Printable View
Does anyone else find this practice repugnant? Someone reproduces and distributes someone else's product against their (and the laws) explicit wishes, then feels entitled to turn around and demand no one else on the site do the same. This is the definition of hypocrisy, not to mention a slap in the face of the entire idea behind filesharing.
And to everyone whose response will be "So what, get over it.", your cognitive surrender has been noted and filed.
yeah.... dont steal my stolen shit....
stupid
In most cases, I find it to be very hypocritical and unfair, particularly on the 0-days with the scene torrents. It doesn't even make sense as to why it should be exclusive.. apparently the trackers feel threatened by the other 0-days. :unsure:
However, on a tracker like Pedro's where it is required that the user rips their own CDs/vinyl properly, and include extras such scanned in album sleeves, and that sort of thing that takes a lot of time/effort, I do think it's fair that they have rules for other people not to upload it somewhere else and take credit - or at least get permission from the person who did all the hard work. I do believe all the files should be spread where ever possible to reach many users across numerous trackers, but I think that it would be nice if people could at least have the decency to ask to upload the files elsewhere.
That's pretty much my only exception though.
I don't find it repugnant, but I do laugh when an uploader or a site gets seriously upset and starts to throw their teddies out of the pram for doing what you suggest.
Just gotta love double standards donchya? :D
I don't find it repugnant, but I do laugh when an uploader or a site gets seriously upset and starts to throw their teddies out of the pram for doing what you suggest.
Just gotta love double standards donchya? :D
this is what you get for being a member in a private tracker...Quote:
Originally Posted by orfik
if you do not like this elitist and PRIVATE attidute just use only thepiratebay... you will have no problems there... and nobody will blame you if you will reupload their torrents on other places!!!
different sites, different rules... if you do not like the rules.. just change site... there are plenty of them :w00t:
because a tracker is better then another based on the uploads he have... if most of the uploads just comes directly from another site (like what happens on TL?... ) you are just running a normal tracker that have 0 exclusive things ... all the others can survive without you... but you cannot survive without the others trackers supplies....Quote:
Originally Posted by Grind$oFine
do you really think it takes more time to do a rip for pedro then in having REAL SCENE AXX as some uploaders have?? not to mention all the risks (a part the legal things... they risk in being scenebanned and the like...)Quote:
However, on a tracker like Pedro's where it is required that the user rips their own CDs/vinyl properly, and include extras such scanned in album sleeves, and that sort of thing that takes a lot of time/effort, I do think it's fair that they have rules for other people not to upload it somewhere else and take credit - or at least get permission from the person who did all the hard work. I do believe all the files should be spread where ever possible to reach many users across numerous trackers, but I think that it would be nice if people could at least have the decency to ask to upload the files elsewhere.
0-day stuff are everywhere...and u can "steal" 'em from one tracker and upload it to another without being noticed. However, overdoing it is lame. I have noticed some folks upload 0-days stuff in tracker A but their source of upload is tracker B. In other word, they upload "stolen" stuff from tracker B to tracker A. By doing so they might be enriching content of tracker A but at the meantime they are also making tracker A dependent on tracker B. Moreover, if somehow someone notices "stolen" stuff, it gives bad rep to tracker A as a whole. So, i think it's better not to over steal from another tracker, instead steal from scene...get axx ;) (although i think scene doesn't like stuff being "stolen" :rolleyes:)
BTW, instead of trying to justify it as "is it right?" or "is it wrong?" i think we should be looking from tracker's perspective of what is allowed and what is not allowed. Some tracker, don't prefer their stuff to be "stolen", then don't do it, it's that simple. Some tracker prefer their 0-day up not to be uploaded elsewhere for next 24 hrs, don't do that either. If someone HAS to steal and upload it somewhere, play with the rules, there are trackers which actually allow it :whistling
And, pack stealing is pretty lame (unless tracker rule and/or uploader allows it). Its disrespect to the tracker + the uploader. Moreover, stealing it in site that give "exclusive" stuff is the lamest. There are tracker with group buy torrents (theplace, bitspyder, bitseduce etc), tracker where uploader put hell of effort per torrent (like pedros and E)....those stuff shouldn't be uploaded elsewhere!
/uploads squirr3l to the pirate bay. :eyebrows:
well everyone knows what i think of this "rule".
fucking stupid and we have even got a rule that says its ok to do it.
totally fucking hypocritical if you ask me.
Sory i had just woke up and read this post, but my point still stands, imo we are private because we do not like hit and runners, cheaters etc, not because the uploads are anyway exclusive.
^^and we want a community.
i agree with the exclusivity only when it comes to packs and such. it's the packs and requests that give each tracker it's unique content, and i agree that if these are put on that tracker, often for that specific purpose, just leave them on that tracker. 0-day rips, though, by definition, do not start on that site, thus any type of reaction to that is outrageous.
I agree with what most guys have already said! Blaming someone for stealing typical 0-day stuff is ridiculous! But I have to agree that packs and user-upload based trackers, like pedro's and what and waffles (ok, the biggest part of their uploads) have unique content that no one should steal and upload elsewhere!