London Bomb's (Part II)

[Peerzy]

Just watching teh news, reports of a coloured man with a rucksack "bursting into flames" on a tude train. 3 London stations evacuated and there has been an incident on a bus in east London.

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[RPerry]

Just watching teh news, reports of a coloured man with a rucksack "bursting into flames" on a tude train. 3 London stations evacuated and there has been an incident on a bus in east London.

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Just heard the same from my mother -in -law, off to see the news :cry:

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http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/t99006.html

[4play]

seems nobody hurt as these bombs where very small or did not detonate. hell even one of the people with the bomb strapped to his back is reported to be walking.

seems a suspect package at shepards bush (hammersmith and city line station), warren street and oval while one went off on a bus in hackney.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4703777.stm

[Gemby!]

ah crap - shepherds bush is two stops away from me :angry:

glad i didnt go shopping today though, would've went to shepherds bush :pinch:

[4play]

shepards bush sucks for shopping ealing or hammersmith are better.

that is a really girly comment :blushing:

[Gemby!]

well when i say shopping there we would've met up there then went hammersmith :P

cos it sucks

cinema there is decent though. well its the nearest

[DanB]

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[Gemby!]

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[DanB]

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[ziggyjuarez]

seems nobody hurt as these bombs where very small or did not detonate. hell even one of the people with the bomb strapped to his back is reported to be walking.

seems a suspect package at shepards bush (hammersmith and city line station), warren street and oval while one went off on a bus in hackney.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4703777.stm
what did the guy look like?Get Him!

[Gemby!]

stockwell station has been closed ...but its unknown if its another bomber suspect man person threat OR shooting one of them

[vivitron 15]

theyve closed the station at stockwell - apparantly shot a guy dead, and police have surrounded a mosque in east london

[manker]

They bundled some Asian guy to the floor of a tube train and shot him, point blank, 5 times.

JUST IN CASE, no doubt.

[DarthInsinuate]

woot, police with guns, great idea

[Money Fist]

yep
BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG "FREEZE"
thats how we do in Stockwell

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yep
BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG "FREEZE"
thats how we do in Stockwell

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it seems the dude fell when entering the train... maybe teh cops thought he would blow himself up? so they shot him 5 times? :unsure:

[DarthInsinuate]

BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG "FREEZE" "now, get up, Bitch"

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BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG "FREEZE" "Get up, Bitch"

:lol:

you missed 5 times?

[DarthInsinuate]

i typed it quickly and messed up the joke :shame:

[bigboab]

The suspect trips when running into the train. He is pounced upon by three 'policemen', he is shot in the head five times.

Extracts from 'news as it happens;

The police tried to revive him. (I bet they did)
They had a helicopter ambulance immediately at the scene. (there are a lot of helicopter ambulances on the tube:unsure:)
I thought that the woman newscaster was trying to 'put' words into the witnesses mouths. 'Are you sure he tripped or did the 'police' push him'?

Let's hope it was one of the culprits.
Sadly they wont be able to interview him to get information on the rest.

The police said that they would shoot to kill. It appears that they are now doing just that.

[Money Fist]

i hope CCTV footage gets realesed
that clown jumped the barrier wearing a thick padded jacket (on a sunnyday)
he was asking for it bomb or not

and yep the cops have been ordered to shoot to kill bomb suspects

[DanB]

Serves him right. If armed police tell you to stop then you stop unless you really, really have something to hide, its not rocket science is it?

Point blank execution, I like :01:

Its not like they just shot him for falling over, they had been chasing him through the station ffs

[Barbarossa]

Yes, he won't make that mistake again... :ph34r:

[Rat Faced]

And apparently he's not connected with anything..

oops

[DanB]

They haven't he said he wasn't connected at all, they just said he wasn't one of the 4 men they had CCTV footage of

[Busyman]

They bundled some Asian guy to the floor of a tube train and shot him, point blank, 5 times.

JUST IN CASE, no doubt.
;)

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the guy that was killed wasn't a terrorist :ohmy:

[Rat Faced]

LONDON (AP) - The man shot and killed on a subway car by London police in front of horrified commuters apparently had nothing to do with this month's bombings on the city's transit system, police said Saturday in expressing their ``regrets.''

