Dell with a capital H

[Jon L. Obscene]

Fucking Dell puters suck in a big way, not only do they suck but they blow at the same time :frusty:

I'm trying to fix a friends, and it simply will NOT boot from disc, nor can I get into bios to set the boot sequence.
I've even phoned Dell and she just told me everything I've already done.

Theoretically I could take the drive out and boot it, which gives me the option to get to bios.........but........being a piece of shit Dell it only has usb ports (ie keyboard) so without an os the keyboard does'nt work.
I can't even take the drive out an whack it in my puter so I can format it because Dell use some weird shit plugs/sockets on their drives.

Omg I wish it was mine cos I'd drive over it with a stolen steam roller :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: fucks sake!!!!!

Any ideas? :(

Jonno :cool:

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[manker]

I have a Dell PC in the house. Cheap as chips and not had any problems with it.

It also has normal ports as well as usbs for the keyboard and mouse.

The only thing I'll say about the Dell is that it's really difficult to upgrade, simply fitting another HD or optical drive is teh hard because of lack of space in the case and the awkward way everything fits together.


Duno what you're going to do about your mate's PC if you can't get a keyboard to work :unsure:

[GepperRankins]

i've had a usb keyboard for this and my last motherboard. it's worked fine in the bios for both, even without windows installed whatever difference that makes :unsure:

[Jon L. Obscene]

Yeah I know not all Dell's are bad, just the several I've come up against, Dimensions.

I'm thinking of formatting the drive using the right click and format in "My Computer"
But not sure how that will work because I still have the problem that it wont boot from disc.
Like I said, I got the option to go into bios but because no normal ports for keyboard and no os, meaning no drivers for usb I can't just hit the 1 lil button to take me into bios, have you ANY idea how annoying that is.

As for upgrades, well yeah thats a joke, upgrade this one if I bluetack the new drive to the case :frusty:

Thing is, it's not a bad spec puter, 3ghz p4, 1gb ram, 160gb hd, 128m graphics......but the Dell mobo needs cutting up into tiny little pieces and melting, then moulding into the shape of Bin Ladens face then smashed repeatedly with a baseball bat.

I just don't know *shrugs*

The problem being it wont boot, blue screens, the only way to boot it in in either diagnostics or safe mode.
Neither of which are really any good to me.

I can reinstall xp over the os in there but I can't see that making any difference, 7 accounts, 5 of which are kids and this puter is so full of shit, including god knows how many crap dell progs which it wont let you uninstall.
It only recognises the cd drive when it wants to aswell, so it's pretty fucked, needs a format and fresh start.........but it wont even let me do that!!!!!

Are Dell trying to take over the world? cos their puters are gonna send everyone mad :frusty:

Jonno :cool:

[Jon L. Obscene]

i've had a usb keyboard for this and my last motherboard. it's worked fine in the bios for both, even without windows installed whatever difference that makes :unsure:

Hmmmm, yeah well it does on mine (msi board), but not on teh Dell, keyboard works in boot menu, but not when you dissconnect the hd.

Jonno :cool:

[Rick Phlegm]

You haven't gone to computer hell till you've tried to fix a Tiny PC :ph34r:

/shudders at the memory

[Jon L. Obscene]

Done that, at least you could get into bios and format the sucker :frusty:

I think I done it, tricked it :lol:

Jonno :cool:

[Busyman]

I have had 4 Dell computers and not one problem. :ermm:

[vidcc]

Dell made the financial choice to compete in the budget market and I suspect that anyone that has had a problem with a Dell computer (where it was the computers fault and not the operator) has one of the budget machines.

I have always gone on the theory that you get what you pay for when it comes to computers although that doesn't stand as strong today as it used to.

[Jon L. Obscene]

No, I think what it is, is that they use cheap bits, Dell own brand mobo? unbranded ram.
This puter was £1099 + bitys and pieces which took it to £1500.

Thats not cheap, I could build a super puter for that!!

