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muchspl3
05-27-2005, 07:22 AM
soon :(

lynx
05-27-2005, 08:07 AM
You may be right, but:
By the way, we will NOT shut down the 1st of July.We'll have to wait and see.

muchspl3
05-27-2005, 09:07 AM
New Swedish law closes The Pirate Bay and prohibits Linux-distributions from 1st July 2005

LinuxReviews.org

The Pirate Bay is on of the biggest distribution sites for BitTorrent files. The site distributes torrents files who together with a BitTorrent can be used to download everything spanning from Linux distributions to movies and music owned by Copyright holders who prohibit distribution. The new law also prohibits distribution of software capable of circumventing copyright protection, effectively making the sales of Linux distributions illegal.

The extremely popular web site The Pirate Bay as until now been able to operate very freely under the quite liberal Swedish Copyright laws. This will end on 2005-07-01 when a new Swedish law is put to life as a result of EU harmonization. The new law will mean that distribution, uploading, downloading and copying of movies and music you do not own the right to will become illegal.

The Swedish government will from the same date be forced to prevent a huge number of Linux-distributions as a consequence of the new law which prohibits the sales of software or other tools that can be used to bypass copyright protection. Such protection is found on DVD and 'CD' discs. 'CD' discs with copy protection are actually not real CD's at all, the official CD specification from Philips has no room for such protection. This is why modern so-called CDs can not be used in a huge percentage of the CD players sold today. The DVD specification, on the other hand, has built-in protection against copying and therefore also protection against fair use. A DVD can not be used without special software. There are no such legal software available for Linux.

The Movie Industry has numerous times shown that they think Linux-users demand too much when they demand the right to use the DVD discs they have legally bought on their own entertainment systems. Luckily for us, someone quickly managed to create a nice tool that enables fair use of DVD discs on Linux and others non-standard operating systems. The movie industry responded to this by suing the person who made it possible to view my own, legally bought DVDs on my own system. The Norwegian courts dismissed the case and the code for viewing DVD discs on Linux systems are now a standard component in many main-stream Linux-distributions.

This actually means that the sales of Linux-distributions who include media players like Xine and Mplayer will become illegal when the new Swedish Copyright law goes into effect 1st of July 2005.

Next door to Sweden, the Norwegian government will 11. February 2005 propose a similar copyright law that will make the uploading, downloading and distribution of copyrighted material from the Internet illegal there too. Norway currently prohibits uploading and distribution of such files, but downloading is still legal. The leader of the government department responsible for the proposal, Roy Kristiansen at the media department in 'Culture and Church Department' (Norway, like the USA, still has a huge percentage of the population who are blind sheep following some old, outdated and pure stupid religion) refuses to give any details about the proposal until it has been properly presented to the lawmakers. If this law is as stupid and bad as the one Sweden passed then it may actually mean that the official government-sponsored Linux distribution SkoleLinux, must remove several software packages to keep the distribution legal.

The new Swedish laws will mean that RIAA can sue minors and dead people there too as part of their desperate, already-lost struggle against piracy.

LinuxReviews strongly recommends that Linux-users switch to annonymous file sharing networks like I2P and FreeNet. These programs use tunnels and other techniques which prevents anyone from finding out who is actually doing what on the networks. Both of these prevent anyone from identifying the users (unless they do something stupid, like post their real names or addresses themselves).

There has been many global trials between Freedom Of Speech and Copyright throughout history. Copyright won every round until last years big case of 'Anonymous Peer To Peer' versus 'Big Media Corporations' last year. The introduction of Freenet (and later I2P) finally ended this struggle. Freedom Of Speech won and the technology found in these program have effectively killed Copyright on the Internet. Copyrights only way of appealing this verdict is to make software that enables users to be anonymous illegal. This would, obviously, be a huge attack on Freedom of Speech and Freedom in general and LinuxReviews strongly encourages our readers to ignore any such law if something like that ever gets passed.

http://linuxreviews.org/news/2005/02/10_way_to_go_sweeden/

Joakim Agren
05-27-2005, 09:44 AM
New Swedish law closes The Pirate Bay and prohibits Linux-distributions from 1st July 2005

LinuxReviews.org

The Pirate Bay is on of the biggest distribution sites for BitTorrent files. The site distributes torrents files who together with a BitTorrent can be used to download everything spanning from Linux distributions to movies and music owned by Copyright holders who prohibit distribution. The new law also prohibits distribution of software capable of circumventing copyright protection, effectively making the sales of Linux distributions illegal.

