why all ed2k link look like this ....

[skylove]

Hi there


I was trying to search the site and i see that all ed2k link u can't check on them u have to copy the link in the IE and then add them in Emule ... i'am a user at anther eD2k Site and they have somethign Diffrents here is a Screenshot ..

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4797/c2sed2k7ab.th.jpg (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c2sed2k7ab.jpg)

Example Thread i'am talking about
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/t99113.html

maybe u can do the same in the Screenshot .. just Seggestion iti is really hard and time to keep copy the link ... :)

:)

[Afronaut]

I'll move this to the ERTB section and some of our hackers can answer it.

I dont posess the required skillz, yo.

:D

[RealitY]

These hashes were posted without using the Submit ED2K Hash (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=91&verifiedmd=tr). Ive already sent a pm to the member whos posted the one your referring to along with others in the same way. You can see the difference in using the script and not which can be seen HERE (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?p=1099535#post1099535). Of course its great to have a new user making contributions although there is a learning phase for us all. If you look around the site youll see post that look like THIS (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=95701) also.

If you find that the copy and paste dosent work for those links its due to the fact that when long strings of text are posted on vb forums without any special formatting that there is a character limit and a space is inserted along the way. So along the way "abty42" becomes "abt y42" when posted. However if you paste the link in your browser and remove the space prior to clicking enter the hash will act as it was supposed to.

The script on the forum was created to make posting hashes simpler, create a nice layout and avoid issues such as these. When I noticed some of these posts earlier I decided to also look into finding a way to hack the character limit as well in case situations like these appear again...

[RealitY]

While talking with rossco we decided to make it so than ANY new posts being make in the Verified sections will have to use the script form now on. I think this is best and will avoid any future confusion...

[uNz[i]]

While talking with rossco we decided to make it so than ANY new posts being make in the Verified sections will have to use the script form now on. I think this is best and will avoid any future confusion...
Which finally explains why my ed2k linking guide was set adrift from its pin and the technique I so painstakingly demonstrated no longer works outside of the verifieds section too.

Thanks for letting me know guys. :frusty:

btw, do you realize that my guide is the number 1 result when you search Google for "ed2k hash linking"? and a search for "ed2k linking" returns the guide as result number 4?

I thought Google hits were supposed to be paramount. Breaking the technique makes me and the forum look like we don't know what we're doing.
So yeah... well done. :dry:

[RealitY]

Wasnt intened to offend. There has just been numerous post that havent used your guide or similar nor the script. This is confusing for those accessing the hashes as they are not only inconvenient but non functional due to the spacing. Its also become a bit confusing form our stand point to either constantly mod the area and or alter the posts.

It was decided based on those factors and the fact that the script is bug free that we know of for ed2k hashes and that it would be best to simply make posting within the sections use the script by default. If you look at recent posts you will see they now all look as they should and how they will need to be to attract more members to the site. Its just simply the best solution considering all factors...

[uNz[i]]

Wasnt intened to offend.
I was only offended by the fact that my guide was cut loose without any notice to me from the team - either before or after the fact.

I took the trouble to write that guide to fulfil a request by yourself. Is it too much to expect a heads up via PM when forum policy is to be changed so maybe I can alter the guide to reflect that policy?

There has just been numerous post that havent used your guide or similar nor the script. This is confusing for those accessing the hashes as they are not only inconvenient but non functional due to the spacing. Its also become a bit confusing form our stand point to either constantly mod the area and or alter the posts.
Thats the fault of lazy people, not because of the guide or rossco's script.
I can appreciate that not everyone takes the time to read the pinned guides, but saying there have been "numerous posts" that didn't use guide or script hardly justifies cutting said guide loose. There have been many that have used it too. I've gotten PMs thanking me for making filesharing easy.

Just a simple link to rossco's verifieds form and/or my guide will soon fix people posting broken links. Doesn't even have to be a mod doing it. Any ordinary member can post the link(s) with a request for the original poster to edit their malformed ed2k link accordingly. I have no problem sparing the occasional hour to check links...

It was decided based on those factors and the fact that the script is bug free that we know of for ed2k hashes and that it would be best to simply make posting within the sections use the script by default. If you look at recent posts you will see they now all look as they should and how they will need to be to attract more members to the site. Its just simply the best solution considering all factors...
Your logic is flawed. Take a look at the amount of page views the guide has compared to every other guide in the same section. More than double, and in the months it's been on the forum not one person has needed to ask any questions once they've read it. That's a crystal clear indication that the guide is also bug free.

...and on top of that, the fact remains that the guide is still bringing in Google traffic. Which is what Rookie wants - Google Adsense revenue.

So. We're left with two possibilities:

1. Re-enable normal hash linking outside of the verifieds section (at least) so we don't look like a bunch of wallys to the people coming here via Google's links to the guide.

2. Delete the guide and lose the Google traffic it brings to the forum.

It's up to you. But I'd ask Rookie first before you take money out of his pocket though... :)

[RealitY]

I seem to recall having a conversation with you just after we added the script in which you stated you guessed your guide would be deemed useless due to the ease of the script so I wouldve thought based on that you would be expecting something along these lines as times change. Of course we appreciate the effort but its just the way it is now.