But it does have a 19" tft :01:

Anyway I's done it. It seems the only disc which would boot (for some really bizzarre reason) was the Dell diagnostic cd, altho you put the disc in, choose the diag and it restarts. Once at the menu I ejected the diag disc and bunged in xp and booted from disc :D
Now fully reinstalled xp and drivers and it's running fine :)
Just gotta put progs and stuff in.

Jonno :cool:

[vidcc]

No, I think what it is, is that they use cheap bits, Dell own brand mobo? unbranded ram.
This puter was £1099 + bitys and pieces which took it to £1500.

Thats not cheap, I could build a super puter for that!!

But it does have a 19" tft :01:

Anyway I's done it. It seems the only disc which would boot (for some really bizzarre reason) was the Dell diagnostic cd, altho you put the disc in, choose the diag and it restarts. Once at the menu I ejected the diag disc and bunged in xp and booted from disc :D
Now fully reinstalled xp and drivers and it's running fine :)
Just gotta put progs and stuff in.

Jonno :cool:

Is it possible you got some kind of virus or tojan that caused it?

[DanB]

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[Jon L. Obscene]

Yeah thats what I think it was,6 kids trolling game and ringtone sites all day and shit, d/ling stuff that they don't understand, installing shit and stuff they don't know what it is or does.
Something in the startup which holted the process.
Proved simply by the fact that it started in safe and diagnostic mode.
But I went in startup and could'nt find anything, ran htj, cwshredder, pest patrol and avg and they found nothing. Regcleaner too.
Cleaned everything up and could'nt get it to boot normally, same screen every time.
Format was the easiest option.........or so I thought :lol:

Jonno :cool:

[vidcc]

Yeah thats what I think it was,6 kids trolling game and ringtone sites all day and shit, d/ling stuff that they don't understand, installing shit and stuff they don't know what it is or does.
Something in the startup which holted the process.
Proved simply by the fact that it started in safe and diagnostic mode.
But I went in startup and could'nt find anything, ran htj, cwshredder, pest patrol and avg and they found nothing. Regcleaner too.
Cleaned everything up and could'nt get it to boot normally, same screen every time.
Format was the easiest option.........or so I thought :lol:

Jonno :cool:

So you were badmouthing Dell for something that probably wasn't their fault :nono: :whistling ;)

[Jon L. Obscene]

No, I'm badmouthing Dell because the software they installed made it run slow and when uninstalled they would'nt go away, kinda like McAffe and Norton lol, I'm blaming dell because their piece of shit only has usb ports, and because Del button does'nt take you to bios......nor does any other button :frusty:
If the same happend to my puter I would have been able to sort it a hell of a lot faster :rolleyes:

Oh well, it's a Dell :lol:

Jonno :cool:

[vidcc]

you just need to accept that you are not as tech minded as you think http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/760/cry8ga.gif

:P

[Jon L. Obscene]

:dry: no

Jonno :cool:

[maebach]

you just need to accept that you are not as tech minded as you think http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/760/cry8ga.gif

:P

:lol: I don't know anyone with a Dell.

[Gemby!]

my dell is fine *wmahahaahahaha*

looks coool too :swish:

[Gripper]

Well when it go's wrong Gemby give jonno a call:)

[Snee]

No, I think what it is, is that they use cheap bits, Dell own brand mobo? unbranded ram.
This puter was £1099 + bitys and pieces which took it to £1500.

Thats not cheap, I could build a super puter for that!!
I daresay you couldn't.

The bits that make up something like Crays cost a whole lot more than that.

[peat moss]

You haven't gone to computer hell till you've tried to fix a Tiny PC :ph34r:

/shudders at the memory


Well grandma some big nuts you got ! Where did you find that gem ? :)


Your avatar I mean .

[fkdup74]

Theoretically I could take the drive out and boot it, which gives me the option to get to bios.........

ermmm......no......the BIOS is on teh mobo you drunk ass :P

unless, of course, you mean simply remove the drive and power up the PC w/o the drive,
in which case I'm the drunk ass and will gladly STFU :lol:

[GepperRankins]

you can get to the bios with a hard-drive in... or did you take that out of context?