The extremely popular web site The Pirate Bay as until now been able to operate very freely under the quite liberal Swedish Copyright laws. This will end on 2005-07-01 when a new Swedish law is put to life as a result of EU harmonization. The new law will mean that distribution, uploading, downloading and copying of movies and music you do not own the right to will become illegal.

The Swedish government will from the same date be forced to prevent a huge number of Linux-distributions as a consequence of the new law which prohibits the sales of software or other tools that can be used to bypass copyright protection. Such protection is found on DVD and 'CD' discs. 'CD' discs with copy protection are actually not real CD's at all, the official CD specification from Philips has no room for such protection. This is why modern so-called CDs can not be used in a huge percentage of the CD players sold today. The DVD specification, on the other hand, has built-in protection against copying and therefore also protection against fair use. A DVD can not be used without special software. There are no such legal software available for Linux.

The Movie Industry has numerous times shown that they think Linux-users demand too much when they demand the right to use the DVD discs they have legally bought on their own entertainment systems. Luckily for us, someone quickly managed to create a nice tool that enables fair use of DVD discs on Linux and others non-standard operating systems. The movie industry responded to this by suing the person who made it possible to view my own, legally bought DVDs on my own system. The Norwegian courts dismissed the case and the code for viewing DVD discs on Linux systems are now a standard component in many main-stream Linux-distributions.

This actually means that the sales of Linux-distributions who include media players like Xine and Mplayer will become illegal when the new Swedish Copyright law goes into effect 1st of July 2005.

Next door to Sweden, the Norwegian government will 11. February 2005 propose a similar copyright law that will make the uploading, downloading and distribution of copyrighted material from the Internet illegal there too. Norway currently prohibits uploading and distribution of such files, but downloading is still legal. The leader of the government department responsible for the proposal, Roy Kristiansen at the media department in 'Culture and Church Department' (Norway, like the USA, still has a huge percentage of the population who are blind sheep following some old, outdated and pure stupid religion) refuses to give any details about the proposal until it has been properly presented to the lawmakers. If this law is as stupid and bad as the one Sweden passed then it may actually mean that the official government-sponsored Linux distribution SkoleLinux, must remove several software packages to keep the distribution legal.

The new Swedish laws will mean that RIAA can sue minors and dead people there too as part of their desperate, already-lost struggle against piracy.

LinuxReviews strongly recommends that Linux-users switch to annonymous file sharing networks like I2P and FreeNet. These programs use tunnels and other techniques which prevents anyone from finding out who is actually doing what on the networks. Both of these prevent anyone from identifying the users (unless they do something stupid, like post their real names or addresses themselves).

There has been many global trials between Freedom Of Speech and Copyright throughout history. Copyright won every round until last years big case of 'Anonymous Peer To Peer' versus 'Big Media Corporations' last year. The introduction of Freenet (and later I2P) finally ended this struggle. Freedom Of Speech won and the technology found in these program have effectively killed Copyright on the Internet. Copyrights only way of appealing this verdict is to make software that enables users to be anonymous illegal. This would, obviously, be a huge attack on Freedom of Speech and Freedom in general and LinuxReviews strongly encourages our readers to ignore any such law if something like that ever gets passed.

http://linuxreviews.org/news/2005/02/10_way_to_go_sweeden/

Hello!

That site did not get a single right in that article!

