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spelunker121
07-10-2005, 05:31 PM
Hi All,

ok, I know that "FPS" = "first person shooter"
But what are some of the others??? Like "MMORPG" for example.

Im really clueless......but curious.

Please provide enlightenment.

Thanx in advance

GepperRankins
07-10-2005, 05:39 PM
massively-multiplayer-online-role-playing-game

{I}{K}{E}
07-10-2005, 07:36 PM
fps also mean frames per second :P

Guillaume
07-10-2005, 07:58 PM
And RTS = Real Time Strategy.

Oh, BTW, they are not anagrams, they're acronyms :manker:

Busyman
07-10-2005, 08:11 PM
And RTS = Real Time Strategy.

Oh, BTW, they are not anagrams, they're acronyms :manker:
They are not acronyms. They are abbreviations. :busyman:

:ph34r:

Skiz
07-10-2005, 08:14 PM
No they aren't. :dry:

appt. (appointment) is an abbreviation.

UPS is an acronym. United Parcel Service or FPS - First Person Shooter

Busyman
07-11-2005, 02:42 AM
No they aren't. :dry:

appt. (appointment) is an abbreviation.

UPS is an acronym. United Parcel Service or FPS - First Person Shooter
You are wrong.

Sit down. :ermm:

UPS is an acronym (even though most folk don't use it as such). FPS is not.

What you think cause it's in CAPS it makes it an acronym? Phrases can be abbreviated as well as words.

All acronyms are abbreviations but not vice-versa.

I thought everyone on here was so fond of googling. I'm sure you can look it up somewhere. :dry:

spelunker121
07-11-2005, 03:09 AM
Well, I sure didnt mean to stir it up.........I jus wanted to understand the "lingo" when I read about the terms used.

My mistake.I dont know my anograms from acronyms

but just to set it straight......from websters:

Main Entry: ac·ro·nym
Pronunciation: 'a-kr&-"nim
Function: noun
Etymology: acr- + -onym
: a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term; also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed from initial letters


Main Entry: 1an·a·gram
Pronunciation: 'a-na-"gram
Function: noun
Etymology: probably from Middle French anagramme, from New Latin anagrammat-, anagramma, modification of Greek anagrammatismos, from anagrammatizein to transpose letters, from ana- + grammat-, gramma letter -- more at GRAM
1 : a word or phrase made by transposing the letters of another word or phrase
2 plural but singular in construction : a game in which words are formed by rearranging the letters of other words or by arranging letters taken (as from a stock of cards or blocks) at random


BTW thanx for the replies

Busyman
07-11-2005, 03:14 AM
Well, I sure didnt mean to stir it up.........I jus wanted to understand the "lingo" when I read about the terms used.

My mistake.I dont know my anograms from acronyms

but just to set it straight......from websters:

Main Entry: ac·ro·nym
Pronunciation: 'a-kr&-"nim
Function: noun
Etymology: acr- + -onym
: a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term; also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed from initial letters


Main Entry: 1an·a·gram
Pronunciation: 'a-na-"gram
Function: noun
Etymology: probably from Middle French anagramme, from New Latin anagrammat-, anagramma, modification of Greek anagrammatismos, from anagrammatizein to transpose letters, from ana- + grammat-, gramma letter -- more at GRAM
1 : a word or phrase made by transposing the letters of another word or phrase
2 plural but singular in construction : a game in which words are formed by rearranging the letters of other words or by arranging letters taken (as from a stock of cards or blocks) at random


BTW thanx for the replies
Great!!!

Like I said. Skizo was wrong. :rolleyes:

Acronyms make pronouncable words. People mistakingly call abbreviations like FPS acronyms and their mistakes make it into the dictionary. :dry:
That is called jargon.

asmithz
07-11-2005, 03:59 AM
Busyman you are wrong, Skizo is right :-/

Skiz
07-11-2005, 06:20 AM
Busyman you are wrong, Skizo is right :-/

Yep. Thanks. :happy:


a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term

I know it doesn't have to be capitalized, that's why I gave an example of fps and a proper noun such as UPS. Sheesh, even the Websters definition you quoted has three examples as such.


