually dead (considering the last news update was in 2004.) However, the forums are quite active, with copious torrents tucked inside. Scifi's tracker is still online.

Cddvdheaven.co.uk: The MPAA was smart in the way they handled this site, and used its own statistics against it. "This site has over 8000 registered users,
and averaged over 1500 visits a day in March 2005 according to statistics
posted on the site." The tracking ability of this site remains intact.

Bragginrights.biz: This site is big on collecting donations – and probably will be more so in the coming days. "IF THE DONATIONS DO NOT GET ANY BETTER THEN THIS SITE WILL HAVE TO CLOSE." It appears the MPAA was quick to use this against this site, stating "It solicits donations to make money." We'll see how this situation plays out. It also appears the site's tracker is still online.

Since news of the MPAA's lawsuits only recently broke, it remains to be seen what action these sites will take. Although most are online at the moment, it should be expected they will slowly go off line in the coming hours and days.
Source: Slyck (http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=786)

Also, please note that Btefnet.com and Btefnet.net is now owned by new owners. If you go to btefnet.com, you will see a page asking for donations. NO NOT DONATE! The site isnt owned by the same people. Some new person bought the domain and its most likely a scammer.

Remember, DO NOT DONATE TO BTEFNET.COM!! Its not the same owners!

99shassan
05-15-2005, 01:12 PM
all because of tv ads. We do keep up with all new technological products on the internet. People who download TV shows will know about the things that would have been advertised on TV anyway.