TPB will remain as the worlds largest BitTorrent tracker. Nothing is going to change as of July 1'st. The law that will be in effect July 1'st only changes the fact that downlaoding will be illegal just as today for uploading. Also a new tax "Casette Tax" will be introduced on removable media and mp3 players to compensate copyright holders for legal private copying of copyrighted material. Also it becomes against the law to sell or provide tools for prevention of copy protection technologys. However strangely enough the law can not descide how it wants it in the other hand it beomes illegal to circumvent copy protection but in another hand it says that private individuals are allowed to make copys of their own purchased originals. The Swedish Minister of Justice Thomas Bodström realised this and has therfore lately threatened the music industry to remove copy protection so that consumers can copy them or else he might introduce a new law that makes it illegal to have Copy Protections that prevents consumers legal rights to copy. The music industry has responded to that and says that they are currently developing new sorts of protection that will make it possible to copy to another CD or HDD but prevent files from beeing shared online(How in the hell are they going to achieve that one might ask??). Its just ridiculous!!

This new law is very controversial in Sweden as it makes criminals out of 1 million swedes that downloads every day. And polls suggests that nothing will change the swedish people will continue to download stuff and some has even said they will as a protest download and share more. We Swedes have no respect for this new law as we thinks it is just a product of EU lobbying from the large media industry and does not represent the will of the people!

Regarding TBP. It was a few years ago the verdict in the Swedish Supreme Court(Högsta Domstolen) that says that linking or even hot linking to illegal content(with the exception of child porn) is not against the Swedish legislation and therfore TBP will remain and do not breach any copyrights because they do not host any illegal content just hashes(index links) to individual users computers and files. The tracker only manages the connections in the Swarms!!. Basically if they would make the thing that TPB does (managing connections for illegal content) illegal then they would almost make ISP's illegal because they also fascilitate connections to illegal content.

Conclusion TPB is fairly safe and will continue to be open!!.

Regarding RIAA and MPAA they have no jurisdiction in Sweden and cannot prosecute TPB!.

MCHeshPants420
05-27-2005, 10:13 AM
Besides, article is 3 months old.

rzf
05-29-2005, 11:21 AM
Just aslong as TPB will remain open, I will be happeh :D

megatronium
05-30-2005, 05:30 PM
What's TPB all about?

lee551
05-30-2005, 07:34 PM
tpb = the pirate bay. google it. :cool:

sameer0807
05-30-2005, 08:29 PM
I recently started using TPB.....since the site is not in English (well half english), it is sometimes hard to naivigate........but other than that, its a great site! And i hope it remains open..........for long long time!

jang
06-01-2005, 02:52 PM
Take a look

Today the swedish anti-piracy organisations raided The Pirate Bay and confiscated the computers running the tracker. This probably means the end of The Pirate Bay and we, the crew, apologize for all loss of income caused by our activity over the years.

Rick Phlegm
06-01-2005, 03:03 PM
Today the swedish anti-piracy organisations raided The Pirate Bay and confiscated the computers running the tracker. This probably means the end of The Pirate Bay and we, the crew, apologize for all loss of income caused by our activity over the years.

http://www.thepiratebay.org/
That's a shame. Never really used TPB myself, but it was always one of those torrent sites that regarded itself as being untouchable. Doesn't bode well for any other torrent sites out there.

GepperRankins
06-01-2005, 03:07 PM
that sincere apology will save them in court :whistling:

Rick Phlegm
06-01-2005, 03:12 PM
that sincere apology will save them in court :whistling:
:lol: :lol:

That's the impression that I got that that was what they're trying to do. It's a pretty weak attempt at damage limitation.

Storm
06-01-2005, 03:18 PM
from the PiSEXY forum:


There has been a message on their site for the last week that the site was NOT being shut down June 1st...


Edit: And I don't believe there IS a Swedish "Dept. of anti-piracy"...

esoterica
06-01-2005, 03:21 PM
TPB is gone. RIP TPB

EsO

lynx
06-01-2005, 03:22 PM
AFAIK the new laws don't come in to effect until July 1st.

The tracker is definitely down though.

Dark Ride
06-01-2005, 04:03 PM
the site is down because of upgrading.that massage is a joke.they would never appologize.

punk'd :D

MCHeshPants420
06-01-2005, 04:11 PM
TPB is gone. RIP TPB

EsO

Hoax? (http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=811)

RealitY
06-01-2005, 04:13 PM
Seems this one might be a spoof which would be hopefully.
Also none of this should affect them according to theory.
Seems it is a hoax at this point...


