parts do they work? I'm going to add on more, what do u recommend?

[ooo]

intel Pentium 4 3.0E Prescott 800MHz FSB Socket 478 Processor Model
BX80546PG3000E - Retail

64 bit Support: No
Cooling Device: Heatsink and Fan
Hyper-Threading Support: Yes
L1 Cache: 12KB+16KB
L2 Cache: 1MB
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Operating Frequency: 3.0GHz
Process Type: 90 nm
Series: Pentium 4
Voltage: 1.25-1.525V

Model #: BX80546PG3000E
Item #: N82E16819116171

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ABIT Fatal1ty AA8XE ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: Fatal1ty AA8XE
Item #: N82E16813127189
Model
Brand ABIT
Model Fatal1ty AA8XE
Supported CPU
CPU Socket Type Socket T (LGA 775)
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4 EE HT/Pentium 4 Prescott/Celeron D
FSB 1066/800MHz
Supported CPU Technologies Hyper-Threading Technology
Chipsets
North Bridge Intel 925XE
South Bridge Intel ICH6R
Memory
Number of DDR2 Slots 4x 240pin DDR2
DDR2 Standard DDR2 533
Maximum Memory Supported 4GB
Dual Channel Supported Yes
Expansion Slots
AGP Slots None
PCI Express x16 1
PCI Express x1 2
PCI Slots 2
Storage Devices
PATA 1 x ATA 100 up to 2 Devices
SATA 4 x SATA 150
SATA RAID RAID 0/1/Matrix RAID
Onboard Video
Integrated Video No
Onboard Audio
Audio Chipset AC97 Codec
Audio Channels 8 Channels
Onboard LAN
LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
Second LAN Speed 10/100Mbps
Max LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps + 10/100Mbps
Rear Panel Ports
PS/2 2
USB 4x USB 2.0
IEEE 1394 1x 1394
Audio Ports 1 x BP-Audio (S/P DIF in/out, Line Out, Line-in, MIC-in,
Center/Subwoofer, Rear Surround, Surround Speaker)
Onboard USB
Onboard USB Connectors 4x USB 2.0 (2x headers)
Onboard 1394
Onboard 1394 Connectors 2x 1394a
Physical Spec
Form Factor ATX
Dimensions 12.0" x 9.6"
Features
Features ABIT Engineered
- ABIT uGuru™ Technology
- ABIT CPU Accelerator Technology
- ABIT ThermalGuard™ Technology
- ABIT TweakGuard™ Technology
- ABIT Dual OTES™ Technology
- ABIT OC Strips Technology
- ABIT MOSFET Thermal Solution
- ABIT OTES AeroFlow™ Technology
- ABIT OTES RAMFlow™ Technology
- ABIT AudioMAX Technology with Dolby(r) Digital Live Support
- ABIT On-board ultra-bright LEDs
- ABIT Bold Design color management system for easy installation
- ABIT Guru peripheral product link

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ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X600Pro 100-714131 All-In-Wonder Radeon
X600Pro 256MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

Core clock: 400MHz
D-SUB: 1
DirectX: DirectX 9
DVI: 1
Memory Clock: 600MHz
Memory Interface: 128-bit
OpenGL: OpenGL 1.5
TV Tuner: Yes
TV-Out: S-Video/Composite Out
VIVO: Yes

Model #: 100-714131
Item #: N82E16814102463
In Stock
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CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 533 (PC2
4200) System Memory - OEM
(limit 10 per customer)
Model #: VS1GB533D2
Item #: N82E16820145525

[imasoldier]

Well I suggest you get 64 bit support I posted something simular to this and everyone says go 64 bit because everything not 64 bit supported will go obsolete withing the next year or so and you won't be able to update that computer.

[lynx]

Actually, I said it won't be upgradable if you stick with AMD, that's not the same as obsolete.