[fkdup74]

you can get to the bios with a hard-drive in... or did you take that out of context?

I know that :huh:

no, it was merely a play on his words.....about taking the drive and booting it.....

hey look! it's a flying elephant! ------------->

*exits stage left

[GepperRankins]

Yeah thats what I think it was,6 kids trolling game and ringtone sites all day and shit, d/ling stuff that they don't understand, installing shit and stuff they don't know what it is or does.
Something in the startup which holted the process.
Proved simply by the fact that it started in safe and diagnostic mode.
But I went in startup and could'nt find anything, ran htj, cwshredder, pest patrol and avg and they found nothing. Regcleaner too.
Cleaned everything up and could'nt get it to boot normally, same screen every time.
Format was the easiest option.........or so I thought :lol:

Jonno :cool:
i'd say the owner tried browsing porn in MSIE is more likely than 6 kids getting ringtones :ph34r:

[Jon L. Obscene]

@Brain..........yes dude, stfu :P thats exactly what I meant, if it boots to hd first then removing the hd would give me other options, but it did'nt.

@Gepdudething.... No, well it's possible the 17y/o has been, but ringtone sites and game sites are notorious, put quicklinks and shit on your desktop, if you're gullable, I mean something will popup saying you need to install this or that to view this page and the kids just click ok. And I know the mother, she's not a porn sort of person nor is her b/f.
Does'nt really matter anyway, I just gonna put them all on parental locked internet :01:
If they wanna look at something for adults they can call me and I'll check it first :lol:

Jonno :cool:

[Chewie]

You haven't gone to computer hell till you've tried to fix a Tiny PC :ph34r:
/shudders at the memory
I got a Tiny here that I'm pimpin' for a workmate. Aside from the mini-tower case it's a pretty straight-forward job.

Dells & Compaqs, on the other hand, are almost always a nightmare.
Compaq used to have a separate hidden partition that held the BIOS so dropping in a larger system drive was bloody awkward.

A friend once asked me to put his computer innards into a new case he'd bought but was a bit put-out when I saw he had a Dell and told him 'no chance!'
He arrived at 8pm and left at 2:30am.
In the mean time I ripped out the Dell's mobo mounting plate to bolt it into the new case that he butchered the rear of so it'd fit.
£60 case and the fucker bastardised it to fit a Dell in there!

[Gemby!]

Well when it go's wrong Gemby give jonno a call:)

:01: it never will ......:shifty:

[Jon L. Obscene]

Oh it will :(

What did you say your ip address was? :shifty:

Jonno :cool:

[Gemby!]

Oh it will :(

What did you say your ip address was? :shifty:

Jonno :cool:

:shifty: * doesnt know*

[lynx]

You haven't gone to computer hell till you've tried to fix a Tiny PC :ph34r:
/shudders at the memory
I got a Tiny here that I'm pimpin' for a workmate. Aside from the mini-tower case it's a pretty straight-forward job.

Dells & Compaqs, on the other hand, are almost always a nightmare.
Compaq used to have a separate hidden partition that held the BIOS so dropping in a larger system drive was bloody awkward.

A friend once asked me to put his computer innards into a new case he'd bought but was a bit put-out when I saw he had a Dell and told him 'no chance!'
He arrived at 8pm and left at 2:30am.
In the mean time I ripped out the Dell's mobo mounting plate to bolt it into the new case that he butchered the rear of so it'd fit.
£60 case and the fucker bastardised it to fit a Dell in there!
Hey, at least with a Tiny, you can take it back to the shop and ask them to fix it.

Oops, maybe not. :rolleyes:

[Jon L. Obscene]

Oh it will :(

What did you say your ip address was? :shifty:

Jonno :cool:

:shifty: * doesnt know*

I bet you do :shifty:

Jonno :cool: