Car companies, who owns who?

[Spicker]

well i found this on my friend's blog...
http://ablogforall.blogspot.com/


Car Companies or Company?
In the fast growing automobile market, there are always competition with the rival companies. However, you do not realize that in reality they are actually competing with themselves. I am here to get the record straight and show you the consumer the truth about car companies and their ownerships.

BMW owns

* BMW
* Mini
* Rolls Royce
* Evidence: BMW designed the new Rolls Royce Phantom

DaimlerChrysler owns

* AMC (discontinued)
* DaimlerChrysler
* Dodge
* Eagle (discontinued)
* Hyundai (10% Ownership)
* Jeep
* Maybach
* Mercedes-Benz
* Mitsubishi (34% Ownership and strategic partner)
* Plymouth (discontinued)
* C-Smart
* Evidence: Jeep Cherokee and Mitsubishi Endeavor same platform, 300c Hemi used Benz parts

Fiat owns

* Alfa Romeo
* Ferrari
* Fiat
* Lancia
* Maserati
* Tata (Tata is not owned by Fiat but is a strategic partner)
* Evidence: Ferrari and Maserati dealerships, Tata helps design the Ferrari engines

Ford owns

* Aston Martin
* Ford
* Jaguar
* Land Rover (previously BMW)
* Lincoln
* Mazda (33% ownership)
* Mercury
* Volvo
* Evidence: Ford SUVs and Lincoln SUVs have same platforms, Mazda Tribute, Mercury Mariner and Ford Escape have the same platform, Mercury Sable had a counterpart Ford Sable

Fuji Heavy Industries owns

* Subaru
* Evidence: Using aerospace technology for designing their cars

General Motors owns

* Buick
* Cadillac
* Chevrolet (Chevy)
* Daewoo (45% ownership)
* Fuji Heavy Industries (20% ownership)
* GMC Trucks
* Holden
* Hummer
* Isuzu (60% ownership)
* Oldsmobile (discontinued)
* Opel
* Pontiac
* Saab
* Saturn
* Suzuki
* Vauxhall
* Evidence: GMC Envoy, Chevy Trailblazer, Buick Rainer, Oldsmobile Bravada share the same platform, dealership signs, GMC Yukon, Cadillac Escalade, Chevy Tahoe share the same platform, most of the cars in GM are platform cars, shared with all the companies

Honda owns

* Acura
* Honda
* Evidence: Acura MDX and Honda Pilot share the same platform, Acura EL and Honda Civic have the same platform, value of cars in loss per year relatively the same

Hyundai owns

* Hyundai
* KIA
* Evidence: some Hyundai and KIA vehicles share the same engines

Nissan owns

* Infiniti
* Nissan
* Renault (15% ownership)
* Evidence: Infiniti QX56 and Nissan Armada share the same platform, Infiniti M35 is based on the Nissan Altima and Maxima platforms, Infinti G35 Coupe and Nissan 350z share the same platform, dealership signs

PSA Peugeot Citroen owns

* Citroen
* Peugeot
* Evidence: Peugeot 107 and the Citroen C1 share the same platform

Porsche owns no one but Volkswagen's strategic partner (for evidence see Volkswagen)

Toyota owns

* Daihatsu (51% ownership)
* Lexus
* Scion
* Toyota
* Evidence: Toyota Camry shares the platform with the Lexus RX330 and the Lexus GS, Scion is apart of Toyota's dealerships, All Lexus SUVs share Toyota SUV platforms

Volkswagen owns

* Audi
* Bentley
* Bugatti
* Lamborghini
* SEAT
* Skoda
* Volkswagen(VW)
* Evidence: VW Tourage, Audi Allroad, Porsche Cayenne share the same platforms, Adolph Hitler drew the VW Beetle on a napkin and gave it to Fernanad "Porsche" who later created VW

I hope that this list can make you a better consumer. For example, if you looking for a luxury car, look for it's counterpart in another company. This counterpart can be cheaper and still be the same such the Cadillac Escalade and the GMC Yukon, if the Yukon is bought instead of the Escalade, the owner can save $40 000 and still have the same SUV!