NATO, radar, or snafu

Afronaut
07-11-2005, 06:25 AM
Busyman you are wrong, Skizo is right :-/
Like it matters but, your post does not give much to the thread and it dont explain why "you" think Skitzo is right.
(alltho, it does give a hint that you 're Skizo's biatch.)
:P

Wiki has some basic info:

Abbreviation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbreviation)

Acronym and initialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronyms)

This tool could come handy:
Find out what those acronyms and abbreviations stand for... (http://www.acronymfinder.com//)
Or this:
Acronym Server
(http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym/acro.html)

Let me try to contribute something here, I found this little thing (http://www.acmi.net.au/324D05B3889B4945BFBDAFF7E0E8F4CB.htm)(which is what I think the thread author wanted to find):

glossary of computer game genres
Like cinema, computer games have as many different genre categories as they do audience groups. Unlike cinema, many of them are known by their tongue-twisting acronyms! Here are some of the most notable:

Advergames: Games developed for advertising purposes.
Adventure: Adventure games involve exploration of, and interaction with, the environment as a main facet of gameplay. Story and puzzle solving are also highlighted and interaction is usually driven by point and click. Fighting plays a minor role. Adventure games include Zork and Myst.
Classic Arcade: Classic arcade games refer to games that originally existed on freestanding coin-operated machines. Classic arcade games include Pong and Space Invaders
Fighting: Fighting games involves rendering opponents unconscious or dead by using a number of different moves. Gameplay tactics are limited to selecting the most appropriate move in a situation. Fighting games include Tekken 3 and Street Fighter.
FPS: 'First Person Shooters' are games in which the player has a first-person perspective of their character. FPS shooters include Doom and Quake
MMORPG: 'Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games' are multi-player role-playing games that enable thousands of players to play in an evolving virtual online world at the same time. MMORPGs include Diablo and WarCraft
MOO: 'Multi-User Domain - Object Oriented' is a type of MUD that allows players greater freedom such as creating new objects and character descriptions and programming new verbs.
MUD: 'Multi User Dimension' (or 'Multi User Dungeon' or 'Multi-User Domain') is a text-based, game-world on the internet where the players can interact using text commands. Generally RPG games.
Platform: Platformers or side scrollers are games in which the background scrolls and the player jumps from platform to platform. Game-play generally includes running and jumping. Platform games include Donkey King and Super Mario Bros.
Puzzle: Puzzle games are short but addictive graphical games that usually require the player to solve a puzzle such as a maze, logical problem or positioning different pieces together. Puzzle games include Tetris and Bust A Move (Puzzle Bobble)
Racing Games: Racing games involve the player competing in races. Racing games include Daytona and the Mario Kart series.
RPG: 'Role Playing Games' are games in which the player's character has skills and abilities represented by statistics. Gameplay involves the characters exploring and completing quests that build up their statistics and possessions. Can be single or multi-player. RPGs include Everquest and Ultima
Shooters: Shoot em' Up or Shooter games involve shooting or destroying multiple objects and opponents. Shoot 'em up games include Doom and Asteroids.
Strategy Games: Strategy games require the player to take on a leadership role and oversee every detail of the provided scenario(s). Gameplay focuses on strategies and careful planning and resource management in order to win. Strategy games include Age of Mythology.
RTS: 'Real Time Strategy' games are strategy games played in real time. RTS include Command and Conquer and Rise of Nations.
Serious Games: Serious games are games aimed at teaching, discussing or debating real-world concepts via gameplay. Serious games include Virtual U.
Simulations: Simulation games attempt to realistically mimic conditions of a particular environment or activity. Sim games include SimCity and Flight emulators.
Sports Games: Sports Games emulate traditional physical sports such as basketball and golf.
TPS: 'Third Person Shooters' offer players a third person perspective of their character. TPS shooters include Grand Theft Auto.
Web based games: Web based games are those available via the web and are usually developed in Flash or Shockwave.
.. with Google. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=game+genre+acronyms&btnG=Search)


It's easy to find more stuff like that (http://www.cubeowner.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=3182) on Google. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=list+of+typical+acronyms+%2Bgames&btnG=Google+Search)
a snip from the first hit I got:



