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(>Zero Cool<)
06-20-2005, 10:13 PM
sorry young fella, nothing against you personally though you should have known better, but gonna get it to fuck :angry:

i did try to ask you earlier but it's still there :unsure:

i could block you or pm a mod but figured i should just air my views.

if it isn't removed perhaps someone could tell me why it is acceptable

GepperRankins
06-20-2005, 10:33 PM
what's so offensive about it?


gawd!
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages2/picnapoleon.jpg

(>Zero Cool<)
06-20-2005, 10:36 PM
what's so offensive about it?


gawd!
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages2/picnapoleon.jpg

fair enough let him keep it

MODS please delete / close this thread

GepperRankins
06-20-2005, 10:39 PM
wtf?


really though, it's not that bad. it breaks no rules or anything. it just states his oppinion that EA are an aggressive publisher that treat their workers terribly and are going the right way about ruining the games industry through take-overs and the like

manker
06-20-2005, 10:47 PM
A swastika symbolises an ideology that is offensive to all. Since WWII at least.

I wouldn't report TheCanuk for using it in his sig simply because he's expressing himself and I don't wish to stop him doing it in the way he wants. I reserve the right to think he's a cawk, but that's about it.

I can, however, see that some will be sensitive to seeing it and would wish a mod to remove it. That's a matter for them.

GepperRankins
06-20-2005, 10:50 PM
i can't see how it's offensive. it's not promoting the nazi party or anything. if anything it's saying it's bad, it's using it as an example of the worst thing imaginable.

immature maybe, but offensive? - no


IMO

JPaul
06-20-2005, 10:55 PM
The only thing it says to me is that he is a pathetic wee nobhead.

However I object to the fact that it has not been deleted, because that makes a comment about the forum, rather than the sad wee boy who posted the thing.

MCHeshPants420
06-20-2005, 10:55 PM
I just thought thought that canuk was wishing them good luck with the ancient Hindu symbol...

JPaul
06-20-2005, 10:56 PM
I just thought thought that canuk was wishing them good luck with the ancient Hindu symbol...
:git:

Afronaut
06-20-2005, 10:59 PM
http://home.ripway.com/2005-5/307809/billgates.jpg

Now, thats almost funneh.

GepperRankins
06-20-2005, 11:01 PM
http://home.ripway.com/2005-5/307809/billgates.jpg

Now, thats almost funneh.
do we find this offensive, jp, zero?

manker
06-20-2005, 11:03 PM
http://home.ripway.com/2005-5/307809/billgates.jpg

Now, thats almost funneh.
do we find this offensive, jp, zero?I don't get it :blink:

Afronaut
06-20-2005, 11:04 PM
Swastika,
It is illegal only in: Germany, France, Italy, Israel, Hungary. But even in Germany it is legal in historical regard, schooling, art, science etc.

Swastika is legal symbol in 99 countries of 100, including... Britain, Finland, Nordic Countries, all of Asia, Japan, China, Russia, USA, Canada and so on.

It is only against the law of a few countries, but completely legal and still largely used in many nations, even in whole cultures and continents.

True or false?

Afronaut
06-20-2005, 11:06 PM
In our forums, it takes about a report to be removed.
Atleast, thats what I've done in the past concerning offensive sigs.

MCHeshPants420
06-20-2005, 11:07 PM
it's a metaphor. geddit?

Hyperbolism :busymanworddropping:

(>Zero Cool<)
06-20-2005, 11:07 PM
http://home.ripway.com/2005-5/307809/billgates.jpg

Now, thats almost funneh.
do we find this offensive, jp, zero?

yeah i do if you want to know, but that is just my opinion. you are welcome to disagree

GepperRankins
06-20-2005, 11:09 PM
can you actually find any reason for it to be removed?

i just see a knee-jerk reaction from people trained to find it offensive and can't see through the forced on red mist to put it in context.

Afronaut
06-20-2005, 11:10 PM
can you actually find any reason for it to be removed?

i just see a knee-jerk reaction from people trained to find it offensive and can't see through the forced on red mist to put it in context.

Well, maybe someone just finds it offensive, is all.

Why you're getting your knees jerked about it?

GepperRankins
06-20-2005, 11:11 PM
i think it's the heat :ermm:

JPaul
06-20-2005, 11:14 PM
i just see a knee-jerk reaction from people trained to find it offensive and can't see through the forced on red mist to put it in context.
Read the works of George Santayana with regard to the past.