In the business world, every single company is merging with another one. It is showing that there is no such thing as an independent company anymore. Porsche, is independent but still has to work with VW in order to still be successful. From the looks of this, it will be quite normal and maybe expected that these 13 companies can soon be a smaller number

[DarthInsinuate]

I hope that this list can make you a better consumer. For example, if you looking for a luxury car, look for it's counterpart in another company. This counterpart can be cheaper and still be the same such the Cadillac Escalade and the GMC Yukon, if the Yukon is bought instead of the Escalade, the owner can save $40 000 and still have the same SUV!
wait, that's not right, i just did some quick googling, the two cars are different, the Escalade has a 6 litre engine while the Yukon has a 4.8 litre

while it is true that many companies are usually part of a conglomerate (the film industry is another good example), it does really make much sense that the conglomerate would make it's subsidiaries compete with each other

[Smith]

Ford, GM, Fiat and Volkswagon look to be the best by my standards.

Over all i would think Volkawagon make the best cars along with GM

[Mad Cat]

I already knew this, if not which company owns which specifically.

BMW selling Rover for £1 or something is always a laugh. There aren't any UK owned mainstream car manufacturers anymore. I say bring back the Delorian.

[Spicker]

Ford, GM, Fiat and Volkswagon look to be the best by my standards.

Over all i would think Volkawagon make the best cars along with GM
i dont know if u know this...but...VW is currently the most unreliable car :ermm:

[Smith]

WAT? I thought it was the safest :(

[Guillaume]

SAAB are the best cars around.

Reliable, safe, albeit a bit on the expensive side.

[sArA]

My car is the best.... :wub:



http://server3.uploadit.org/files/sara5564-mymazda006.JPG

[Guillaume]

Have you installed those neon lights yet? :unsure:

edit: another weird coincidence, as I was posting this last bit of wisdom, winamp started playing JL Hooker's "Mustang Sally & GTO". :blink:

[sArA]

Have you installed those neon lights yet? :unsure:

edit: another weird coincidence, as I was posting this last bit of wisdom, winamp started playing JL Hooker's "Mustang Sally & GTO". :blink:

No neons...although blue might look pretty....hmmmmm.....no, no...too boy racer...

Might get some nice new 17" alloys though...... :shifty:



Vroom Vroom (not bloody zoom zoom)

[manker]

Yawn. Cars are so dull.


Who's this new Spicker guy :unsure:

[Smith]

Have you installed those neon lights yet? :unsure:

edit: another weird coincidence, as I was posting this last bit of wisdom, winamp started playing JL Hooker's "Mustang Sally & GTO". :blink:

No neons...although blue might look pretty....hmmmmm.....no, no...too boy racer...

Might get some nice new 17" alloys though...... :shifty:



Vroom Vroom (not bloody zoom zoom)

Get some dubs forshizzle, yo :unsure:

[Spicker]

Yawn. Cars are so dull.


Who's this new Spicker guy :unsure:
its me, jaigandhi5 :blushing:

[Peerzy]

http://www.autobischof.ch/images-2004/audi-tt-roadster-2004-800x479.jpg

^^^ My car :01:

[JPaul]

Nah, this whole "buy the counterpart coz it's cheaper just doesn't work".

Just because the design and the parts are pretty much the same does not mean that the finished products will be the same. It also depends on how they are put together.

I remember a few years back there was a Rover which was identical to the Honda Legend (can't remember the Rover version's name). The only difference was that the Legend was put together in Japan and the Rover in the UK.

What a surprise, the Rovers were constantly being brought back for repairs. The Hondas only ever stopped for fuel. The difference in the build quality was astonishing.

Look at it this way. If I give you a pile of bricks and some mortar and ask you to build a wall you could probably do it, to a degree. However it would be all over the place and would fall down in a gust of wind. If I give exactly the same materials to a decent bricklayer he could build a lovely, square wall which would stand up for years. A wonder wall, as it were.

Unless of course there are any bricklayers reading this, in which case "not you, arse".

[Snee]

Yawn. Cars are so dull.


Who's this new Spicker guy :unsure:
its me, jaigandhi5 :blushing:
So that's why it says so in the member title.

D'oh.