Game Related Terms & acronyms

Admin: 1) a gameserver administrator (as in "being an admin" or "having admin", or to adminstrate a gameserver for the purpose of adjusting game parameters, or controlling lamers. 2) to referee a clanwar.
Aliasing: to play under a different name than normally to hide your identity
Alias clan: A clan made up of aliasing players, frequently known players from known clans.
backdoor: a secret piece of programming code (that typical users are unaware of) which creates an easy alternative way to do something, either by an illicit user, or by the coder directed at the typical user.
Alpha: An alpha-test version of a game... There are several conflicting classic definitions of alpha. One is the first complete integration of all major code components. The other is an in-house product, not released to the public even in a limited way, also known as IR for Internal-release.
ban: to prohibit certain players from a gamesserver by banning their IP address.
BW: bandwidth
banner: across the game screen, e.g. banner say
benchmark: In gaming, usually a standard performance test to compare video performance (usually frame-per-second FPS). The old standard has long been Quake III, but it looks like standard Unreal Touranment 2003 benchmark demos (that ship with the game) might become standard.
Beta: A beta-test version of a game. An incomplete or incompletely debugged version of a game that is released to the public (either in a limited release beta, or a full public beta) for the purpose of large-scale debugging as well as exposure of the game.
binds: keystroke commands, often referring to in-game chat messages such as frequently used taunts. See also "keybind"
bot: 1) an auto-aim (or aimbot) cheat 2) a non-player character controlled by the gaming application
BT: beta test, or beta tester. Also BTing.
BV: Behind View in the first person (as in a FPS game)
Cache: Originally a temporary holding area (memory or disk) for files or data, as in disk-cache or CPU-cache. In gaming, often refers to a semi-permanent holding area for files downloaded by clients from gameservers.
CCG: Collectible Card Game
CD Key: similar to serial number; in addition to installation, it may also be used to prohibit players with the same CD Key to play in the same multiplayer game.
Channel: Can refer to IRC (internet relay chat) channel for a Clan, or a VOIP channel.
Chobo: n00b.
Clan: An officially organized team of players that can play other teams. Members can be known as "clanners".
Clanserver: a gameserver owned by a clan. May be open for public play at times, or may be PWd for private functions such as practices, scrimmages, or clanwars.
Clanwar: an official gaming match between two clans.
Clantag: identifier that goes before or after a player's alias. Usually an abbreviation, often with symbols or separateors, and all clanmembers will wear the same tag. e.g. if Joe and Fragger play for a clan called "cell block 4", their in-game aliases might be: [CB4]Joe and [CB4]Fragger.
CL: Clan Leader
Cleanup: A player in a game with damage that finishes off opponents that other teammates damaged already, to gain a score they don't fully deserve. Often done by players who camp until midround, then emerge.
Console: 1) a dedicated gaming machine (see Console Games). 2) a command-line interface that can be used in-game on games on personal computers.
Console games: games on dedicated gaming machines such as Nintendo, Sega, etc. Not to be confused with PC games.
Corona: A video setting that is often able to be enabled/disabled. Coronas are the hazy halo surrounding a light source.
CV: center view
DC: Dreamcast
Decals: Semipermanent graphics that occur in the game. Typical ones include footprints, blood trails, bullet/explosion impacts, etc. Usually is a video setting that can be enabled/disabled.
Decal Stay: A video setting that determines how long decals remain visible before disappearing. Longer decal stay requires more resources from the computer.
Dedicated Server: A gameserver which is not running a playable game clientside. Therefore more server resources are freed.
Demonstration Server: A gameserver run by a GSP as an advertisement of its products.
Demorec: demo recording-- to record a movie of the game from your POV. Can be used for fun, or for anti-cheat verification.
DL: download (direction of data travel from server to client)
DP: Dual-Processor
Dynamic Lighting: A vidcard setting to enable/disable lighting effects that change in time, e.g. flashes from explosions, or lighting from flashlights.
FF: Friendly Fire
Final: The final release of a software product, either an entire game, or a game component such as a Map.
Flash: Macromedia Flash, esp. for web browser-based games, but also for sigs in gaming forums.
FOV: Field of View
FPS: First Person Shooter ( A shooter game where you have the POV of the character... for example you may see an arm or sight, but not the entire character. e.g. Quake/Doom/UT)
dedicated server- a game application that acts only as a server, so that no player could actually play on the server itself. This is a more efficient way to operate a server, especially for twitchy games.
FPS: Frames per Second
Frag: 1) To kill another player/bot 2) Score (as in frag-count)
FS: Full-screen mode (i.e. not windowed)
Full Conversion: Using the engine of a game to create an entirely different game. Counterstrike on the Half Life engine is a classic example, but can include commercial licensing such as Alice or Star Trek Elite Force, which are both based on the Quake engine.
GC: 1) ghostcam 2) game cube.
GF: Geforce
Ghostcam: a moving POV of the gaming area that a player can view after their character's death. For example, in official clanwars for FPS games, Ghostcam is disabled to prevent viewing the other clan's strategies.
GPF: When your PC-friend gamers crash, it's frequently due to a "General Protection Fault"
GSP: Game Service Provider. A company which offers gameservers, bandwidth, and auxiliary services (such as VOIP, clan website/forum, etc.)
Hacker/Hack: a cheater/cheat. e.g. "buyhack"
Hanji: hostage camper/lamer in rescue scenario games.
Hidden View: In FPS games, an option where your first-person view of your arm & item (weapon) is not visible.
HP: hit points or health
HUD: Heads Up Display. Just the extra info on your screen, for example score, time, health, location, talking text, etc.
