Applying Thermal Paste

[S!X]

Well, Times winding down before I go to florida and get all the sexy hardware you can image for my new comp. This might sound like a n00b question but ive never done it before, so could some1 please explain how-to and any pointers/precautions would be good also :)

[Mivaro]

Well, Times winding down before I go to florida and get all the sexy hardware you can image for my new comp. This might sound like a n00b question but ive never done it before, so could some1 please explain how-to and any pointers/precautions would be good also :)


Check this link (http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions_big2.htm)

[lynx]

If you are getting the retail cpu it will come with a pad already attached to the heatsink, so you don't need paste unless you absolutely insist on using it.

If you do want to use paste, you have to remove the pad first. Scrape it off with something soft - an old credit card or something which won't scratch the base of the heatsink - then thoroughly clean it with a solvent such as rubbing alcohol.

For applying the new paste to 939 processors (or any processor with a heat spreader), I find the best way is to apply a tiny speck in each corner of the heat spreader, then put the heatsink in place (without fastening the clips). Remove the heatsink and you can see where the processor will touch it.

Now put a small drop of paste in the middle, then spread it to cover the contact area. Work it in to fill any microscopic pits in the surface of the heatsink - a piece if kitchen roll is ok for this. Don't use your finger - it has grease on it. When you've finished you should hardly know that there's any paste on there.

Now go back to the processor, and apply a very thin film to the top of the heat spreader - that old credit card it useful again (as long as you cleaned it). Put the heatsink in place (still without fastening the clips) then twist it a few degrees in each direction. Remove it and check that you've got even coverage of the paste over the contact area. You can even slide the heatsink around a couple of millimetres if necessary. Note - don't do this on processors without a heat spreader - you may damage the core.

If the layer is thin enough you will probably be ably to see the writing on the heat spreader through the paste. Once you are happy with it put the heatsink in place any fasten the clips.

You can leave it at this point if you wish, but I like to go a little further. I usually remove the heatsink again. The contact area is easy to see, and around the edge there will probably be a ridge of paste which has been forced out. I like to clean off this excess paste (and any around the heat spreader on the cpu) but it can be a bit fiddly and probably doesn't give any benefits. It just looks better next time the heatsink is removed.

[S!X]

Thx for your replies, Very helpful. I plan on getting one of these badboys

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/mini-freezer.jpg

(Arctic Cooling Freezer64), I dont plan on using the stock heatsink/fan. Since clocker has one of these maybe this might be a good question for him :blink:

[clocker]

Lynx's explanation was as succinct and comprehensive as could be.
I have nothing to add but this warning....

Because the new AMD chips have the integrated heat spreader (unlike the bare core Athlons) there is quite a lot of contact area between the sink and the CPU.
With the thermal paste properly applied the HS has a very good grip (suction, almost) on the CPU.
If you are going to do as Lynx suggested and remove the sink a few times, watch out you don't rip the chip/HS combo right out of the socket.

Hold the HS flat as you release the cam-lock arm.
With the retention brackets free, rotate the heatsink in a circular fashion to break the seal between the HS and the chip, then remove it.

The pins on the 939 chips are much thinner and more fragile than older chips and will not tolerate the handling that a socketA CPU would.
These pins tend to break off rather than bend.

In case you didn't know...that's a BAD thing.

[S!X]

Lynx's explanation was as succinct and comprehensive as could be.
I have nothing to add but this warning....

Because the new AMD chips have the integrated heat spreader (unlike the bare core Athlons) their is quite a lot of contact area between the sink and the CPU.
With the thermal paste properly applied the HS has a very good grip (suction, almost) on the CPU.
If you are going to do as Lynx suggested and remove the sink a few times, watch out you don't rip the chip/HS combo right out of the socket.

Alright, lynx's explination is kinda hard for me to understand. Would it work if you just put a little bit in the middle and spread it around with a bag on your hand, and then put the HS/F on? like in that link Mivaro posted?

[clocker]

I put a few small drops of Arctic Silver on the chip and use a single sided razor blade to spread it to a fine coating.
The excess that gathers on the blade I then spread on the base of the HS.

I then clamp the HSF down and call it a day.

[S!X]

I put a few small drops of Arctic Silver on the chip and use a single sided razor blade to spread it to a fine coating.
The excess that gathers on the blade I then spread on the base of the HS.

I then clamp the HSF down and call it a day.

Thats interesting, and it works perfectly? The razor doesnt screw up the chip? :( :ermm: And how THIN does the layer have to be? :ermm:

[clocker]

Thats interesting, and it works perfectly? The razor doesnt screw up the chip? :( :ermm: And how THIN does the layer have to be? :ermm:
Of course not.
You hold the blade ( or the credit card) at an angle ( approx. 45 degrees) and just pull it across the CPU...you're NOT gouging into the metal.
Like icing a cake, really.