ThePirateBay in its typical humor is playing a bit of a hoax on the BitTorrent community. Many have been mislead into believing the Swedish copyright enforcement organization, Antipiratbyran, is responsible for removing ThePirateBay's indexing abilities. According to chat taking place on their IRC channel, this is just a hoax and the site should be up in a few hours after some server upgrades. So those worrying about loosing their favorite BitTorrent site have nothing to fear, at least not yet.
http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=811

rzf
06-01-2005, 05:04 PM
TPB is gone. RIP TPB

EsO

Hoax? (http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=811)

Not confirmed?

Filliz
06-01-2005, 05:49 PM
It's a hoax :lol:
Have a look at their homepage now.
They changed it again.

Joakim Agren
06-01-2005, 05:52 PM
Hello!

It was just a joke! I spoke yesterday with Anakata(the boss) and he told me they where upgrading to version 2 today that is going to have a Google like appearence.

And as you can se now it appears he was honest and are really introducing a Google interface for TPB!!. :01: :w00t: :yahoo:

RealitY
06-01-2005, 05:57 PM
Im moving this back now...

pu43x
06-01-2005, 06:16 PM
are you sure. how long will it be down for? :(

pu43x
06-01-2005, 06:21 PM
i hope it aint going to be closed! was a good site

Formula1
06-01-2005, 06:43 PM
Yup TPB is gone. I never downloaded from there though. Thank god I have torrent-damage.

RPerry
06-01-2005, 07:12 PM
Yup TPB is gone. I never downloaded from there though. Thank god I have torrent-damage.

I wouldn't bet on them being gone just yet, everyone be patient for a few hrs and see what happens, I'm willing to bet they will be back up :rolleyes:

orcutt989
06-01-2005, 07:29 PM
Can someone provide the link to The Pirate Bay? When I get it all i get is this weird German page with nothing to click on it, and then all of these "frame" pages that load over and over again, nothing. Thanks :)

sameer0807
06-01-2005, 07:43 PM
"Nu kanske du undrar varför vi gjorde så här?
Vi ville bara göra er uppmärksamma på att The Pirate Bay snart kommer i en ny version."

What does that mean?

abu_has_the_power
06-01-2005, 08:23 PM
TPB's not going anywhere!

http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran?url=http%3A%2F%2F&type=text&text=Nu+kanske+du+undrar+varf%F6r+vi+gjorde+s%E5+h%E4r%3F%0D%0AVi+ville+bara+g%F6ra+er+uppm%E4rksamma+p%E5+att+The+Pirate+Bay+snart+kommer+i+en+ny+version.&from=swe&to=eng


Nu kanske du undrar varför vi gjorde så här?
Vi ville bara göra er uppmärksamma på att The Pirate Bay snart kommer i en ny version.
means

Now maybe yous am wondering whys we did it so here? We would only make yourself aware on that The Pirate Bay soon am arriving in an fresh version.

they're coming back with a google-like interface!!
:naughty: :naughty: :naughty:

Joakim Agren
06-01-2005, 08:51 PM
are you sure. how long will it be down for? :(


Hello!

I can confirm as I said in my post above that it was just a joke!!

TPB will return this night or early morning tomorrow!!

Happy sharers just be patient!! :frusty: :naughty: :01: :yahoo:

rzf
06-01-2005, 09:09 PM
Now you may wonder why we did this?
We just wanted to make you aware of that there will be a new version of piratebay soon.

Buggers... they changed their frontpage :dry:

lynx
06-01-2005, 09:49 PM
Tracker is back up now.