HUD Transparency: The HUD may be made partially transparent (either permanently or on demand) so that gameplay behind these graphics are still visible.
Invert(ed) Mouse: moving the mouse up moves the game down, and vice-versa, originally common for airplane-stick games, but used by many FPS gamers.
IR: Internal Release. See also: Alpha, Beta. A version of a new game that has not been released to the public in any way including a limited-beta. An IR can be missing components, or can have all components, but is a product not deemed ready for public betatesting.
Janitor: see Cleanup
Keybinding: Configuring a keystroke to execute a command or set of commands
Kick: To disconnect a player from a game. Can be done by correctly-functioning or malfunctioning software, by PL, or by players or an admin. Contrast with Kickban (ban), Tempkickban.
Kickban: See ban.
L/P: login/password
Ladder: a ranking system for clans or players. For example http://www.clanbase.com/
Lag: choppiness in gaming internet connection caused by delay (high ping), loss of data (packet loss/PL), or high CPU load on the server. Often used as an excuse for poor gaming scores,or for choosing another server.
Lagger: a player whose lag causes problems for other players by lagging the entire gameserver.
Lamer: anyone who mildly or severely abuses game play to reduce the enjoyment of other players. Ranges from camping, TKing, to cheating.
LAN: 1) local area network 2) a LAN-party for a multiplayer game
Map: The gaming environment or scenario.
Mapper: Someone who writes maps.
Manual Mod/Manual Install: Usually a zipped version, rather than a PC-only .exe version of an installer, which mac users can't use (unless they have Virtual PC).
Mesh: The texture or "skin" applied to items in the game, be it background, players, or objects.
Mod: modification, for example an add-on to a game, or a total conversion of a game's engine to create a new game. Contrast with "patch".
MMOG: Massively Multiplayer Online Game
MMPORPG: Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game
MP: Multiple Processor, usually means Dual Processor, also DP.
Multiplayer: generally refers to Internet-based multiplayer
NES: Nintendo (8bit)
N64: nintendo 64
Optical: Usually refers to optical mouse.
Patch: An addition to an existing application. For example 1) a bug fix for a game or auxiliary anticheat program 2) An updated version of the game itself. Contrast with "Mod"/"Full Mod" which contains all the necessary files to convert one game into a fully different game (i.e. "Full Conversion")
Ping: latency or delay in milliseconds of internet data between the client player's machine to the gameserver. A low ping is ideal for "twitchy" games.
Pipe: 1) From *nix, the "|", to combine commands in-game. 2) bandwidth or a path for data, as a texture pipe in a vidcard.
polys: Polygons, as in how many polygons must be drawn to render a frame; higher poly counts means a higher load on the vidcard, and probably a lower FPS.
PL: packet loss-- loss of internet adta between client player's machine to gameserver... can be download (DL) or upload (UL) PL.
POV: Point of View
POTW: picture of the week, esp. for screenshots
Port: 1) To rewrite code for another platform. For example porting PC games to Mac. 2) tcp/ip ports, as in opening ports in firewalls for game clients and servers, or special functions such as webadmin.
Private aimbot: an aiming cheat that has NOT been released to the public in any cheat forum. There are not too many cheaters with their own private bots, but these are more difficult if not nearly impossible to stop using anti-cheat programs.
Proxy: to have a 'fake' IP address for either privacy or to get around being banned.
PS: play station
Public aimbot: an aiming cheat that has been released to the public. Generally these are also available to the anti-cheat community who can write an anti-cheat patch for most public cheats.
Pubs: public gameservers. No PW required. Can be filled with noobs or clantags, or both.
PW: password
Radar: either part of game HUD, or a cheat
Redirect: When a server redirects the client to download custom game files from a different location. This provides less internet load on the gameserver and speedier downloads especially if the game supports file compression on redirect.
RPG: Role Playing Game... a term still used from the old days of Dungeons & Dragons
RTS: Real Time Strategy
RW: Roger Wilco, a popular VOIP application.
Rush: A style of play that emphasizes fast forward attacks. In contrast with "campers." Hence "rush map" is a map which facilitates fast and active play.
Screenshot/Screenie: A snapshot picture of the game. Can be used for proof of a score, bug, or unusal situation, or just for humor.
Serverside: inside the game, as in "see you serverside".
Skin: The visual look of the player character, or of anything in-game that is rendered graphically... also Mesh.
SN: Serial Number
SNES: super nintendo (16 bit)
Spawn: 1) The moment that play begins with your character, var: "respawn" 2) The place in the map or gaming area that characters tend to spawn at.
Spawnkill/Spawnkiller: Player that camp spawn areas of the opposing team to get an easy frag.
Spray: Lack of precise aiming, e.g. "spray and pray"
Split: To play a clanwar split between two servers, usually when clans from different ping regions (e.g. west coast vs. east coast) play each other.
Strafe: to move sideways while remaining facing forward.
Teamsay: in-game chat that only your team can see.
Tempkickban: To temporarily ban a player's IP, usually only for the current game-in-progress.
TK/TKer: Team Kill/TKer. A player who damages or kills their teammates rather than the 'enemy.'
TPS: Third Person Shooter (a shooter game, where you can see your character. e.g. TombRaider)
TS: TeamSpeak, a popular VOIP application.
Twitchy: games where split-second timing is important. e.g. e.g. shooting games like FPSs are twitchy, whereas RTS games are not.
webadmin: web-based administration of a game server
UL: upload (direction of data travel from client to server)
VOIP: Voice Over IP, an application to talk to people while playing your game.
WA: War Arranger. The member of the clan responsible for organizing matches (wars) with other clans.
Windowed: playing your game within a window, rather than full-screen
ZP: zero ping-- an application that calculates 'hits' and 'misses' clientside rather than serverside to allow players with poor ping to play twitchy games. Variations may be called by similar names such as "UnLag".