A day earlier, the police commissioner said the man was ``directly linked'' to Thursday's attacks, in which bombs on three subway trains and a bus failed to detonate properly. No one was injured.

``For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets,'' a police spokesman said on customary condition of anonymity.

Source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5161962,00.html)



You were saying Dan? :rolleyes:

:ph34r:

[bigboab]

LONDON (AP) - The man shot and killed on a subway car by London police in front of horrified commuters apparently had nothing to do with this month's bombings on the city's transit system, police said Saturday in expressing their ``regrets.''

A day earlier, the police commissioner said the man was ``directly linked'' to Thursday's attacks, in which bombs on three subway trains and a bus failed to detonate properly. No one was injured.

``For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets,'' a police spokesman said on customary condition of anonymity.

Source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5161962,00.html)



You were saying Dan? :rolleyes:

:ph34r:

I disagree RF. This fellow if not guilty of the bombings was guilty of something else. Why else would he try to evade the police? By running away from the police he was making the police think that he was guilty. This gave them every right to take the action that they did.

So an 'innocent' person is killed, if so that is regrettable. Hundreds of innocent people are being killed in the bombings. I say carry on with the shoot to kill policy. It will reap dividends in the end.

[DanB]

LONDON (AP) - The man shot and killed on a subway car by London police in front of horrified commuters apparently had nothing to do with this month's bombings on the city's transit system, police said Saturday in expressing their ``regrets.''

A day earlier, the police commissioner said the man was ``directly linked'' to Thursday's attacks, in which bombs on three subway trains and a bus failed to detonate properly. No one was injured.

``For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets,'' a police spokesman said on customary condition of anonymity.

Source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5161962,00.html)



You were saying Dan? :rolleyes:

:ph34r:

On the day I said it they were saying he was directly connected :P


A day earlier, the police commissioner said the man was ``directly linked'' to Thursday's attacks, in which bombs on three subway trains and a bus failed to detonate properly. No one was injured.

I don't really care though, as Boab said he was up to something or else he would have stopped when challenged

[Guillaume]

I don't really care though, as Boab said he was up to something or else he would have stopped when challenged


The guy probably was trying to travel without a ticket. Surely he deserved to be shot. :angry:

[Rat Faced]

Dunno, there are people being arrested and held for weeks without charge under Terrorism Acts around the world, including here.

If I was asian and some copper pointed a gun at me in London atm, im pretty sure i'd run for it too. :ph34r:


Boab, you wouldnt say that if your skin was darker than it is :angry:

[DarthInsinuate]

most people would be frightened by the sight of a gun and freeze, regardless of ethnicity

[Rat Faced]

Fear = Andrenalin = Flight or Fight..

They were 3ft away from the guy, and he was on the ground when they shot him 5 times ffs :P

[DarthInsinuate]

most people would be frightened by the sight of a gun and freeze, regardless of ethnicity
except for black people of course, they would probably pull out an uzi and shout "i'm gonna fuck you up, pig bitch"

[bigboab]

I don't really care though, as Boab said he was up to something or else he would have stopped when challenged


The guy probably was trying to travel without a ticket. Surely he deserved to be shot. :angry:

If he was innocent he did not deserve to be shot. Nobody is arguing about that.
Look at the evidence.

He comes out of a house that is under surveillance.
He is an Electrician (bomb making?)
He refuses to surrender when asked to do so by the police.
He is dressed in a heavy coat in the middle of July.
He runs away and on to a Tube train.
The Police carried out the instructions recently issued to them about shooting 'in the head'.

Have I missed anything?
I think more has yet to be revealed(If allowed).

[DanB]

I don't really care though, as Boab said he was up to something or else he would have stopped when challenged


The guy probably was trying to travel without a ticket. Surely he deserved to be shot. :angry:

Get a £10 fine or run away from the armed police and risk your life. Hmmm whats the sensible decision there?


RF, so if you have a bomb strapped to you can you not detonate it when you are on the floor? :unsure:

[DanB]

If I was asian and some copper pointed a gun at me in London atm, im pretty sure i'd run for it too.

Then you'd end up getting shot too :rolleyes:

[Rat Faced]

Maybe he had a few pockets full of dope... :ph34r:

[bigboab]

Dunno, there are people being arrested and held for weeks without charge under Terrorism Acts around the world, including here.