Rick Phlegm
06-01-2005, 10:39 PM
They won't be laughing so hard when the feds raid them for real. :dry:

/plays the 'Cops' theme tune

sameer0807
06-01-2005, 11:09 PM
never really used PB....but i m exicted abt their new look...

maebach
06-02-2005, 02:05 AM
Ive always wanted to use it but tthe german mixed is a bit hard to understand and use.

sameer0807
06-02-2005, 03:16 AM
Ive always wanted to use it but tthe german mixed is a bit hard to understand and use.
yep..agreed! It can sometimes be really hard to navigate and all....but once u start using Pb, u will know, its not really that hard as it seems.....

Joakim Agren
06-02-2005, 03:28 AM
Ive always wanted to use it but tthe german mixed is a bit hard to understand and use.
Hello!

German mixed??

It is a Swedish tracker and the language is Swedish mixed with English!.


Regarding the tracker status I was just informed they are experiencing some technical difficulties and are abit late and will return as soon as the problem is solved!!. But the announce server is fully functional again!!

DrTroy47
06-02-2005, 04:14 AM
German!?!?

N00b alert! Come on everyone knows it's in Sweden! ;)

No offense, just kidding...

sameer0807
06-02-2005, 05:01 AM
German!?!?

N00b alert! Come on everyone knows it's in Sweden! ;)

No offense, just kidding...

haha..

muchspl3
06-02-2005, 06:55 AM
interesting

GepperRankins
06-02-2005, 09:08 AM
http://piratebay.org/lensmannen.jpg

sameer0807
06-02-2005, 09:47 AM
http://piratebay.org/lensmannen.jpg
lol...is that even for real? I mean who wrote that?

Money Fist
06-02-2005, 10:32 AM
Pirate bay is cool
it has a crazy sweedish guy that tells people to sodomize them selfs with retractable battons if they dont like the idea of torrents

escobar
06-02-2005, 11:40 AM
http://piratebay.org/lensmannen.jpg
lol...is that even for real? I mean who wrote that?

it was on their front page, which doesnt seem to be working now

sameer0807
06-02-2005, 06:24 PM
lol...is that even for real? I mean who wrote that?

it was on their front page, which doesnt seem to be working now

really? damn i missed it!
oh man that swedish guy is awesome.....now i have even more respect for him.

Joakim Agren
06-02-2005, 06:48 PM
Hello!

I have been given the job by Anakata(the boss) to spread the word that v2 of The Pirate bay is now open!

"Due to revolutionary code and layout TPB have become alot faster and more userfriendly then before. Also the tracker have become internationalised and now supports 10 languages plus Swedish.

The userfriendlines and the new functions on The Pirate Bay 2.0 will introduce the BitTorrent protocoll to the wide public. In the contrary to the large media companys we se it as our duty to spread new technology to as many as possible says Fredrik Neij( another of the The Legal Threats guys, Respect man :01: ) on The Pirate Bay.

Besides the new code and layout The Pirate Bay have gone through an extensive Internationalisation process. The Site have support for 10 languages besides Swedish and the translators are continously working on more. Users from any of the 11 language regions will autmatically get their respective official languange as default.

Today the technological development often goes faster then the cultural. But neither language barriers nor the Copyright industrys war on technology will stop the people from taking part in th new technology and culture, says anakata on The Pirate bay


Further more new categorys have made searches easier and more effective. In a near future this will mean a greater freedom for subscribers on the Trackers RSS-Flows. And The Pirate Bays team of developers are continuing to work on new functions to simplify life for users all over the world!!.

The Pirate Bay Team!!

So happy filesharers just jump on and share the hell out of the Copyright Industry!!. :naughty: :01: :boxing: :yahoo:

http://www.thepiratebay.org/

RPerry
06-02-2005, 07:03 PM
when visiting that link, all I get is :


Nu kanske du undrar varför vi gjorde så här?
Vi ville bara göra er uppmärksamma på att The Pirate Bay snart kommer i en ny version.

:blink:

Joakim Agren
06-02-2005, 07:33 PM
when visiting that link, all I get is :


Nu kanske du undrar varför vi gjorde så här?
Vi ville bara göra er uppmärksamma på att The Pirate Bay snart kommer i en ny version.

:blink:

Hello!