Also, game names in each community are abbreviated, but I won't list them here. I also tried to steer away from typical in-game 1337 chat, which tends to vary from game to game.



in-game chat (most of these overlap with IM acronyms, but some don't)

...: expression of being at a loss to respond
!: expression of surprise
?: expression of confusion
1336: not quite 1337, or a beginner (noob).
afk: away from keyboard
bbiaf: be back in a few
bg: bad game, usually typed in at the end of a match to indicate something was wrong or unfair
bio: biological break (afk for potty)
brb: be right back, as in will be afk temporarily
gl: good luck
gg: good game, usually typed in at the end of a match as good sportsmanship; very common netiquette for gaming.
ggn: got to go now
gga: good game all
ggs: good games
gj: good job
gtg: got to go
jk: just kidding
nj: nicejob
nt: nice try
L8s, L8r: Later
omg: oh my god
oo(X): out of endurance (ooe), out of power (oop), etc.
otw: on the way
pff/pfft: expression of dismissal
rl: in real life
ttyl: talk to you later
wb: welcome back
wtf: what the ...
wtg: way to go
wth: what the hell
w00t: not an acronym, but expression of joy
zzz: Expression of Boredom


There's more to find/read with a search like this (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=list+of+common+Abbreviation&btnG=Search).

snippet:


abbr. - abbreviation, abbreviated abr. - abridged, abridgment
acad. - academic, academy adj. - adjective, adjourned, adjustment
adm. - administration, admiral adv. - adverb
agr. / agri. / agric. - agricultural, agriculture anon. - anonymous
app. - appended, appendix, appointed approx. - approximately
assn. - association b. - base, bass, bat, battery, bay, book, born, brother
bact. - bacteria, bacteriology bap. - baptized
bib. - Bible, biblical bibliog. - bibliographer, bibliography, bibliographic
biog. - biographer, biography, biographical biol. - biology
bk. - bank, block, book bkg. - banking
bldg. - building blvd. - boulevard
bot. - botanical, botany bp. - bishop
brig. - brigade, brigadier brig. gen. - brigadier general
bro. - brother bur. - bureaus
c.a. - chartered accountant, chief accountant, commercial agent, consular agent, controller of accounts cal. - calendar, caliber, small calorie
cap. - capital, capitalize capt. - captain
cath. - cathedral cc / cc. / c.c. - cubic centimeters
cent. - centigrade, centimeter, central, century cf. - Latin confer = compare
ch. - chaplain, chapter, check (chess), chief, child, children, Latin chirurgia = surgery, church chap. - chaplain, chapter
chem. - chemical, chemist, chemistry chm. - chairman, checkmate (chess)

The full list is available at Common, Uncommon and Specialized Abbreviations (http://www.aresearchguide.com/comabb.html#comabb)

Google is your friend.
:lol:

Skiz
07-11-2005, 06:29 AM
Like it matters but, your post does not give much to the thread and it dont explain why "you" think Skitzo is right.

Probably b/c it's already been posted. But like the others, you didn't read it I guess. All the proof you need is in the Websters definition that's been posted. :dry:

or...

You can look at post #11

Afronaut
07-11-2005, 06:47 AM
Like it matters but, your post does not give much to the thread and it dont explain why "you" think Skitzo is right.

You can look at post #11

Oh, didnt see that while I was doing my little contribution to the thread.
Took a few minutes before I was ready to submit.

My point was/is, Azmans post dont contribute to the thread.
(Its just makes him look like he's your biatch.)
:P

Its a one liner that doesnt contribute, its not more than posting a one single smilie. Which looks like a spam to me (outside teh lounge).

Plus, we're (mods) getting some reports about spam in Games section.
Im merely trying to make a point about Contribution here.
You know, the answers for thread authors questions.

:D

Afronaut
07-11-2005, 06:54 AM
I think there's some stylish differences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Style_guide) to Acronyms etc.
I mean, words can ahve a little different use and/or meanings over the ponds.
You know, the GB vs. US english.

I dont claim to understand it much, im not either and my english is not that good.

btw, im running out of faqs, gotta go.

:D

Busyman
07-11-2005, 01:08 PM
Busyman you are wrong, Skizo is right :-/

Yep. Thanks. :happy:


a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term

I know it doesn't have to be capitalized, that's why I gave an example of fps and a proper noun such as UPS. Sheesh, even the Websters definition you quoted has three examples as such.