(>Zero Cool<)
06-20-2005, 11:14 PM
can you actually find any reason for it to be removed?

i just see a knee-jerk reaction from people trained to find it offensive and can't see through the forced on red mist to put it in context.


i'm not even gonna argue with you. i find it offensive, though you seem to think it's fine to the extent of now using it in your own sig. each to their own. this is why i didn't report it as making this thread would give others the chance to agree or disagree with my feelings.

edit for typo

GepperRankins
06-20-2005, 11:15 PM
jp

can you sum it up? please :lookaroun

JPaul
06-20-2005, 11:16 PM
jp

can you sum it up? please :lookaroun
Yes

brotherdoobie
06-21-2005, 12:45 AM
jp

can you sum it up? please :lookaroun

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Peace bd

GepperRankins
06-21-2005, 12:50 AM
ah! so mentioning it is forgetting it? :huh:

Spicker
06-21-2005, 12:56 AM
Well being a grade 10 student who has an history exam on friday this thread could not have come at a better time :pinch:

well i would not have that sig if i were u...

maybe this can convince u...


The swastika is an extremely powerful symbol. Though the Nazis used it to murder millions of people , for centuries it had positive meanings. What is the history of the swastika? Does it now represent good or evil?
http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swastika/a/swastikahistory.htm


Hitler and the Nazis

In 1920, Adolf Hitler decided that the Nazi Party needed its own insignia and flag. For Hitler, the new flag had to be "a symbol of our own struggle" as well as "highly effective as a poster." (Mein Kampf, pg. 495)

On August 7, 1920, at the Salzburg Congress, this flag became the official emblem of the Nazi Party.

In Mein Kampf, Hitler described the Nazis' new flag: "In red we see the social idea of the movement, in white the nationalistic idea, in the swastika the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man, and, by the same token, the victory of the idea of creative work, which as such always has been and always will be anti-Semitic." (pg. 496-497)

Because of the Nazis' flag, the swastika soon became a symbol of hate, antisemitism, violence, death, and murder.
Holocaust:

The destruction of some 6 million Jews by the Nazis and their followers in Europe between the years 1933-1945. Other individuals and groups were persecuted and suffered grievously during this period, but only the Jews were marked for complete and utter extinction. The term "Holocaust" - literally meaning "a completely burned sacrifice" - tends to suggest a sacrificial connotation to what occurred. The word Shoah, originally a Biblical term meaning widespread disaster, is the modern Hebrew equivalent.

http://history.grand-forks.k12.nd.us/ndhistory/LessonImages/Sources/Pictures/holocaust%201.jpg
http://history.grand-forks.k12.nd.us/ndhistory/LessonImages/Sources/Pictures/holocaust%202.jpg

im pretty sure GepperRankins already know all of the stuff....i think... :01:

muchspl3
06-21-2005, 01:03 AM
I thought the Holocaust was a myth

brotherdoobie
06-21-2005, 01:05 AM
ah! so mentioning it is forgetting it? :huh:

Taking it lightly,and equating a manufacture of video games,to a regime that
killed 6 million people for no other reason ...than the Jewish blood that ran in their veins...is Dave.

Peace bd

brotherdoobie
06-21-2005, 01:07 AM
I thought the Holocaust was a myth

Really...or are you just being facetious...:dry:

Peace bd

Spicker
06-21-2005, 01:11 AM
I thought the Holocaust was a myth
:ohmy:

Wtf ur kidding me right?

how could possibly say that :blink:

brotherdoobie
06-21-2005, 01:16 AM
I thought the Holocaust was a myth
:ohmy:

Wtf ur kidding me right?

how could possibly say that :blink:

Many educated people believe the Holocaust,was a myth...there are numerous web sites dedicated to this absurd "myth". :rolleyes:

It's a shame.

Peace bd

peat moss
06-21-2005, 01:21 AM
Is it not a North American Aboriginal sign aswell ? I know he's not using it in that concept but ?


Yep it is : http://www.locksley.com/6696/swastick.htm

Rip The Jacker
06-21-2005, 01:21 AM
http://history.grand-forks.k12.nd.us/ndhistory/LessonImages/Sources/Pictures/holocaust%202.jpg
Did you know that Elie Wiesel is actually in that picture?

http://img296.echo.cx/img296/4232/elie1we.jpg

That's Elie Wiesel, the author of the really famous novel, Night.

http://www.achievement.org/library/bookcovers/Night_0.jpg

That's a really rare photo to take. Elie while he was actually in the concentration camp.

Spicker
06-21-2005, 01:22 AM
:ohmy:

Wtf ur kidding me right?

how could possibly say that :blink:

Many educated people believe the Holocaust,was a myth...there are numerous web sites dedicated to this absurd "myth". :rolleyes:

It's a shame.