If you go with Intel it may be upgradable, but it is already obsolete. :shifty:

[ooo]

im changing the parts to amd i'll post up after i get everything to see how u ppl think it is

[ooo]

CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)
PLEXTOR Black SATA DVD Burner Model PX-712SA/SW-BL - Retail
Model #: PX-712SA/SW-BL
**This item is warranted through the product manufacturer only.
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $89.99 $89.99

ATX Computer Cases
ASPIRE X-Pider ATXA2XPW-BL/420 Blue Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: ATXA2XPW-BL/420
Remove Save Move To Wish List $90.00 $90.00

Internal Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA II Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD1600JS
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $81.00 $81.00

Video Cards & Related Devices
ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X600Pro 100-714131 All-In-Wonder Radeon X600Pro 256MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: 100-714131
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.99 1 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Onsite Plan -- $39.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99 2 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Onsite Plan -- $49.99 3 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Onsite Plan -- $59.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $187.00 $187.00

Fans, Heatsinks (Case, CPU, Chipset)
MASSCOOL BLD-08025S1M 80mm Sleeve Blue LED Light Cooling Fan - Retail
Model #: BLD-08025S1M
Remove Save Move To Wish List $3.89 -$0.40 Sale $10.47

Memory - System
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model VS1GB400C3 - Retail
Model #: VS1GB400C3
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $97.00 $97.00


AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3500BPBOX - Retail
Model #: ADA3500BPBOX
**This item is warranted through the product manufacturer only.
Remove $393.49 -$20.00 Combo
$373.49


ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: A8N-SLI Deluxe
Model
Brand ASUS
Model A8N-SLI Deluxe
Supported CPU
CPU Socket Type Socket 939
CPU Type Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64
FSB 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s)
Chipsets
North Bridge NVIDIA nForce4 SLI
Memory
Number of DDR Slots 4x 184pin DDR
DDR Standard DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Maximum Memory Supported 4GB
Dual Channel Supported Yes
ECC Supported Yes
Expansion Slots
AGP Slots None
PCI Express x16 2 x PCI Express X 16 (*SLI mode : x8 , x8 *Default Single VGA mode : x16, x1)
PCI Express x1 2
PCI Slots 3
Storage Devices
PATA 2 x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
PATA RAID NV RAID 0/1/0+1 JBOD
SATA 4 x SATA II
SATA RAID NV RAID 0/1/0+1 JBOD
Additional SATA 4 x SATA 150
Additional SATA RAID RAID 0/1/0+1/5
Additional RAID Controller Sil 3114
Onboard Video
Integrated Video No
Onboard Audio
Audio Chipset Realtek ALC850
Audio Channels 8 Channels
Onboard LAN
LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
Second LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
Max LAN Speed Dual 10/100/1000Mbps
Rear Panel Ports
PS/2 2
LPT 1
USB 4x USB 2.0
IEEE 1394 1x 1394
S/PDIF Out 1x Coaxial
S/PDIF In 1x Optical
Audio Ports 6 jacks
Onboard USB
Onboard USB Connectors 6x USB 2.0 (3x headers)
Onboard 1394
Onboard 1394 Connectors 1x 1394a
Physical Spec
Form Factor ATX
Dimensions 12.0" x 9.6"
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Logitech Cordless Desktop Optical 967320-0403 Black PS/2 RF Wireless Standard Keyboard Mouse Included - OEM
Model #: 967320-0403
Remove $43.95 -$12.00 Combo
-$12.00 Instant $19.95
Logitech S-100 BLK 5 Watts RMS 2.0 Speaker - OEM
Model #: 970144-0403
Subtotal: $948.90
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hows all this?

[Virtualbody1234]

... Memory - System
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model VS1GB400C3 - Retail
Model #: VS1GB400C3
...
You would be better getting 2x512MB instead if 1X1GB. That way it will run in "Dual Channel" mode.

[ooo]

oo okai, anything else? all the parts would work right?

CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail
Model #: VS1GBKIT400

[Virtualbody1234]

Get a NEC burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152047

I'll look over your list in more detail when I have more time...

[ooo]

its not ide its serial ata =/

[Virtualbody1234]

its not ide its serial ata =/
I know. I still recommend it.

[ooo]

so ide can still work? What are the cables it comes with, havent built a computer in 2-3 years, I'm building this for a friend

[ooo]

how about the hard drive would a ide one be better? I'm use to setting up ide so it'd be better, i think my friends looking for a 160gbs western or segate

[clocker]

how about the hard drive would a ide one be better?

No, it would not.
The SATA Plextor is nice cause you can eliminate the bulk of the IDE cable, but it's performance is really not all that spectacular.

But you DO want a SATA HDD...my preference is for Seagates.

VB handcarves his drives from whalebone during the brutal Canadian winters (i.e. 11.5 months of the year).

[ooo]

how do u set up an sata, i have no clue how to set one up, is it the same as the ide?

hows this?
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3160827AS 160GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3160827AS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148034

[lynx]

That drive is fine.

For sata installation you simply put in the supplied floppy disk at install time if necessary (press F6 I think).

The ATI graphics card is never going to be SLI capable, so you are just wasting money getting an SLI motherboard. Look for the equivalent without SLI and save some money.

On the other hand, the PSU in that case probably only has a 20 pin mobo connector, you need a 24 pin connector for that mobo, so spend the money you just saved on the SLI to get a much better PSU. You may have difficulty finding one integrated into the case so you probably need to look for separate units.

[ooo]

so wait I can keep the ati graphics card look for another mobo? and then get a better (edit) oo power supply unit? Can you give stuff you recommend, I havent picked parts in so long. I prefer to work w/ ides instead cause i have no clue how to set up an ata, like the cable connections, this mobo seems so complicated, im reading the manual to try figuring stuff out

will ide fade out in the future like is ata suppose to replace it or something? Whats the whole deal w/ the ide and ata?

hows this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123236
for motherboard as a switch

[lynx]

IDE = P(arallel)ATA.
New = S(erial)ATA.

Not much difference except that the cabling is easier and thinner. IDE will be around for a while, but there's no real problem with SATA.

The only problem with SATA is that it is too new for the drivers to be included with XP, so you need to use the driver diskette (provided with the mobo) when installing XP. Not a problem, just press F6 when the prompt comes up, then insert the diskette and off it goes. Always assuming you've included a floppy drive.

But stick with the NEC DVD burner, the Plextor SATA drive is expensive for no apparent benefit.

As for mobo, the simple answer is to go for the A8N rather than the A8N-SLI.
Better still, look at this thread posted by imasoldier. It has some recommendations for both mobo and psu.
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/t99713.html

Anyway, well past time for bed, I'll have another look tomorrow.

[ooo]

So update on my friends comp, wow parts have really changed since i last made a computer, mostly its all ATA, I'd like to try it out but I'm just afraid I won't be able to set it up, plus he doesn't want to get a floppy drive. I might want to try out an SATA but if its the hard drive it will boot without a hard drive first and then you have to install the driver for it in bios or just press F6 in the boot screen? About the cables, i can't find any pictures on an SATA hard drive like the connectors, does it only have one cable connector? Do I have to config jumpers and where do I plug in the power supply.

CHANGES
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MOBO
CASE
PSU

hows the video card is it good?