NATO, radar, or snafu
Either way you are still wrong, hence why I brought up your usage, not ole Webster. :dry:

FPS is not an acronym. :snooty:

I'll break it down further.

RTS - no
WTC - no
NYC - no
laser - yes
LED - (can be)
LCD - no
FDA - no
FUBAR - yes
mux - yes

USA - ABSOLUTELY NOT (ya could say ooosa though :unsure: )

All the no's, if labeled acronyms, are considered jargon in such labeling.

Busyman
07-11-2005, 01:12 PM
Like it matters but, your post does not give much to the thread and it dont explain why "you" think Skitzo is right.

Probably b/c it's already been posted. But like the others, you didn't read it I guess. All the proof you need is in the Websters definition that's been posted. :dry:

or...

You can look at post #11
...no that is not proof so asmithz is your iatchbay.

MCHeshPants420
07-11-2005, 01:47 PM
Busyman is right, which is surprising because it is usually Americans that get confused on this point. The proof is even in Post#11:



a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term


Here's my Google attempt:The difference between acronyms and abbreviations (http://www.acronym-guide.com/difference-between-acronyms-and-abbreviations.html).

You can trust me, I'm doing a degree in English. :snooty:


Edit: And it is spelled "anagrams".

Busyman
07-11-2005, 02:40 PM
Busyman is right, which is surprising because it is usually Americans that get confused on this point. The proof is even in Post#11:



a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term


Here's my Google attempt:The difference between acronyms and abbreviations (http://www.acronym-guide.com/difference-between-acronyms-and-abbreviations.html).

You can trust me, I'm doing a degree in English. :snooty:


Edit: And it is spelled "anagrams".
Thanks With. :)

Thanks for confirming I wasn't putting my foot in my mouth. :unsure:

I remember this difference from back in high school and it always stuck with me. Very geeky of me. :(

orcutt989
07-11-2005, 03:23 PM
And RTS = Real Time Strategy.

Oh, BTW, they are not anagrams, they're acronyms :manker:
They are not acronyms. They are abbreviations. :busyman:

:ph34r:




ac·ro·nym
n.
A word formed from the initial letters of a name, such as WAC for Women's Army Corps, or by combining initial letters or parts of a series of words, such as radar for radio detecting and ranging.

First Person Shooter FPS


an·a·gram
n.

A word or phrase formed by reordering the letters of another word or phrase, such as satin to stain.
anagrams (used with a sing. verb) A game in which players form words from a group of randomly picked letters.
ab·bre·vi·a·tion
n.

The act or product of shortening.
A shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to represent the complete form, such as Mass. for Massachusetts or USMC for United States Marine Corps.

Acronyms. Speak english?


Don't correct someone unless you know what you are talking about.

Afronaut
07-11-2005, 03:31 PM
Oh boy.

I really want to see Manker's, and ofcourse JPAuls view on this.
:lol:

fot orcut:

lolo 11!!!!111lol leet bik leters

Busyman
07-11-2005, 03:34 PM
They are not acronyms. They are abbreviations. :busyman:

:ph34r:




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n.
A word formed from the initial letters of a name, such as WAC for Women's Army Corps, or by combining initial letters or parts of a series of words, such as radar for radio detecting and ranging.
Thanks but er uh it's been posted....but thanks.

MCHeshPants420
07-11-2005, 03:36 PM
They are not acronyms. They are abbreviations. :busyman:

:ph34r:




ac·ro·nym
n.
A word formed from the initial letters of a name, such as WAC for Women's Army Corps, or by combining initial letters or parts of a series of words, such as radar for radio detecting and ranging.




an·a·gram
n.

A word or phrase formed by reordering the letters of another word or phrase, such as satin to stain.
anagrams (used with a sing. verb) A game in which players form words from a group of randomly picked letters.

ab·bre·vi·a·tion
n.

The act or product of shortening.
A shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to represent the complete form, such as Mass. for Massachusetts or USMC for United States Marine Corps.


Acronyms. Speak english?


Don't correct someone unless you know what you are talking about.


It's pretty simple.

An acronym is a pronouceable word, like RADAR. If it is something like SFA (Scottish Football Association) then it is an abbreviation. The lines seem to be pretty blurred, particularly for Americans. But please don't think posting three excerpts from an online dictionary (without sourcing it ffs) proves anything other than you know how to use Google.

Busyman
07-11-2005, 04:12 PM
They are not acronyms. They are abbreviations. :busyman:

:ph34r:




ac·ro·nym
n.
A word formed from the initial letters of a name, such as WAC for Women's Army Corps, or by combining initial letters or parts of a series of words, such as radar for radio detecting and ranging.

First Person Shooter FPS


an·a·gram
n.