Peace bd
WoW

isnt that just complete ignorance?


* The "myth" of the Holocaust was created solely for the financial benefit of Israel

Holocaust denial often asserts that the sole reason that the "Holocaust hoax" has been promulgated was that it created a financial windfall for the State of Israel. Deborah Lipstadt provides this information in "Denying the Holocaust":

"Israeli officials detailed their claims against Germany in their communique of March 1951 to the Four Powers, and this document became the official basis for the reparations agreement. It contained an explanation of Israel's means of calculating the size of the reparations claim. In the communique Israeli officials explained that Nazi persecution had stimulated 'a second Jewish exodus' of close to five hundred thousand. Based on the size of this exodus, Israel determined the amount of the reparations it would request:

The government of Israel is not in a position to obtain and present a complete statement of all Jewish property taken or looted by the Germans, and said to total more than $6 thousand million. It can only compute its claim on the basis of total expenditures already made and the expenditure still needed for the integration of Jewish immigrants from Nazi-dominated countries. The number of these immigrants is estimated at some 500,000, which means a total expenditure of $1.5 thousand million.

It seems hardly necessary to point out that since the money the state received by based on the cost of resettling survivors, had Israel wanted to increase the amount of reparations it obtained from Germany it would have been in its interest to argue that fewer than six million had been killed and that more had managed to flee to Israel." (Lipstadt, 57)
http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/leuchter/leuchter-faq-21.html
unbielivable

brotherdoobie
06-21-2005, 01:34 AM
Many educated people believe the Holocaust,was a myth...there are numerous web sites dedicated to this absurd "myth". :rolleyes:

It's a shame.

Peace bd
WoW

isnt that just complete ignorance?


* The "myth" of the Holocaust was created solely for the financial benefit of Israel

Holocaust denial often asserts that the sole reason that the "Holocaust hoax" has been promulgated was that it created a financial windfall for the State of Israel. Deborah Lipstadt provides this information in "Denying the Holocaust":

"Israeli officials detailed their claims against Germany in their communique of March 1951 to the Four Powers, and this document became the official basis for the reparations agreement. It contained an explanation of Israel's means of calculating the size of the reparations claim. In the communique Israeli officials explained that Nazi persecution had stimulated 'a second Jewish exodus' of close to five hundred thousand. Based on the size of this exodus, Israel determined the amount of the reparations it would request:

The government of Israel is not in a position to obtain and present a complete statement of all Jewish property taken or looted by the Germans, and said to total more than $6 thousand million. It can only compute its claim on the basis of total expenditures already made and the expenditure still needed for the integration of Jewish immigrants from Nazi-dominated countries. The number of these immigrants is estimated at some 500,000, which means a total expenditure of $1.5 thousand million.

It seems hardly necessary to point out that since the money the state received by based on the cost of resettling survivors, had Israel wanted to increase the amount of reparations it obtained from Germany it would have been in its interest to argue that fewer than six million had been killed and that more had managed to flee to Israel." (Lipstadt, 57)
http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/leuchter/leuchter-faq-21.html
unbielivable


Short answer...Yes.

Peace bd

Smith
06-21-2005, 01:55 AM
Woha, ive been out all afternoon, whats going on??

Zero, its not like i support nazism, i hate nazis, i hate all serious racists. Im just saying that i realy dont like EA thats all, and it means nothing more than thad ;)

@jaigandhi5: Ive got my grade 10 history exam on wensday ;)

manker
06-21-2005, 02:00 AM
Woha, ive been out all afternoon, whats going on?? http://img56.echo.cx/img56/551/enlishn5kt.gif

Read the thread. If you still keep it in your sig then you're an insensitive idiot.

Smith
06-21-2005, 02:04 AM
Woha, ive been out all afternoon, whats going on?? http://img56.echo.cx/img56/551/enlishn5kt.gif

Read the thread. If you still keep it in your sig then you're an insensitive idiot.

Im not removing it .

HCT
06-21-2005, 02:07 AM
1. All posts, comments and opinions are those of the poster and do not necessarily reflect the views or beliefs of the site and its administrators. This forum, its administrators, and moderators reserve the right to request alteration or deletion of any post in whole or in part. Offensive posts may be deleted.

it up to the moderators.

manker
06-21-2005, 02:11 AM
http://img56.echo.cx/img56/551/enlishn5kt.gif

Read the thread. If you still keep it in your sig then you're an insensitive idiot.

Im not removing it .Even tho' several people have said that it's offensive to them.