Youve taken this to harshly and seems your being a silly about it. Ive had guides on this forum prior to being a mod and they were removed at times without notice based on when it was deemed they should be. I had no clue you intended to get this worked up about it. There is much time others the Team and myself spend also that at times that is scraped. Fact is dont contribute if you intend to get this upset nor did I think you would as Im quite surprised at all this.

I dont think you know whats occurred within the Verifieds as you dont post within the section much that I know of. Im not even sure youve ever even used the script and have managed an argument here without the knowledge of the most important factor. All sites I know that have Verifieds use links not paste which is what was being left in posts which addition are not even function due to the spaces.

Simply calling new members lazy is not the point as most may not have the time to go to the effort to create links in the previous way as shown in your guide and may just simply find it complicated or time consuming. With the script all these problems are simplified and just easier on everyone. This is why it has been decided to make posting in the sections go directly to the script, This is best for the site, those who post, and those who use the hashes also.

What remains even more ridiculous is your guide is still there although a couple of slots below. If it cant be seen its due to the visibility of the section due to age default. Ive already looked into how that section could have a longer default so that your guide will show to all including new visitors if its needed which may cure your frustrations...

I just noticed this has already been done.

[manker]

I don't believe this.

RealitY - you unpinned the bloke's guide which he took time and trouble to put together, a simple heads up of your intentions is a pre-requisite I'd have thought. If you fail to do that then say sorry. How blindingly obvious is that.

Instead you've attacked him about his knowledge of the subject and called him 'silly' and 'ridiculous'.

Now, in the last month you've pissed off members on three occasions, that I can think of, to the point where they've posted at length in this section and complained specifically about you. No other mod, just you.

Either you're getting victimised my mean spirited members or you're really getting on people's nerves by making particularly poor judgement calls. Which is it, I wonder.

Sort it out.

[RealitY]

As I stated I had already discussed this with him and the post is still there also. Ive never know anyone to get a pm prior to a pin being unpinned althouguh for the future I guess we should. If the Team was suppoise to some still owe me appoligies also that I coulve taken the same offense to as well as others Im sure. I have also pm him regarding this and future matters to avoid any more situations of the like.

If Ive offended him I do appoligize as it was hardly my intention and as I already stated it wasnt intended to offend. I do think its been over reacted to especially considering the post has moved only a few slots down and is still clearly visable to Google and Guests also. If you have your views changed in your cp though for a shorter period however it may not be which is where the confusion may be...

[tesco]

I don't see the point in having the guide still pinned if no one will be needing it.


(...)and the technique I so painstakingly demonstrated no longer works outside of the verifieds section too.
What do you mean doens't work outside the verifieds section? It works anywhere on teh forum.

[Guillaume]

I don't see the point in having the guide still pinned if no one will be needing it.

Erm. uNz[i] already adressed that point.

the fact remains that the guide is still bringing in Google traffic. Which is what Rookie wants - Google Adsense revenue.

[tesco]

Erm. uNz[i] already adressed that point.

the fact remains that the guide is still bringing in Google traffic. Which is what Rookie wants - Google Adsense revenue.
And it still will...
The guide wasn't deleted, it's still only 2 posts below the stickies, so what's the difference?

[DanB]

I don't see the point in having the guide still pinned if no one will be needing it.


(...)and the technique I so painstakingly demonstrated no longer works outside of the verifieds section too.
What do you mean doens't work outside the verifieds section? It works anywhere on teh forum.


wow your post changed somewhat :blink:

[manker]

Ive never know anyone to get a pm prior to a pin being unpinnedYou've only been a mod for ten minutes. How would you know.

The point is not whether there's been a precident, but if a PM would have been the right thing to do. Not only from a common decency point of view, but also because a simple PM would have avioded this situation of a member complaining about you - again.

Do you see how that makes sense.
If Ive offended him I do appoligizeAt last!

Now why was it necessary for me to post before you deigned to do that.

[manker]

I don't see the point in having the guide still pinned if no one will be needing it.


What do you mean doens't work outside the verifieds section? It works anywhere on teh forum.


wow your post changed somewhat :blink:Yeah, RealitY's did too, altered completely from a simple apology to the almost incoherent bilge that's there now.

[{I}{K}{E}]

the only thing that changed is that the thread isnt a sticky anymore?

the thread is still right under it.. so whats the big problem? :huh:

Imo we don't need to send a PM when we unstick a thread that isnt 'important/helpfull' anymore because of some forum changes.


and manker what is your problem with Reality? (always saying he isn't a mod for so long blablabla)

[DanB]

He's changed twice


I guess they got the story straight in Team Chat. United front and all that :ph34r:

[manker]

and manker what is your problem with Reality? (always saying he isn't a mod for so long)He keeps doing things that I find really irritating.

As to mentioning that he hasn't been a mod for that long ... :D

[manker]

Imo we don't need to send a PM when we unstick a thread that isnt 'important/helpfull' anymore because of some forum changes. Now you're doing the edit thing :dry:

Well you should send a PM. It's polite and helps avoid unpleasant situations like this.