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CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)
NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM
Model #: ND-3540A Black
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $9.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $45.99 $45.99

ATX Computer Cases
Thermaltake Xaser V Damier V5000D Blue Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: V5000D
Remove Save Move To Wish List $110.00 $110.00

Internal Hard Drives

Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3160827AS 160GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3160827AS

AMD-compatible Motherboards
EPoX EP-9NPA+Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: EP-9NPA+Ultra
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $108.00 $108.00

Video Cards & Related Devices
ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X600Pro 100-714131 All-In-Wonder Radeon X600Pro 256MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: 100-714131
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.99 1 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Onsite Plan -- $39.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99 2 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Onsite Plan -- $49.99 3 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Onsite Plan -- $59.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $176.00 $176.00

Power Supplies
Rosewill RP500 ATX 500W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: RP500
**This item may only be returned for a replacement of the same make/model.
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $55.99 $55.99

Memory - System
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail
Model #: VS1GBKIT400
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $86.99 $86.99

Processors
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3500BPBOX - Retail
Model #: ADA3500BPBOX
**This item is warranted through the product manufacturer only.
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $59.99
Remove Save Move To Wish List $226.99 $226.99

Combo
Logitech Cordless Desktop Optical 967320-0403 Black PS/2 RF Wireless Standard Keyboard Mouse Included - OEM
Model #: 967320-0403
Remove $43.95 -$12.00 Combo
-$12.00 Instant $19.95
Logitech S-100 BLK 5 Watts RMS 2.0 Speaker - OEM
Model #: 970144-0403
Subtotal: $904.91

will these parts do good for other mobos?
MSI K8N Neo4/SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: K8N Neo4/SLI
Item #: N82E16813130492
Regular Price: $123.00
Combo Price: $103.00

ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: A8N-SLI Deluxe
Item #: N82E16813131517
Regular Price: $164.00
Combo Price: $144.00

BIOSTAR N4SLI-A9 Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: N4SLI-A9
Item #: N82E16813138253
Regular Price: $109.99
Combo Price: $79.99

[clocker]

The only problem with SATA is that it is too new for the drivers to be included with XP, so you need to use the driver diskette (provided with the mobo) when installing XP. Not a problem, just press F6 when the prompt comes up, then insert the diskette and off it goes. Always assuming you've included a floppy drive.
AHA! Gotcha.

This is not true anymore.
Nforce4 boards present the SATA drives to Windows as an IDE drive...no driver/ floppy/F6 is required.

You only need to F6 a driver in if you are RAIDing.

[ooo]

Thats cool so I'll just get the SATA hd instead of the ide

Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3160827AS 160GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3160827AS

instead n no floppies necessary right?

[clocker]

No floppies.

The women and children are safe.

Edit:
Your choice of PSU is still debatable.
Try this at the very least (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103478) .

[lynx]

I wasn't aware that the Nforce4 chips didn't need extra drivers, thanks for the update on that.

About the PSU, I was going to suggest this one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103924#DetailSpecs), better quality IMO and cheaper after the Mail-in rebate.

Edit:
For the other mobo's, you were looking at SLI boards again.
Non-SLI equivalents are
MSI K8N Neo4-f (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130491) $84.00
ASUS A8N-E (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131530) $120.00
BIOSTAR NF4UL-A9 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138249) $78.00

[ooo]

psu for $100 is crazy, i think he wnats something cheap n with light

[lynx]

Good idea, spend nearly $1000 on various parts, then throw it all away when the cheap psu fails. Are you on commission, by any chance?

[ooo]

lol ask my friend, im getting it for him can u give me an okay he needs to order it by sunday so i can hlep him set it up the following sunday

so the newest list i just updated hows the mobo with that?

[ReVLer]

Hey everybody, im the friend soul is building the computer for, thanx a lot for all ur help. Im gonna change the psu, if u guys think everything else is okay tho, just gimme the okay so i can order, again, thanx bunches.