If I was asian and some copper pointed a gun at me in London atm, im pretty sure i'd run for it too. :ph34r:


Boab, you wouldnt say that if your skin was darker than it is :angry:

I have been called a Bl*k Bar Steward a few times.:)

The colour of your skin should not make you feel guilty. Nor should it give you an excuse from obeying lawful instructions to 'surrender'. Would you have felt great if this fellow had detonated a bomb on the tube and killed more people?

I'm sorry but it has reached the stage where we cannot take that chance.
IMO a small amount of innocent lives lost is better than a large amount of innocent lives lost.

We will not solve this problem by sticking to the European Human Rights or any other Do-Gooding establishment. We will only do it by hitting the bastards before they can do damage.

P.S. there is absolutely no excuse for the taking of innocent lives, unless in error. No matter what the cause. We are not talking 'open war' here.

[Busyman]

most people would be frightened by the sight of a gun and freeze, regardless of ethnicity
except for black people of course, they would probably pull out an uzi and shout "i'm gonna fuck you up, pig bitch"
You sound like a idiot. STFU.

Anyway...

The didn't deserve to be killed but at the same time he was an idiot...one, for a coat on in the middle of July and two, for running from authorities shortly after a terrorist bombing.

I wonder if a terrorist paid him (if he really wasn't one) to test the security.

Now authorities shooting him 5 times while he was pinned sounds a little far-fetched and over the top as well.

[vidcc]

IMO a small amount of innocent lives lost is better than a large amount of innocent lives lost.
I am genuinely surprised at this from you Boab. Perhaps because of your view on the death penalty.

The logic is IMO without flaw in itself, although we agree that the loss of no innocent lives would be even better..... What a pity we don't live in a perfect world :(

[bigboab]

IMO a small amount of innocent lives lost is better than a large amount of innocent lives lost.
I am genuinely surprised at this from you Boab. Perhaps because of your view on the death penalty.

The logic is IMO without flaw in itself, although we agree that the loss of no innocent lives would be even better..... What a pity we don't live in a perfect world :(

When at war you amend your views according to the situation.:)
I have always held the belief that the shoot to kill policy works.


P.s. what were my views on Capital Punishment? I've fogotten.:(

[vidcc]

P.s. what were my views on Capital Punishment? I've fogotten.:(


the "impression" I got was you were against it..... partly because of the fear an innocent person may die.

[bigboab]

P.s. what were my views on Capital Punishment? I've fogotten.:(


the "impression" I got was you were against it..... partly because of the fear an innocent person may die.

No I'm all for it. Providing that there is no question of guilt.

[Biggles]

Whilst I would agree that every effort is made to ensure that the public is safe I would quite like to be safe from my police too.

This poor chap was under surveillance, followed, and finally jumped and shot whilst going about his lawful business. The intelligence agencies have a lot to answer for. They are complaining about being stretched and yet waste resources on a Brazilian electrician who it would appear has absolutely nothing to do with any form of terrorism.

One suspects it is the same intelligence that had us believing Iraq was armed to the teeth. We as citizens cannot know if we have been mistakenly targeted. I have in the past had an occasion to make a mad dash for a bus or a train. I would be most displeased to have my brains blown out because some "intelligence" goon had told a group of plain clothes policemen behind me that I was a mad bomber. To be fair to the police, by the time this kind of mis-information has reached them they can act in no other way.

Between bombers and mis-directed police, I think London is probably a place best avoided at the moment.

[vidcc]

the "impression" I got was you were against it..... partly because of the fear an innocent person may die.

No I'm all for it. Providing that there is no question of guilt.
So we are as one in this.

I got the impression because you raised a question to me about it as if I was fine with it even though innocent people have been executed. You didn't state your own view on it as a whole..The question just seem anti-death sentence. But now it's clear and I am no longer surprised by your statement on this thread. :)

[bigboab]

No I'm all for it. Providing that there is no question of guilt.
So we are as one in this.

I got the impression because you raised a question to me about it as if I was fine with it even though innocent people have been executed. You didn't state your own view on it as a whole..The question just seem anti-death sentence. But now it's clear and I am no longer surprised by your statement on this thread. :)

I move with the times Vid.:) Trouble is the Times ends up in the Paper Recycle Bin.:cry:

[GepperRankins]

if a guy in plain clothes pointed a gun at me i'd probably leg it too

[DarthInsinuate]

if a guy in plain clothes pointed a gun at me i'd probably leg it too
what if they were shouting "police"?

