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keyser_soze
06-15-2005, 07:51 PM
If you read my other post you might know I'm shopping for a decent graphic card, problem is I don't know anything about them so any advice on what to get would be appreciated I'm looking for something in the £100-£200 bracket as my budget. so let me know if you've spotted any good deals.

Snee
06-15-2005, 08:10 PM
The 6600GTs are nice, with 256 megs of RAM (preferably) and pixel shader 3 (for future-proofing). They are relatively easy on the psu, cheap, and still decent performers.

As brands go, I like Gainward. Naturally it isn't the only good brand, but it's my favourite atm.

Plain 6800s or 6800LE are good too.

You can even get a Gainward 6800GT with 256 megs of RAM for just above £200 here (http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/kl.asp?bn=10413) and it prolly isn't the cheapest uk-site there is, either.

If you feel like going with ATi the x800SEs are in your range, as are the x700s.

Dark Steno
06-15-2005, 08:18 PM
6600GT with SLi... :D

keyser_soze
06-15-2005, 10:21 PM
How confusing can it get I started drifting towards the ati's then back to the nvidia cards every time I read a review I was put off buying it seems that even though the cards have the same basic chip a lot can depend on the maker of the card :unsure: I was convinced to get the 6800gt then I read this....

Nvidia is recommending a 480W power supply, which is almost enough to run a small country. SFF cases don't have the power and most towers won't be shipped with such a meaty power supply. This could scupper some of Nvidia's sales.
What a minefield :ohmy:

lynx
06-15-2005, 10:53 PM
You should probably check on the date of articles like that, they are probably about a year old when the 6800s were in pre-release. The power consumption figures have been dramatically revised since then.

Snee
06-15-2005, 10:54 PM
While that review was written by an ignoramus- a lot of sff machines (shuttle or iWill, for instance) can run a 6800GT card, by virtue of having excellent psus (even though they might be specced at as low as 250w) and somewhat less power-demanding motherboards- I wouldn't recommend less than a 400w supply from a good brand (for example Fortron or Antec) if you don't have one of the aforementioned machines. You'll do all right with a good psu @300(possibly)-350w(definitely) and a 6600gt or x700, though.

In fact, you should really consider getting a good psu anyway, if you don't have one already.

Having a bad one die on you can be expensive.

keyser_soze
06-15-2005, 11:32 PM
As it happens m8 that link for the 6800gt prolly is the best price at the minute for that card, I've searched all I know for about 4 hours and no1's beat it yet, I am fancying this card but the bulkiness of the fan case unnerves me :unsure: I've came up with some posts about ppl having to modify it to get it to fit thier board. I hav'nt came up with any concerning my asus a7n8x-e deluxe so Im tempted to purchase, I guess I'll have to take a chance on my psu for :unsure: anyway £215 is the best price upto now. :)

peat moss
06-15-2005, 11:53 PM
Saw this today, the new Geforce 7800 . only $500 TO $600 american ?
Ouch ! :rolleyes:

http://news.zdnet.com/Nvidia+graphics+chip+to+debut+at+game+bash/2100-1040_22-5748337.html?part=netscape-zdnet&tag=mynetscape&subj=technews



I like this quote :

"Whatever the price, this is not going to be an inexpensive board," Peddie said, noting that traditionally, Nvidia customers are 17- to 35-year-old males with disposable income. "I don't think people realize how delighted these guys are whenever a new graphics chip comes out...the first thing that they do is try to get the PC to go faster and the second thing they do is make the graphics look better."


Does that describe most of us ? :lol:

keyser_soze
06-16-2005, 12:13 AM
Does that describe most of us ? it does tonights anyway. :D

the first thing that they do is try to get the PC to go faster and the second thing they do is make the graphics look better." The next thing I usually do is a reformat ;)

Snee
06-16-2005, 11:39 AM
Saw this today, the new Geforce 7800 . only $500 TO $600 american ?
Ouch ! :rolleyes:

http://news.zdnet.com/Nvidia+graphics+chip+to+debut+at+game+bash/2100-1040_22-5748337.html?part=netscape-zdnet&tag=mynetscape&subj=technews



I like this quote :

"Whatever the price, this is not going to be an inexpensive board," Peddie said, noting that traditionally, Nvidia customers are 17- to 35-year-old males with disposable income. "I don't think people realize how delighted these guys are whenever a new graphics chip comes out...the first thing that they do is try to get the PC to go faster and the second thing they do is make the graphics look better."


Does that describe most of us ? :lol:
The 7800s seem brilliant, but I wouldn't buy one for a long time yet, 'cos of the price, and the allegedly massive power-drain

I wonder if there'll be an agp version at all :unsure:
Some say the 6000 series was as good as it gets for agp.

peat moss
06-16-2005, 12:45 PM
There's some pics and specs here :


http://www.nforcershq.com/article3212.html

lynx
06-16-2005, 02:43 PM
Saw this today, the new Geforce 7800 . only $500 TO $600 american ?
Ouch ! :rolleyes:

http://news.zdnet.com/Nvidia+graphics+chip+to+debut+at+game+bash/2100-1040_22-5748337.html?part=netscape-zdnet&tag=mynetscape&subj=technews



I like this quote :

"Whatever the price, this is not going to be an inexpensive board," Peddie said, noting that traditionally, Nvidia customers are 17- to 35-year-old males with disposable income. "I don't think people realize how delighted these guys are whenever a new graphics chip comes out...the first thing that they do is try to get the PC to go faster and the second thing they do is make the graphics look better."


Does that describe most of us ? :lol:
The 7800s seem brilliant, but I wouldn't buy one for a long time yet, 'cos of the price, and the allegedly massive power-drain

I wonder if there'll be an agp version at all :unsure:
Some say the 6000 series was as good as it gets for agp.The 6600's are PCI-express chips with a converter to allow them to run on AGP. I see no reason why they can't do the same with the 7000 series, except that the AGP bus may not be regarded as fast enough.

Snee
06-17-2005, 12:13 PM
except that the AGP bus may not be regarded as fast enough.
That would be the reason that was referred to as making it pointless, but on the other hand, like I've said elsewhere, the agp version of the 6600GT, clocked at the exact same speeds as the pci-e version, performs better, so clearly the bus-speeds are enough for that series of cards. The question is how much more demanding the 7000 series will turn out to be, in reality.

Adster
06-17-2005, 12:28 PM
I'm more of a ati fan

i have a radoen 700 that was $350 Australian Dollars which would be about $200 US

it really depends on the games wether to go with Nivida or ATI

keyser_soze
06-17-2005, 09:30 PM
An e-friend told me that I could blag a game into thinking that my card was compatible by using this piece of software http://www.3dcenter.de/downloads/3d-analyze.php I can't work out out to use it as the site is in German :( Have I been misinformed or is this app worth investigating further?