[Tikibonbon]

Get some dubs forshizzle, yo :unsure:

I think these omegas would be more Sara's styly.

http://store1.yimg.com/I/racerwheel_1854_292027714

[sArA]

They are wierd...... :sick:

[Snee]

Definitely your style then. :P

[sArA]

I rather like these ones better...... :)


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b400/sara5564/images.jpg

[Tikibonbon]

I rather like these ones better...... :)


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b400/sara5564/images.jpg

But do they spin?!?! Where's yer sense of bling bling lady?

[manker]

Chavs have hit America - and they have cars.

[Tikibonbon]

Chavs have hit America - and they have cars.

grumble, grumble, been here for SEVERAL years.

[manker]

Chavs have hit America - and they have cars.

grumble, grumble, been here for SEVERAL years.I wasn't aware :D

Maybe my covert plans for another exodus from the Mayflower Steps of societal undesirables has borne fruit.

[Tikibonbon]

Have you guys gotten the teeth spinners yet? :lol:

Keep yours, we have too many as it is :)

[manker]

Have you guys gotten the teeth spinners yet? :lol:

Keep yours, we have too many as it is :)Blast. Ah well, Australia it is.



Teeth spinners :unsure: (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=teeth%20spinners&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wi)

[Tikibonbon]

http://www.triplexgoldteeth.com/spinning_teeth.htm

[Busyman]

Chavs have hit America - and they have cars.
Chav, unfortunately, are a twisted copy of part American culture. Over here they are sometimes known as fake-ass gangsta whiteboys.

I hadn't heard of a chav till this forum.

In essence, the "chav" was in America long before the UK. You just named it such.

[manker]

Chavs have hit America - and they have cars.
Chav, unfortunately, are a twisted copy of part American culture. Over here they are sometimes known as fake-ass gangsta whiteboys.

I hadn't heard of a chav till this forum.

In essence, the "chav" was in America long before the UK. You just named it such.Fake-ass gangsta whiteboys.

It's a wonder that when we copied the concept from the almighty US, that we didn't also copy the name. It's so damn catchy.




Btw, chavs aren't fake-ass gangsta white boys.

[Peerzy]

Chavs have hit America - and they have cars.
Chav, unfortunately, are a twisted copy of part American culture. Over here they are sometimes known as fake-ass gangsta whiteboys.

I hadn't heard of a chav till this forum.

In essence, the "chav" was in America long before the UK. You just named it such.


Isn't that being slighty racist?


Any white person you see who is wearing 'gangsta' like clothes is suddenly a chav? Fucking too right you are, bunch of wankers :angry:

[manker]

That was kinda my point :01:

Chavs can be any creed or colour - provided they're anti-social, robbing, tracksuit-wearing cunts.

[Snee]

I just noticed that thecanuk's sig boldly states that he sux cawk.

Who'd have thought it.

[Peerzy]

I just noticed that thecanuk's sig boldly states that he sux cawk.

Who'd have thought it.


I made that and he stole it :cry:


But i don't suck cawk, he does :lookaroun

[manker]

I just noticed that thecanuk's sig boldly states that he sux cawk.

Who'd have thought it.


I made that and he stole it :cry:


But i don't suck cawk, he does :lookarounOh, I see.

You're the taker in that relationship :naughty:

[Peerzy]

I made that and he stole it :cry:


But i don't suck cawk, he does :lookarounOh, I see.

You're the taker in that relationship :naughty:

Fraid so,

He does all the hard work, so you don't have to :D :blatentuseofadvertisement:

[Busyman]

Chav, unfortunately, are a twisted copy of part American culture. Over here they are sometimes known as fake-ass gangsta whiteboys.

I hadn't heard of a chav till this forum.

In essence, the "chav" was in America long before the UK. You just named it such.


Isn't that being slighty racist.


Any white person you see who is wearing 'gangsta' like clothes is suddenly a chav? Fucking too right you are, bunch of wankers :angry:
Fishin' huh?

It either is racist or it isn't?

You obviously haven't reading. We don't call 'em chavs (except those who have adopted your lingo). Besides that, a "chav", is not just how a person dresses.

From what I've seen, "chavs" are fake-ass wanna-be gangsta whiteboys.

