Whats going on frank. My names not frank its jack bower.
Oh shit i cant wait for the next season. !!!!! :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
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Whats going on frank. My names not frank its jack bower.
Oh shit i cant wait for the next season. !!!!! :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
shows gay.
you dont know whats good ziggy. :no2:
Lost,prison brake,robot chicken,the simpsons,earl,everybody hates chris.
Kiefer Sutherland is the worst actor actor ever.
How many days in a row is he gonna save the world?
I agree. Ghey.
Cant say iv ever watched an episode b4 lol. so yeh Ghey...
is it online somewhere?
what the fuck
24 > your life
Jack Bauer shouldn't be compared to Jesus, but he died for his country twice, and lived to tell about it.
24 > other stuff.
for it is written.
What is an "actor actor"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
Edit: I agree with the sensible people here that 24 is indeed great.
Don't like the show eaither
season 1: wow....:w00t:
season 2: Yawn......:dry:
season 3: ................:frusty:
I llike the show. :snooty:
Just hate Jack in it, why does he always have to be the one to save the world.
From the words of the Uk'ans:Quote:
Originally Posted by rossco
'Cause he's American.
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Last couple times I saw it he helped save America, not the world.:pinch:
He saves the world in season 4, silly.:ermm:
The worst kind. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
It has it's share of republican messages, but for entertainment it's okay.
To this date, season two were best.
What Republican messages?:huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS
24 is great...nuff said
Instead of CNN they show Fox news during those news feeds. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
The word I should have used is 'undertones'. It's more a feeling than something concrete, so feel free to brush this off as bullshit on my part. ;)
Edit: The values, worldview, and the show's perception of America's rightful position in the world is what give rise to those feelings on my part. Enough said.
That's BULLSHIT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS
:mellow:
That's BULLSHIT!!!
:mellow:[/QUOTE]
See edit. Frankly, I don't care. ;)
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS
Yup that's what I meant to type but i was tired:ermm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
He doesn't save the world in season 4 tho, unless something happens after the 12th episode that invovlves the whole world :unsure: (dont tell me).
He dies and becomes Bruce Banner and roams the highways of amerikey helping those less fortunate...cue music
That beats him crying like a sissy girl at the end of the third series...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gripper
That's just marketing bro, not Republican "overtones". :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS
You can bet Fox pays for that.
I've only seen series one so far - series 2 in the post from Dave. S01 rawked.
Jack cried like a sissy girl about three times in one episode, maybe the 22hr ep - plus he didn't kick nearly enough arse. I hope this important issue gets addressed in the later series :smilie4:
See edit. Frankly, I don't care. ;)[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS
Well I ain't Republican and don't see Republican values in the show.Quote:
Edit: The values, worldview, and the show's perception of America's rightful position in the world is what give rise to those feelings on my part. Enough said.
As far America fighting terrorism or whateverthehell well....it's an American show based in America...involving counterterrorism ffs. From what I see, some folks think any show (or movie) that's popular and has America kicking any ass or playing hero gives rise to certain "feelings".
Pure entertainment for me. :happy: To each his own.
Exactly. Some people like to/can only watch a show or film on just one level (as pure entertainment) without thinking about what messages the writers are trying to convey, how successful they are at this, what hidden agendas there maybe, how they manipulate the viewers (both for the shows purpose and for any political message they may want to bring across).Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
I say watch the show just for entertainment unless you intend for example to be a scriptwriter or something and need to examine and learn elements of the craft.
Personally I can't help but tear any show I watch down to its component pieces, examing its "message", plot and character development, use of imagery and symbolism, etc. That's just the English student in me though...:ermm:
yeah Jacks american and saving the world, but he's cool as fuck so it evens out :dabs:
so even, one might refer to it as "steven" :mellow:
I prefer to pretend he is a kindly Canadian lending a helping hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Mulder
Edit: KS was born in England:01:
The first point about fox were meant as a joke, sort of. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
It does indicate which side of the fence the producers prefer though. [I doubt it's paid marketing, with the show airing on fox. If it is, it coincides well with their need for a news source other than CNN.]
@Busyman. It's the way I see it, and may not be purely republican. Though more prevalent amongst them for sure, IMO.
In any case, it's propganda - I mean - entertainment. To each their own indeed.
Edit: Cheese said it well.
Oh I do something similar but I look at the story elements, music, sound effects, and acting quality so the people watching can be entertained...if I wanted to convey a political message, that can be thrown in as long as well placed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
Imagery, symbolism, and everything else is great but the show still may suck.
24 is pure visceral action done right...symbolism can suck ass.
It's a Fox TV show and they used Fox News. Picture that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS
I don't understand why they didn't use a competitor owned by another company.
It must be the Christian right spewing their views in an action series.
That's why 24 was a good show because it caters to the simple-minded with lots of gunfights, car chases, handsome actors and cool music whilst providing strong character development, plot development and other elements of the storytelling craft to the more demanding audience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
I don't know about all that shit. Shows with gunfights, car chases, cool music, blahblahblah, are a dime-a-dozen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
Character development and blahblah is shit if it's boring.
24 is an excellent mix.
The main draw to 24 is cliffhangers. A good cliffhanger has to be developed properly and create lots of tension. 24 does it beautifully.:D
Jack Bauer is not the deepest character in the world. He gets the job done even by skirting rules. I did like how he was essentially addicted to drugs in one season though.
Many folk get the gist of show without psychoanalyzing it. Hell even folks who like the show think many times it is far-fetcched but that doesn't stop them from liking it...well not everyone actually.:unsure:
I remember a friend of mine who made good music but mine was like better.
He took music theory. I did not.
Plot and character development is the skeleton but it in itself does not entertain. It's just the starting point.
So I should have a show with the right mix of character/plot development, violence, cool music and loads of cliffhangers. Maybe a cliff-hanger at every ad-break?
Shame Prison Break beat me to it with its 56 cliffhangers an episode but don't even get me started on that show.
Mmm, so a lot of the popularity of the show (24) has to do with the cheap trick of the cliffhanger. Much like a soap-opera uses. Interesting.
I guess Lost uses a variation of this with its "onion layer mystery" thing it has going on. "Tune in next week when we reveal the answer to your questions with more questions".
The more I think about it the more I realise television sucks.
noot sky sports, football and aerobics oz style:naughty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
And Soccer AM ftw.:01:Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper Bo
aerobics oz style>soccer AM:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
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