[ReVLer]

CD/DVD Burners
NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM
Model #: ND-3540A Black

ATX Computer Case
Thermaltake Xaser V Damier V5000D Blue Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: V5000D

Internal Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3160827AS 160GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3160827AS

AMD-compatible Motherboards
EPoX EP-9NPA+Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: EP-9NPA+Ultra

Video Cards & Related Devices
ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X600Pro 100-714131 All-In-Wonder Radeon X600Pro 256MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: 100-714131

Power Supplies
Antec NeoPower ATX 480W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: NeoPower

Memory - System
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400
Model #: VS1GBKIT400

Processors
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3500BPBOX - Retail
Model #: ADA3500BPBOX

KeyBoard and Mouse
Logitech Cordless Desktop Optical 967320-0403 Black PS/2 RF Wireless Standard Keyboard Mouse Included - OEM
Model #: 967320-0403
Logitech S-100 BLK 5 Watts RMS 2.0 Speaker - OEM
Model #: 970144-0403

[ReVLer]

Thanx to all ur help, thats the new list, if u think everything is fine, please lemme noe so i can order the parts.

[Virtualbody1234]

Are you really going to use all the fuctionality of the All-In-Wonder? If not you could save a bunch getting a regular card or one with more performance. Depends on what you want to do with it.

I would also choose the MSI K8N Neo4-f (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130491) over the Epox. But that's just personal choice.

[clocker]

I dislike your choice of case (but realize that it's down to personal taste)...for half the money you can get a far superior Centurion. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119068)
Patriot RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220006) is the king of the price/performance contest.
I like the Gigabyte (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128283) board for features and stability and the DFI LanParty (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136151) for the outrageous performance and tweakability.

Not that you've asked, but this heatsink (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835185115) is the bee's knees...effective and silent.

Have fun building.
We'll see you next week.

[ooo]

yea i liked the gigabyte better too but i was going for the more reviews one, we'll I changed the board to teh gigabyte cause i like the dual bios, lets see what he wants n then i'll tell him to order it today

[ReVLer]

New List(Again, lol)

CD/DVD Burners
NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM
Model #: ND-3540A Black

ATX Computer Cases
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: CAC-T05-UW

Internal Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA NCQ ST3160827AS 160GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3160827AS

AMD-compatible Motherboards
GIGABYTE GA-K8N Ultra-9 Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard
Model #: GA-K8N Ultra-9

Video Cards & Related Devices
ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X600Pro 100-714131 All-In-Wonder Radeon X600Pro 256MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: 100-714131

Power Supplies
Antec NeoPower ATX 480W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: NeoPower

Memory - System
Patriot 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model PDC1G3200LLK - Retail
Model #: PDC1G3200LLK

Processors
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3500BPBOXModel #: ADA3500BPBOX

Keyboard and Mouse
Logitech Cordless Desktop Optical 967320-0403 Black PS/2 RF Wireless Standard Keyboard Mouse Included - OEM
Model #: 967320-0403
Logitech S-100 BLK 5 Watts RMS 2.0 Speaker - OEM

thanx for all the help, i luv u guys

[ReVLer]

Virtual, what video card do u reccomend if im not gonna be playing to many games, im more of a programmer

[ooo]

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

y u changing ur case its by preference lol u got money anyways lol

[Virtualbody1234]

Virtual, what video card do u reccomend if im not gonna be playing to many games, im more of a programmer
I was just pointing out that the All-In-Wonder card has a lot of features that most users don't need. You could save some cash by getting a more basic card.

Or even the same X600Pro but not All-In-Wonder. For example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102568


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A9549&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&description=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&SubCategory=48&Submit=Property

[ooo]

I think he'll use some of hte features of hte all in wonder, he has cable television so he can hook up his television onto the tv tuner. I myself have an ati all in wonder 9000 pro. I used most of its features, right now I hooked my television onto it, i have a ps2 hooked on and I have a digital camera hooked on it as well. I would like to use my tv as a monitor but it wont work, I have a really old television, the cables connect and all but it doesnt display, but most of the features are used. He wanted that video card but we'll see what he wants.

[ReVLer]

It all got pretty expensive after i got the crazy psu, lol, so i decided to downgrade the case

[ooo]

So he ended up keeping everything except the case --> he changed to this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144038

[clocker]

That case is $40 more than the Centurion AND it comes with a (useless) PSU.
The logic here escapes me.