How thick the layer must be depends on how flat your surfaces are.
It's likely that the Arctic Freezer will be fine, but I've read/seen that the heatspreader on the AMD chips is not particularly flat.
Some people lap their chips, others remove the heatspreader altogether.

[S!X]

Thats interesting, and it works perfectly? The razor doesnt screw up the chip? :( :ermm: And how THIN does the layer have to be? :ermm:
Of course not.
You hold the blade ( or the credit card) at an angle ( approx. 45 degrees) and just pull it across the CPU...you're NOT gouging into the metal.
Like icing a cake, really.

How thick the layer must be depends on how flat your surfaces are.
It's likely that the Arctic Freezer will be fine, but I've read/seen that the heatspreader on the AMD chips is not particularly flat.
Some people lap their chips, others remove the heatspreader altogether.

So how would you know if you have too much on? If you put the HSF on and a whole bunch of it comes our the sides? :blink:

[clocker]

Pretty much, yes.

[S!X]

Pretty much, yes.

Alright thats cool, Im not that stupid to put too much on then :lol:

[clocker]

"Too much" is really not possible....the excess will simply squeeze out under the mounting pressure of the heatsink.

We'll see just how smart you are in a few weeks when this project gets underway, won't we?

Good luck.

[S!X]

"Too much" is really not possible....the excess will simply squeeze out under the mounting pressure of the heatsink.

We'll see just how smart you are in a few weeks when this project gets underway, won't we?

Good luck.

Thanks, Im bound to run into trouble somewhere.. Thats where your computer expertise comes in :D :) :cool:

[clocker]

Thanks, Im bound to run into trouble somewhere.. Thats where your computer expertise comes in :D :) :cool:
You'd better hope that Lynx and VB are around then or you're in deep poop. :P

[S!X]

Thanks, Im bound to run into trouble somewhere.. Thats where your computer expertise comes in :D :) :cool:
You'd better hope that Lynx and VB are around then or you're in deep poop. :P

:blink: You refuse to help? :cry:

[clocker]

That's not what I said, is it?
I simply meant that making use of the shared wealth of info available here means not relying on one person alone.
Besides, I seem to have become more aggressively tangental of late (must cut back on the drugs...) and both Lynx and VB (especially VB!) are more focused.

You'll want to know about installing a SATA drive and I'll be nattering away about "metric electricity" or some such nonsense.

[S!X]

That's not what I said, is it?
I simply meant that making use of the shared wealth of info available here means not relying on one person alone.
Besides, I seem to have become more aggressively tangental of late (must cut back on the drugs...) and both Lynx and VB (especially VB!) are more focused.

You'll want to know about installing a SATA drive and I'll be nattering away about "metric electricity" or some such nonsense.

:rolleyes: Anyhelp is goodhelp.

[clocker]

Ask me anything at all about metric electricity then.

[S!X]

Ask me anything at all about metric electricity then.

I dont need help with that.... :rolleyes:

[Virtualbody1234]

Ask me anything at all about metric electricity then.

I dont need help with that.... :rolleyes:
Yeah! You're Canadian. You know the metric system.

[lynx]

Ask me anything at all about metric electricity then.

I dont need help with that.... :rolleyes:
You are an expert on the subject?

I would have asked clocker about it but his replies can get a little esoteric at times. :lookaroun

[clocker]

I would have asked clocker about it but his replies can get a little esoteric at times. :lookaroun
Only "a little"?
Damn.

I was shooting for "completely irrelevant".

[S!X]

I dont like lectures lynx thats why I chose not to ask.

[Smith]

Thx for your replies, Very helpful. I plan on getting one of these badboys

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/mini-freezer.jpg

(Arctic Cooling Freezer64), I dont plan on using the stock heatsink/fan. Since clocker has one of these maybe this might be a good question for him :blink:


wow that thing is massive, it looks like the heatsink from my weedeater :P

[S!X]

Thx for your replies, Very helpful. I plan on getting one of these badboys

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/mini-freezer.jpg

(Arctic Cooling Freezer64), I dont plan on using the stock heatsink/fan. Since clocker has one of these maybe this might be a good question for him :blink:


wow that thing is massive, it looks like the heatsink from my weedeater :P

:rolleyes: Since when does your weedeater have a heatsink? LOL.

[Smith]

wow that thing is massive, it looks like the heatsink from my weedeater :P

:rolleyes: Since when does your weedeater have a heatsink? LOL.

http://www.pocketracer.com.au/images/guess%20the%20size%202.jpg
also known as "cooling fins"

its a crappy pic, but you get the idea.

EDIt: better pic http://www.cas4.com/cc/engine/complete100cu/revtech-detail-03.jpg

this one isnt a weed eater engine, but you get the point

[clocker]

http://www.cas4.com/cc/engine/complete100cu/revtech-detail-03.jpg

this one isnt a weed eater engine, but you get the point
That appears to be some sort of Harley-like engine.

Perfectly suited to a weed whacker...pure crap in a motorcycle.