Of course, if you don't care about how the members feel, then don't bother pming them when you deem their work 'not helpful' anymore.

[RealitY]

How would you know.
During my stay on the board as a member I had quite a few pins and most were unpinned at some point and I was never pm regarding it so that how.


The point is not whether there's been a precident, but if a PM would have been the right thing to do.
As I stated I think a pm would be best for the future. However I dont think I couldve forseen this happening considering it never has before and I dont know of anyone ever getting a pm prior to a post being unpinned. I hardly intended to offended him especially considering we had discussed this previosly.

Its seems that you will make a hill out of a peebble first chance you get with me and so be it I guess...

[RealitY]

I think he should be welcome to post here and discuss this if he wants. I think this is all a little much considering the situation. I think the confusion most likely lays that his cp is set to show only current posts and when he visted the section thought it had vanished. This wouldve also given him the impression which Google could not find the post which is not the case. Perhaps all a bit of a misunderstanding or at least I hope so.

I have also started to take a look into why some members have age defaults set differntly than others and to see if all members can be set to the sam age views unless they specifically wnat to change them in their cp options. I also am looking into making it so that the same age view will apply to new sign ups...

[MCHeshPants420]

We should be allowed to vote who should be the next Forum Star. I have a feeling I know who would win.

[manker]

During my stay on the board as a member I had quite a few pins and most were unpinned at some point and I was never pm regarding it so that how.


The point is not whether there's been a precident, but if a PM would have been the right thing to do.
As I stated I think a pm would be best for the future. However I dont think I couldve forseen this happening considering it never has before and I dont know of anyone ever getting a pm prior to a post being unpinned. I hardly intended to offended him especially considering we had discussed this previosly.

Its seems that you will make a hill out of a peebble first chance you get with me and so be it I guess...Cool, then. That's all I wanted to say.

I don't go out of my way to have a go at you, it just seems that way because of the newbie mod jibe. I try to share my bonhomie around the team equally but it doesn't always work out like that.






Now I've just gotta convince IKE that a PM is the best way to go. Btw, the forum ignore function sucks :dry:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4199/mikejoens8ce.jpg

[uNz[i]]

Funny how they close ranks rather than admitting they've screwed up isn't it?



Imo we don't need to send a PM when we unstick a thread that isnt 'important/helpfull' anymore because of some forum changes. Now you're doing the edit thing :dry:

Well you should send a PM. It's polite and helps avoid unpleasant situations like this.

Of course, if you don't care about how the members feel, then don't bother pming them when you deem their work 'not helpful' anymore.
Spot on manker - and I'm not going to put up with such cavalier treatment anymore. All I asked for was a bit of common courtesy. Instead I get insults and my efforts discounted.

The service around here is terrible. :snooty: I'm taking my business elsewhere.
I'm deleting my ed2k and RSS guides seeing as my input isn't required or appreciated. I also hereby withdraw permission for the FST forum to use the guide I wrote for the forum's official RSS help too.

@ RealitY - Call me silly or rediculous all you like, but know that your response just cost Brian Google revenue. You really need to work on those people skills.

@ Ike - I suggest you and the team seriously rethink what constitutes a forum contributor when it comes to adding members to the contributor user group. There's more to being a contributor than posting so many verifieds per month. Many members have put in a lot of time and effort to make FST what it is today. Those members' efforts still haven't been recognized to date and that is an injustice.

@ rossco - It's not just about a post getting and staying pinned. It's about respect and consideration. You are one of the few active mods who I have no problem with. Your verifieds script is an excellent piece of work, and I wish you every success with all your future endeavors.

@ Everyone else at FST - Thanks for all the fish. :wave:

Goodbye. :bye:

[RealitY]

']I'm not going to put up with such cavalier treatment anymore. All I asked for was a bit of common courtesy. Instead I get insults and my efforts discounted.
Once again we had discussed this before as I stated. Although it was a while back I didnt think you wouldve forgotten already. As for insults Im not sure thats accurate. I do think youve over reacted and are being a bit silly, not meant to offend, although if so I appoligize for that. As for the word ridiculous it was used in the context that I thought it was ridiculous considering your post could be seen just a few slots down from where it was. As for your efforts nobody has discounted them and Ive cleary thanked you many times in pm conversations Ive had with you.

The service around here is terrible.
Seems all was fine between you and me untill your guide was unpinned and lowered a couple of slots.

I'm deleting my ed2k and RSS guides seeing as my input isn't required or appreciated. I also hereby withdraw permission for the FST forum to use the guide I wrote for the forum's official RSS help too.
First off nobody mentioned it wasnt appreciated as I stated above and as for you deleting them I think that speaks for your own character. As for your rss guide I had also mentioned to you in a pm nicely that we were removing rss feeds on most seperate sections only keeping the main site and news and I guess even though Ive discussed that with you via pm as you want your response to me was to delete it.

Goodbye.
I feel youve made a harsh decision and maybe after thought youde reconsider although if not so be it...