Far be it from me to extrapolate from this isolated incident, but no wonder your peers think you're an arse (http://www.filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=97426).

Smith
06-21-2005, 02:13 AM
Im not removing it .Even tho' several people have said that it's offensive to them.

Far be it from me to extrapolate from this isolated incident, but no wonder your peers think you're an arse (http://www.filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=97426).


Honestly, fuck off, you dont know me so you do not have the right to judge me.

brotherdoobie
06-21-2005, 02:15 AM
Even tho' several people have said that it's offensive to them.

Far be it from me to extrapolate from this isolated incident, but no wonder your peers think you're an arse (http://www.filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=97426).


Honestly, fuck off, you dont know me so you do not have the right to judge me.

So, you're offended?...Do you like it?


Peace bd

Smith
06-21-2005, 02:17 AM
Im not changing it just cause you guys are bitching at me. Ad block it, block my pictures, block me or STFU.

I will gladly change it if a mod tells me i have to, but untill then piss off.

manker
06-21-2005, 02:20 AM
Even tho' several people have said that it's offensive to them.

Far be it from me to extrapolate from this isolated incident, but no wonder your peers think you're an arse (http://www.filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=97426).


Honestly, fuck off, you dont know me so you do not have the right to judge me.Not me judging you. According to your own words, it's your friends who are doing that.

Nevermind. At least you've got people on the interweb who think you're a great bloke ... oh, wait. My bad.

===

Actually I'm not that pissed off about the image in your sig. You're young and maybe ignorant to the implications. I hardly posted until you decided to try to make light of it, the people who've posted obviously have strong feelings about the imagery. They asked nicely for you to remove it without reporting you, why not just do it.

To be nice, like.

brotherdoobie
06-21-2005, 02:21 AM
Im not changing it just cause you guys are bitching at me. Ad block it, block my pictures, block me or STFU.

I will gladly change it if a mod tells me i have to, but untill then piss off.

Often, in life we must decide,when to take a stand...nice choice. :)

Peace bd :frusty:

Rip The Jacker
06-21-2005, 02:22 AM
Alright, let's settle this now. Canuk check your PM.

Smith
06-21-2005, 02:24 AM
Honestly, fuck off, you dont know me so you do not have the right to judge me.Not me judging you. According to your own words, it's your friends who are doing that.

Nevermind. At least you've got people on the interweb who think you're a great bloke ... oh, wait. My bad.

===

Actually I'm not that pissed off about the image in your sig. You're young and maybe ignorant to the implications. I hardly posted until you decided to try to make light of it, the people who've posted obviously have strong feelings about the imagery. They asked nicely for you to remove it without reporting you, why not just do it.

To be nice, like.




Lol never mind, i got teh PM. Im changing it, so you whiney little babies can continue with your lifes.

Edit: there everyone happy?

muchspl3
06-21-2005, 02:29 AM
thats messed up making you change it IMO

free speech > whiny bitches

manker
06-21-2005, 02:31 AM
Not me judging you. According to your own words, it's your friends who are doing that.

Nevermind. At least you've got people on the interweb who think you're a great bloke ... oh, wait. My bad.

===

Actually I'm not that pissed off about the image in your sig. You're young and maybe ignorant to the implications. I hardly posted until you decided to try to make light of it, the people who've posted obviously have strong feelings about the imagery. They asked nicely for you to remove it without reporting you, why not just do it.

To be nice, like.




Lol never mind, i got teh PM. Im changing it, so you whiney little babies can continue with your lifes.

Edit: there everyone happy?You'll be happy to know that my opinion of you is still the same as it was before you used a swastika in your sig :)

manker
06-21-2005, 02:33 AM
thats messed up making you change it IMO

free speech > whiny bitches
You're so right.

I think I'll put some scat pics in my sig :mellow:

Smith
06-21-2005, 02:34 AM
Go ahead, i wouldnt bitch about it :dry:

Ive had enuff of this anyway, you guys can argue about this, it would be nice to see someone else fight on my side ;), but im going up stairs to watch tv.

Spicker
06-21-2005, 02:36 AM
glad this ended in a peaceful way :01:

Edit: NVM

Rip The Jacker
06-21-2005, 02:36 AM
Alright there is no need for this thread anymore. TheCanuk removed it, and I removed it from GepperRankins' signature also (I sent him a PM).

For future reference...

5. Signatures and avatars will be restricted in size and content, and must not be offensive in nature. Signatures and avatars that do not comply will be removed or edited. Click here for detailed rules.

If your sig absolutely offends anyone, its breaking rule number 5.

There, everyone happy? I'm closing this now. If anything, PM me.