We're experiencing some issues with the database. Please try again soon :ohmy:

So be patient it will be up again soon!!

bobcntsa
06-04-2005, 08:07 AM
I hope too :)

sameer0807
06-04-2005, 08:27 AM
I hope too :)
site is up now....

Voetsek
06-04-2005, 04:39 PM
http://thepiratebay.org/

hugh.jeego
06-04-2005, 09:43 PM
TPB is the best. its better than torrentspy, even before version 2, and it alays seems to have more seeders. you swedes just keep on giving!!!

spelunker121
06-06-2005, 02:52 AM
http://thepiratebay.org/

And its in English....Yeah!

DrTroy47
06-06-2005, 04:39 AM
This may not last so long.

While he still has the defense argument that .torrent files are not copyrighted content, I doubt this Fredrik kid who runs this incredibly good website (2.0 is just amazing!) may be able to keep The Pirate Bay online for much longer.

This is from a couple weeks ago: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050525/film_nm/media_sweden_dc

Let me quote the whole article though:


STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Sweden's parliament approved a law on Wednesday that bans the downloading of copyrighted material such as films and music from the Internet after being singled out for criticism by Hollywood.

Sweden had until now allowed downloading of files, while uploading, or putting material on the Web, was illegal.

Actor Morgan Freeman, in a Reuters interview, recently cited Sweden as an example of a country where illegal peer-to-peer file-sharing was a growing problem.

The Swedish parliament's decision, which comes into effect July 1, aims to change that.

"The decision means that a clear ban has been introduced against downloading music, pictures and other material on the Internet for private use without the copyright holder's permission," parliament said in a statement.

Anyone breaking the law can be ordered to pay damages.

The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), which represents the U.S. film industry, had in March hailed a raid by police on a company hosting Internet servers as a major blow against piracy in Sweden.

The MPAA said the authorities seized four computer servers -- one reputed to be the biggest pirate server in Europe -- containing enough digital film and music content for up to 3-1/2 years of uninterrupted play, the organization said.

It added that authorities in Scandinavian countries had been reluctant to take such action in the past.

The MPAA says the film industry loses $3.5 billion a year to videotapes and DVDs sold on the black market, but it has no estimate for how much Internet piracy costs the industry.

The new Swedish law allows people to make one copy of a CD for personal use and to make copies of newspaper articles.

How the hell is Mr. Fredrik "Pirate Bay" Whatever-his-last-name-is gonna keep running that site? Seriously...

I guess we'll see.

Here's some commentary on this: http://linuxreviews.org/news/2005/02/10_way_to_go_sweeden/

And the last guy to comment there says the Pirate Bay will not be shut down on July 1st.

Personally I don't think it'll make it past September. Unfortunately the Swedes are now the whores of the MPAA and entertainment industries (and the USA, more importantly), like so many other European countries.

Money Fist
06-06-2005, 06:11 AM
Who wants to buy the fax TPB staff sent to Web Sheriff in response to legal threats

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6402620060

thats the original copy being sold on Ebay
so far its at US $102.50 with 2 days left
:lol:

sameer0807
06-06-2005, 06:35 AM
Who wants to buy the fax TPB staff sent to Web Sheriff in response to legal threats

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6402620060

thats the original copy being sold on Ebay
so far its at US $102.50 with 2 days left
:lol:

lmfao...this has to be the funniest thing ever!

RealitY
06-06-2005, 06:39 AM
Funny Shit...

GepperRankins
06-06-2005, 06:57 AM
i knida feel sorry for the pirate bay people. when they get caught up with, and they will. they're seriously fucked and all these letters will come back to haunt them :pinch:

RPerry
06-06-2005, 08:21 AM
i knida feel sorry for the pirate bay people. when they get caught up with, and they will. they're seriously fucked and all these letters will come back to haunt them :pinch:

Probably not, cause at the time they set them, they are 100% legal :)

sameer0807
06-06-2005, 09:07 PM
as long as Swedish law doesn't change for p2p (which it will soon), PB is pretty safe...and of-course legal as well.

Citizenhaax
06-07-2005, 02:06 AM
I do wish that PB would add some more filtering capability. That aside though it is much faster than before.