[Gripper]

I dont care if they say puliss,thankyou or excuse me,it still put the shits up ya to have a gun pointed at ya,but you dont run!

[Busyman]

Whilst I would agree that every effort is made to ensure that the public is safe I would quite like to be safe from my police too.

This poor chap was under surveillance, followed, and finally jumped and shot whilst going about his lawful business. The intelligence agencies have a lot to answer for. They are complaining about being stretched and yet waste resources on a Brazilian electrician who it would appear has absolutely nothing to do with any form of terrorism.

One suspects it is the same intelligence that had us believing Iraq was armed to the teeth. We as citizens cannot know if we have been mistakenly targeted. I have in the past had an occasion to make a mad dash for a bus or a train. I would be most displeased to have my brains blown out because some "intelligence" goon had told a group of plain clothes policemen behind me that I was a mad bomber. To be fair to the police, by the time this kind of mis-information has reached them they can act in no other way.

Between bombers and mis-directed police, I think London is probably a place best avoided at the moment.
Intelligence is still supposed to follow leads Biggles. :dry:

If an officer asks you to stop, fucking stop. It ain't rocket science.

It's almost like, "if guns are pointed at you, you don't quickly reach into your coat....even if it is for your wallet." :ermm:

[vidcc]

If an officer asks you to stop, fucking stop. It ain't rocket science.

It's almost like, "if guns are pointed at you, you don't quickly reach into your coat....even if it is for your wallet." :ermm:

I'm not sure how it would have affected this man as he was Brazilian by all accounts but the UK doesn't have armed police as a norm. The armed units are "special".
They don't have the gun culture we have so wouldn't risk being shot by getting out of their car when pulled over for a traffic violation and wouldn't in all honesty be expecting to be shot by police officers.
Admittedly they would surely identify themselves "Halt...armed police" but then as I said it's not typical to have armed police and if these were non uniform it wouldn't be automatic to assume they were police.

I wonder if they fire warning shots

You must have heard the joke about the British policeman "Stop....or I'll say stop again" ;)

[Rat Faced]

He came from Brazil...

Dont people "disappear" there sometimes?

Maybe this is why he runs from armed coppers when he aint done anything?

[Busyman]

If an officer asks you to stop, fucking stop. It ain't rocket science.

It's almost like, "if guns are pointed at you, you don't quickly reach into your coat....even if it is for your wallet." :ermm:

I'm not sure how it would have affected this man as he was Brazilian by all accounts but the UK doesn't have armed police as a norm. The armed units are "special".
They don't have the gun culture we have so wouldn't risk being shot by getting out of their car when pulled over for a traffic violation and wouldn't in all honesty be expecting to be shot by police officers.
Admittedly they would surely identify themselves "Halt...armed police" but then as I said it's not typical to have armed police and if these were non uniform it wouldn't be automatic to assume they were police.

I wonder if they fire warning shots

You must have heard the joke about the British policeman "Stop....or I'll say stop again" ;)
Yes I have.

One caveat.....there was a fucking terrorist act committed just recently. The guy was an idiot and had been in the UK for awhile.

[DanB]

didnt i post in here? :unsure:

[manker]

didnt i post in here? :unsure:I think it was in teh drawing room that you declared urban war against Brazilian Electicians :D

[vidcc]

Yes I have.

One caveat.....there was a fucking terrorist act committed just recently. The guy was an idiot and had been in the UK for awhile.

I did say I couldn't vouch for the way this foreigner acted, I was talking about British people in general who because they are not used to armed police generally would possibly not have the automatic reaction Americans would.
But on the point of a terrorist act just committed, the British are far more relaxed about those kind of things than the Americans are. This may have something to do with the fact that they have experienced it a lot more.

I can't remember who I made the analogy to but when it came to reactions to terrorism the USA was like a new parent that will sterilise the bottle if the baby drops it before giving it back by boiling it..... Britain is more like the parent that has 4 children and sterilising consists of wiping with shirt tails.

[maebach]

These bombings are going too far, I think there's gonna be one masive attack in the end. I can smell it from Canada.