A word or phrase formed by reordering the letters of another word or phrase, such as satin to stain.
anagrams (used with a sing. verb) A game in which players form words from a group of randomly picked letters.
ab·bre·vi·a·tion
n.

The act or product of shortening.
A shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to represent the complete form, such as Mass. for Massachusetts or USMC for United States Marine Corps.

Acronyms. Speak english?


Don't correct someone unless you know what you are talking about.

Oh I missed the rest of your post. Nice edit.


Thanks for proving my point further. Check the examples in your acronym definition. Also, as said before, acronyms are abbreviations but vice-versa.


You are a shit googler and lack common sense.

spelunker121
07-11-2005, 09:06 PM
Afronuat,

Thanx for the comprehensive guide on terminology (perfect)

Afronaut
07-11-2005, 09:38 PM
Afronuat,

Thanx for the comprehensive guide on terminology (perfect)

Well thanks, but I think there's a member or two who disagrees, hehe...
About Google search, learning to use it is a must,
it is the tool for information.
Allthought as they get paid for results etc. saturation it still works and it covers
a lot of sites and stuff.
;)

Also, Wiki is pretty good too.

:D

n18
07-11-2005, 10:05 PM
I don't know why its so hard to comprehend busyman. If its a sequence of initial letters and you read it as a word its an acronym( FIFA, AIDS, LASER, Gestapo). If you still spell the sequence out ( USA, FBI, CIA, ) its an abbreviation. FKING SIMPLE.

Skiz
07-11-2005, 10:14 PM
From www.Dictionary.com

acronym

n : a word formed from the initial letters of a multi-word name

an·a·gram
n.
A word or phrase formed by reordering the letters of another word or phrase, such as satin to stain.

ab·bre·vi·a·tion
n.
A shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to represent the complete form, such as Mass. for Massachusetts or USMC for United States Marine Corps.

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From Meriam-Webster www.m-w.com

ac·ro·nym

: a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term; also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed from initial letters


an·a·gram

: a word or phrase made by transposing the letters of another word or phrase


ab·bre·vi·a·tion

a shortened form of a written word or phrase used in place of the whole <amt is an abbreviation for amount>

Merriam-Websters thesaurus results - Link (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/thesaurus?book=Thesaurus&va=acronym)

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Take your pick. (http://www.onelook.com/?w=acronym&ls=a). They all say the same thing....that I'm right. Case closed for me. I don't need to argue this anymore, it's going nowhere.

asmithz
07-11-2005, 10:22 PM
ac·ro·nym

: a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term; also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed from initial letters

Makes it sound like you both are right. ;)

Busyman
07-11-2005, 10:27 PM
I don't know why its so hard to comprehend busyman. If its a sequence of initial letters and you read it as a word its an acronym( FIFA, AIDS, LASER, Gestapo). If you still spell the sequence out ( USA, FBI, CIA, ) its an abbreviation. FKING SIMPLE.
What in the hell are you talking about? :huh:

That's EXACTLY what I've been saying.

RIF

Busyman
07-11-2005, 10:38 PM
From www.Dictionary.com

acronym

n : a word formed from the initial letters of a multi-word name

an·a·gram
n.
A word or phrase formed by reordering the letters of another word or phrase, such as satin to stain.

ab·bre·vi·a·tion
n.
A shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to represent the complete form, such as Mass. for Massachusetts or USMC for United States Marine Corps.

-------------------------------------------------

From Meriam-Webster www.m-w.com

ac·ro·nym

: a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term; also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed from initial letters


an·a·gram

: a word or phrase made by transposing the letters of another word or phrase


ab·bre·vi·a·tion

a shortened form of a written word or phrase used in place of the whole <amt is an abbreviation for amount>

Merriam-Websters thesaurus results - Link (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/thesaurus?book=Thesaurus&va=acronym)

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Take your pick. (http://www.onelook.com/?w=acronym&ls=a). They all say the same thing....that I'm right. Case closed for me. I don't need to argue this anymore, it's going nowhere.
I hate googlers to an extent. If you see it online it must be correct, right?

So many people call shit like FBI an acronym and that it made it into the dictionary. Do you think I made something like that up? Words can be pronounced as written. Acronyms are words (although made up of course).

Enough ignorant folk like yourself had a brick and made a tower. :dry:

Busyman
07-11-2005, 10:42 PM
ac·ro·nym

: a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term; also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed from initial letters

Makes it sound like you both are right. ;)
Stand up please.

I think Skizo is finished.

MCHeshPants420
07-11-2005, 10:52 PM
I hate googlers to an extent. If you see it online it must be correct, right?

So many people call shit like FBI an acronym and that it made it into the dictionary. Do you think I made something like that up? Words can be pronounced as written. Acronyms are words (although made up of course).