Wtf is 'gangsta' like clothes anyway? It's talk like that lends me to believe you are inherently ignorant as to wtf you are talking about?

[Busyman]

I just noticed that thecanuk's sig boldly states that he sux cawk.

Who'd have thought it.


I made that and he stole it :cry:
So you used to suck cock then? Did you look like this?-----> :ohmy:

[Peerzy]

Isn't that being slighty racist.


Any white person you see who is wearing 'gangsta' like clothes is suddenly a chav? Fucking too right you are, bunch of wankers :angry:
Fishin' huh?

It either is racist or it isn't?

You obviously haven't reading. We don't call 'em chavs (except those who have adopted your lingo). Besides that, a "chav", is not just how a person dresses.

From what I've seen, "chavs" are fake-ass wanna-be gangsta whiteboys.

Wtf is 'gangsta' like clothes anyway? It's talk like that lends me to believe you are inherently ignorant as to wtf you are talking about?


You define a chav (or whatever the American is for Chav) as a white person dress or acting like a gangsta.

1) Chav's come in all shapes, colours and sizes.
2) Thats like saying all Terrorists are muslim, which we all know isn't true.


Ergo, racism.

Peerzy>Busyman

[Peerzy]

I made that and he stole it :cry:
So you used to suck cawk then? :blink:

No, someone hasn't been catching up on his Lounge Daily :ohmy: (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=98192)

[Busyman]

Fishin' huh?

It either is racist or it isn't?

You obviously haven't reading. We don't call 'em chavs (except those who have adopted your lingo). Besides that, a "chav", is not just how a person dresses.

From what I've seen, "chavs" are fake-ass wanna-be gangsta whiteboys.

Wtf is 'gangsta' like clothes anyway? It's talk like that lends me to believe you are inherently ignorant as to wtf you are talking about?


You define a chav (or whatever the American is for Chav) as a white person dress or acting like a gangsta.

1) Chav's come in all shapes, colours and sizes.
2) Thats like saying all Terrorists are muslim, which we all know isn't true.


Ergo, racism.

Peerzy>Busyman
It's pretty simple.

Every instance of chav I've seen is a weird ass copy of shit over here. The fact that you attached a name to it speaks geeky volumes.

I haven't seen chavs "in all shapes, colours and sizes". I've only seen pictures of it on this forum and they look like little bitches trying to be hard.

[Peerzy]

You define a chav (or whatever the American is for Chav) as a white person dress or acting like a gangsta.

1) Chav's come in all shapes, colours and sizes.
2) Thats like saying all Terrorists are muslim, which we all know isn't true.


Ergo, racism.

Peerzy>Busyman
It's pretty simple.

Every instance of chav I've seen is a weird ass copy of shit over here. The fact that you attached a name to it speaks geeky volumes.

I haven't seen chavs "in all shapes, colours and sizes". I've only seen pictures of it on this forum and they look like little bitches trying to be hard.


Yes they are little bitches trying to act hard, but that doesn't mean there white. Scum comes in many forms.

Also how is giving names to things geeky :blink:

[Busyman]

It's pretty simple.

Every instance of chav I've seen is a weird ass copy of shit over here. The fact that you attached a name to it speaks geeky volumes.

I haven't seen chavs "in all shapes, colours and sizes". I've only seen pictures of it on this forum and they look like little bitches trying to be hard.


Yes they are little bitches trying to act hard, but that doesn't mean there white. Scum comes in many forms.

Also how is giving names to things geeky :blink:
'Cause over here, if someone wears a sweatsuit it isn't "chavish".

If they act hard, they aren't living "chavishly".

If someone is gangsta-like they probably are actually gangstas yet we barely say that. It is not foreign to me. So to hear a weird ass copy of it referred with some spunky name sounds geeky.

However, I will admit attaching a name to this group is apt.

[Afronaut]

What would ya call a chav with that spinning bling bling on the teeth?

We gotta come up with more, faster, better, bigger ways to insult folks anyway.

:D

[Smith]

Here you go Sara :)

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7306/spintekice8823tx.gif

[Snee]

What would ya call a chav with that spinning bling bling on the teeth?
A target for some amateur weightloss-oriented back-alley dentistry? :unsure: