What is it with 'exclusive' torrents?

This has been bugging the fuck out of me for a long ass time.

What is it with torrent sites and their "exclusive" packs or rips or whatever? People steal shit and then don't want other people to share it with others... I see rips and packs and in the description it will say "Exclusive to blah blah, please do not upload other places" or sites like f** that say their packs shouldn't be uploaded anywhere else, like they created the shit.

Now, I understand that it takes work to say encode a movie or create a pack, but I thought the whole idea was to share with everyone. I find it arrogant and self-serving in a way to say that an encode or pack is 'yours' and you should not upload it anywhere else.

How is it not hypocritical to steal someone elses work and then not want someone to 'steal' yours? Its counterproductive and assinine.

Explain please.

exclusive scene packs are fkin retarded but encodes are some1s own work

as if anyone gets his stuff because of leeches like you and their morality bs, when in reality you're just pissed you don't get -everything- for free.
no, i don't think you understand it takes work.

You talk like someone makes you join sites with exclusive content or packs. Don't download it and be happy.

The same problem is with Scene 1337$, they have the same shitty attitude, with out us , the file sharers, the scene would never exist
I don't see the point in doing a release and encoding or reversing and at the end they'll be uploaded to some topsite with IRC channels echoing that so others get it and upload it to other sites, and then the original thieves ask for shit not to be stolen again.
If you steal and don't respect copyright, how the *uck you ask other people to do so?
I'm sure that The Scene look at P2P communities as "Scene Whores", but there are P2P people who make their own releases and hundreds who release "Indi"s everyday

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Originally Posted by nextom

as if anyone gets his stuff because of leeches like you and their morality bs, when in reality you're just pissed you don't get -everything- for free.
no, i don't think you understand it takes work.

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Originally Posted by pretend

You talk like someone makes you join sites with exclusive content or packs. Don't download it and be happy.

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You don't seem to understand what puckface is saying.It's just the whole concept of bt is about sharing and that concept some people have seem to lost track of.

ANd to answer the question imo site defined exclusives are maintained for basically the same reason that there are platform exclusive games . As for indivuals marking their uploads as exclusive they are looking to up their own profile at whichever you are talking about.
Again this is just my opinion and by no means necessarily fact.

i fail to see the big difference between conception of exclusive torrents and conception of private trackers in general. both are oriented to organise better conditions of sharing by placing the whole process in limited and controllable atmosphere, both have the goals to create something like black holes, places that will automatically attract uploads, seeding and all related stuff

This is kinda not really what you're talking about but if you're talking about say music home rips that you don't want shared anywhere else (it's common at P's and E***o) - it's for security, mainly. I personally hate exclusive sharing myself, and my true passion lies in public and open sharing, but you've got to respect other people's wishes if you want to partake in the same community where they're releasing that exclusive content. I'd rather take part in a community and benefit from what I can get out of it and follow the rules and (reluctantly) resist my urges to share it with others outside the allowed circle, than to A. break the rules and face the constant risk of getting caught and then no longer benefiting from the content or B. not taking part in the first place due to my preference for open sharing - and missing out all along.

For me this applies to the Scene, too - in principle. They're just an exclusive community (like any other file sharing community or network) which just so happens to release extremely desirable material yet don't condone sharing of that material outside that community - for security.

And I also know of physical private music trading circles, ones with exclusive content shared between a small group of elite/lucky fellows within a certain area of interest (there used to be a lot more of them before p2p started to proliferate) and they have the exact same principle - they don't want to draw the attention of authorities and be completely underground.

Another situation where you can see wishes of exclusivity (and this one is resonable imo, but still tough to accept since I love the "sharing for all" concept) - is that there's a special crack or hacked version/workaround of a program and if the knowledge of that crack were too public, the content creators would then release an update to counter that hack or workaround. This is not uncommon in game/console cracks and some software cracks that I have seen. A lot of stuff even today exists that the public is completely oblivious to.

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Originally Posted by pretend

You talk like someone makes you join sites with exclusive content or packs. Don't download it and be happy.

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I totally disagree with the whole 'exclusivity' thing. BT is all about sharing what you have... you make reference to the OP not being forced to join sites where 'exclusive' packs etc are and it being his choice... What about the encoders?

If they wanna encode things and put them 'out there' in BT world... why should the rules of BT change to suit the encoder? If they don't want their work spread, then either a) Don't encode, or b) Don't release it into an environment created to encourage sharing.

I agree with the OP about it being laughable for people to pirate releases from all the big named studios, and then have the cheek to 'claim them' as their own, and to decide who can and can't download it i.e. only if you are a member of such and such a site... it's a complete nonsense :lol:

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Originally Posted by kukushka

i fail to see the big difference between conception of exclusive torrents and conception of private trackers in general. both are oriented to organize better conditions of sharing by placing the whole process in limited and controllable atmosphere, both have the goals to create something like black holes, places that will automatically attract uploads, seeding and all related stuff

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I'm sorry but I don't see what limiting availability has to do with sharing.If you want to make a case for security fine,.If you wish to say that it forces certain individuals not inclined to otherwise do it fine but as soon as you started to use words like limited and controlled in regards to sharing you lost me.

Same argument regarding controlling content of forums .To limit is to deny the whole point.