Enough ignorant folk like yourself had a brick and made a tower. :dry:


I hate this googling mentality as well. The internet is plagued with crappy sites with dodgy facts. The online dictionaries are not consistent with each other and the two used by skizo are next to useless. At least use a credible dictionary.

Now I studied rhetoric last year in my English degree. I was lectured by an American professor of English language. Her explanation was that acronyms are a form of abbreviation, they form a pronouncable word. Initialism is what we call it when we have an abbreviation like FBI or NFL.

If you need further proof then the example I posted supports this. Look at the words "acrostic" and "acronym" together. Both have the same prefix so should mean the same kind of thing. If acronym means what some of the google-numbskulls are saying then every poem ever written can be described as "acrostic".

asmithz
07-11-2005, 10:57 PM
Makes it sound like you both are right. ;)
Stand up please.

I think Skizo is finished.

Why does this bother you so much, its so pointless. Ok your right, does that make a differnace. Not to me, at all. ;)

Busyman
07-11-2005, 11:04 PM
Stand up please.

I think Skizo is finished.

Why does this bother you so much, its so pointless. Ok your right, does that make a differnace. Not to me, at all. ;)
I must remember...most of you are sheep and do not seek to learn anything....except the first hit on Google.

Of course it makes no difference to you. Skizo has zipped up and you can go to your next job.

asmithz
07-11-2005, 11:07 PM
Why does this bother you so much, its so pointless. Ok your right, does that make a differnace. Not to me, at all. ;)
I must remember...most of you are sheep and do not seek to learn anything....except the first hit on Google.

Of course it makes no difference to you. Skizo has zipped up and you can go to your next job.

Yep your so right :thumbsup:


Does making a fuse on the internet make you sleep better at night?

Busyman
07-11-2005, 11:07 PM
I hate googlers to an extent. If you see it online it must be correct, right?

So many people call shit like FBI an acronym and that it made it into the dictionary. Do you think I made something like that up? Words can be pronounced as written. Acronyms are words (although made up of course).

Enough ignorant folk like yourself had a brick and made a tower. :dry:


I hate this googling mentality as well. The internet is plagued with crappy sites with dodgy facts. The online dictionaries are not consistent with each other and the two used by skizo are next to useless. At least use a credible dictionary.

Now I studied rhetoric last year in my English degree. I was lectured by an American professor of English language. Her explanation was that acronyms are a form of abbreviation, they form a pronouncable word. Initialism is what we call it when we have an abbreviation like FBI or NFL.

If you need further proof then the example I posted supports this. Look at the words "acrostic" and "acronym" together. Both have the same prefix so should mean the same kind of thing. If acronym means what some of the google-numbskulls are saying then every poem ever written can be described as "acrostic".
That was a pretty good site and it went along mostly with what I learned.
It offered some new info as well.

Thank you. :)

GepperRankins
07-12-2005, 12:02 AM
an acronym is an abbreviation but an abbreviation is not an acronym... 'k?

Busyman
07-12-2005, 12:13 AM
From post #7

All acronyms are abbreviations but not vice-versa.
:dry:

GepperRankins
07-12-2005, 12:19 AM
From post #7

All acronyms are abbreviations but not vice-versa.
:dry:
but i tend to ignore your posts.



j/k

why the google hating though? surely kids learning things and doing research is good :unsure:

Cheese
07-12-2005, 12:30 AM
Wikipedia has a good page about acronyms and initialism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronyms#Written_usage


Initialism originally referred to abbreviations formed from initials, without reference to pronunciation, but during the middle portion of the twentieth century, when acronyms and initialisms saw more use than ever before, the word acronym was coined for abbreviations which are pronounced as a word, like "NATO" or "AIDS". The term initialism is now typically taken to refer to abbreviations which are pronounced by sounding out the name of each constituent letter (e.g. HTML). Some have erroneously extended the term acronym in meaning to describe all abbreviations made from initial letters, regardless of pronunciation.

They also link to a huge list of acronyms, initialisms and acronym-initialism hybrids.


The etymology of the word also supports Busyman's point:


1943 coinage from acro-, comb. form of Gk. akros "tip, end" (see acrid) + Eng. -onym "name" (abstracted from homonym; see name). The practice was non-existent before 20c. except in cabalistic esoterica and acrostic poetry.

The second part actually means "name".

Busyman
07-12-2005, 12:35 AM
I must remember...most of you are sheep and do not seek to learn anything....except the first hit on Google.

Of course it makes no difference to you. Skizo has zipped up and you can go to your next job.

Yep your so right :thumbsup:


Does making a fuse on the internet make you sleep better at night?
Yep, especially when I see

Folks have spotty reading comprehension
Use the first google site they see
Are compelled to suck salty balls when they could have kept their mouth closed
Are not humble and act like they can't admit wrongness

Besides all that shit.....IT'S ENTATANEMUNT!!!! :01: