Trump calls it quits

I knew it was a long shot with Trump, but he was the only one I was actually enthused about voting for. He was the only one who would even dare mention the word TARIFF and the only one who wanted to stand up against China.

With him out of the way, I'm throwing all my support to Ron Paul. He's the only current candidate I can stomach. If he doesn't win the primay, and at this point it looks like a long shot, I may end up not even voting at all in 2012.

At this point, it looks almost certain that Obama will get in again for another 4 years. The economy is rebounding. The birther issue has been squashed.

I still wonder what he will do about the 14 trillion dollars of debt. Oh wait! I know! Why not raise taxes! That's what lies ahead. Massive tax increases.

Trump is like a clown; if he changes his mind and decides to run for President, he won't get elected. I really hope that Obama will get re-elected.

Trump is an attention whore who never had any intention of running. He was feeling ignored so decided to run a publicity stunt.

There is a very appropriate definition of the word "Trump" in the urban dictionary

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1. Trump


Northern to midlands slang for a fart, expelling of wind from the anus.

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Originally Posted by 999969999

I knew it was a long shot with Trump, but he was the only one I was actually enthused about voting for. He was the only one who would even dare mention the word TARIFF and the only one who wanted to stand up against China.
Trump is a bloviating idiot...possibly the best representative of the Republicans currently around.


With him out of the way, I'm throwing all my support to Ron Paul. He's the only current candidate I can stomach. If he doesn't win the primay, and at this point it looks like a long shot, I may end up not even voting at all in 2012.
Good.
Don't vote.

At this point, it looks almost certain that Obama will get in again for another 4 years. The economy is rebounding. The birther issue has been squashed.

I still wonder what he will do about the 14 trillion dollars of debt. Oh wait! I know! Why not raise taxes! That's what lies ahead. Massive tax increases.

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You wouldn't know a "massive tax increase" if it bit you in the ass.
We currently pay the lowest effective tax rate since Eisenhower was President.

Oh, BTW, speaking of taxes...
9, how many new hires at your family business since last years extension of the Bush tax cuts?
IIRC, you said the only thing stopping businesses from hiring was "uncertainty" about onerous taxation, so with that fear taken care of, how much have you grown the job market?

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Originally Posted by 999969999

I knew it was a long shot with Trump, but he was the only one I was actually enthused about voting for.

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I bet you water your plants with Brawndo
Why? Because it's got what plants crave, it's got electrolytes.

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Originally Posted by clocker

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Originally Posted by 999969999

I knew it was a long shot with Trump, but he was the only one I was actually enthused about voting for. He was the only one who would even dare mention the word TARIFF and the only one who wanted to stand up against China.
Trump is a bloviating idiot...possibly the best representative of the Republicans currently around.


With him out of the way, I'm throwing all my support to Ron Paul. He's the only current candidate I can stomach. If he doesn't win the primay, and at this point it looks like a long shot, I may end up not even voting at all in 2012.
Good.
Don't vote.

At this point, it looks almost certain that Obama will get in again for another 4 years. The economy is rebounding. The birther issue has been squashed.

I still wonder what he will do about the 14 trillion dollars of debt. Oh wait! I know! Why not raise taxes! That's what lies ahead. Massive tax increases.

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You wouldn't know a "massive tax increase" if it bit you in the ass.
We currently pay the lowest effective tax rate since Eisenhower was President.

Oh, BTW, speaking of taxes...
9, how many new hires at your family business since last years extension of the Bush tax cuts?
IIRC, you said the only thing stopping businesses from hiring was "uncertainty" about onerous taxation, so with that fear taken care of, how much have you grown the job market?

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Yeah, you would know, I guess.


I seriously wonder why anyone would want to pay more in taxes. Why not cut spending rather than pay more in taxes?


Actually, yes we have hired one extra person (one of my cousins). I'll admit it has more to do with the fact that the economy (and hence, demand) has definitely picked up for us, than anything else. And there will be a replacement hired for me, when I leave this summer.

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Originally Posted by 999969999

I seriously wonder why anyone would want to pay more in taxes.

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Maybe because a marginal increase in taxes would mean that the roads don't destroy my car, that firefighters/police and teachers are available, that the library remains open and the populace is literate enough to read...the list goes on.

Let's take as an example one of the "socialist" countries you pretend to abhor- say, Finland.
I'd pay 51% of income in taxes (which far exceeds any tax bracket in the US).
In exchange, I'd get free education through college/graduate degrees, free health care, a national internet service of 100MB/s and a social safety net (food/medical/legal subsidies)
unknown in America.
I cannot afford a fraction of those services in America.

My theoretically more favorable tax rate turns out to a really bad deal when services rendered are compared.
Americans pay more to get less than any industrialized nation on Earth which is the direct result of corporatizing our country.
Delivering less while charging more is the basic tenet of business and this "Underpants= Profit!" mentality is the new cornerstone of the right wing agenda.

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Originally Posted by clocker

Delivering less while charging more is the basic tenet of business and this "Underpants= Profit!" mentality is the new cornerstone of the right wing agenda.

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To be fair, though it is a cornerstone for the conservative agenda, plenty of liberals have their hands in corporate pockets. Most of the bigger offices involve mingling between corporations and politicians, it's a big stakes game. To not be in bed with them makes it very very difficult to win any major election. So what I'm trying to say is that in a country where commercials are so effective, it's baffling, the country is frakked.

Do anti communists/socialists take out insurance on their property? Are they happy to accept other insurance payers collectively paying for their loss? If the private insurance firms did not make vast profits then our insurance premiums would cost less. I may just have the wrong mindset, in my dotage, to fathom this contradiction out.:whistling

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Originally Posted by bigboab

Do anti communists/socialists take out insurance on their property? Are they happy to accept other insurance payers collectively paying for their loss? If the private insurance firms did not make vast profits then our insurance premiums would cost less. I may just have the wrong mindset, in my dotage, to fathom this contradiction out.:whistling

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Hah.

I am a contradiction-fathomer from way back.

The trick is to do it 24/7, and not just when you feel like it, or must, due to circumstances.

If you can't do that, try it during your afternoon nap, Bob - warn Missus Bob that you will likely snore a bit more loudly as a consequence.