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Should FST Ban Account Trading ?
Regarding to THIS , THIS Threads , i have Just told to Creat this poll to see what is your opinions , So please have a look at the threads above and don't vote till you read them all
we have only 2 options : Yes or No
please note : this is serious step and this poll may Change this rule
thanks for reading
Cheers
-V
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Re: Should FST Ban Account Trading ?
I voted yes because..., well look at the other thread :)
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I voted yes. Reason explained in the links provided by V and SgtMajor.
:)
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Re: Should FST Ban Account Trading ?
Of course it should be banned, imho it would go a long way to cleaning up the bt section :yup:
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i explain myself in much more detail here
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Re: Should FST Ban Account Trading ?
I say yes/no. Why no? Because it will drive some people out of the forum to move elsewhere because of this. More people here = money for the owner. Doubt the owner wants to lose money.
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Trading is bad.. Not only acc's.. I voted YES! :)
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PoOki
Trading is bad.. Not only acc's.. I voted YES! :)
:yup:
Same here
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Also its simply easier like it or not to get trackers you want. I've made 2 threads in the past for bitmetv and tried to get some off of some giveaways, never did, but people pm'd me to see if I'll trade so it would just cause more difficulty for some users i guess.
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Originally Posted by
Chewy954
Also its simply easier like it or not to get trackers you want. I've made 2 threads in the past for bitmetv and tried to get some off of some giveaways, never did, but people pm'd me to see if I'll trade so it would just cause more difficulty for some users i guess.
it's more simply or it's faster?
btw , i voted yes
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Re: Should FST Ban Account Trading ?
Why should it be banned?
Its a choice you make yourself whether or not you want to risk your accs/invites in a trade...
If you don't want to trade, then don't. But that doesn't mean everybody else feels the same way about it. If you do choose to trade, you should be aware of the risks, and as long as you make smart decisions about who you're trading with, there shouldn't be any problems.
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Faster. Simpler would be not to trade cause only one user just types in a email and a few clicks and your done lol.
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that's just silly. top trackers are usually traded for heavily buffered lower levels, and banning account trade won't make tracker owners think any better of fst unless it's followed by invite trading ban. and that is the point, is this a private tracker owners support board or user board? you don't trust someone? you don't want to jeopardise your account? then don't trade. asking for banning is a bit nazi :)
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Originally Posted by
optimus_prime
that's just silly. top trackers are usually traded for heavily buffered lower levels, and banning account trade won't make tracker owners think any better of fst unless it's followed by invite trading ban. and that is the point, is this a private tracker owners support board or user board? you don't trust someone? you don't want to jeopardise your account? then don't trade. asking for banning is a bit nazi :)
hey optimus prime why dont u transform and roll ur ass outa here....i think acc trading should be banned....
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i think that acct trading sucks it only makes the tracker more
"cheap" as people get a buffer that they dident work thier asses for and leech the hell out of it !
plus the fact that you get busted often
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Originally Posted by
MaaxHimself
Why should it be banned?
Its a choice you make yourself whether or not you want to risk your accs/invites in a trade...
If you don't want to trade, then don't. But that doesn't mean everybody else feels the same way about it. If you do choose to trade, you should be aware of the risks, and as long as you make smart decisions about who you're trading with, there shouldn't be any problems.
I agree 100%.
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On reflection, you should have made this a public vote, they are all hiding behind the anonymity it offers.
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I hope account trading doesn't take place at FST anymore. I traded my ass off for the past couple of months and got some of the trackers I needed. But in the meantime, some of my accounts got disabled and I got scammed big time. To prevent the risks of account trading, I voted YES. I don't want to be a part of any kind of account trading anymore and I don't want any members getting scammed here at FST. I still prepare some giveaways once in a while as I did when I was trading though.
Edit: Btw, I totally agree with SgtMajor on public voting...
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Originally Posted by
SgtMajor
On reflection, you should have made this a public vote, they are all hiding behind the anonymity it offers.
hiding from what?
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Originally Posted by
SgtMajor
On reflection, you should have made this a public vote, they are all hiding behind the anonymity it offers.
did that at first , but thats what admins likes ;)
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Originally Posted by
V For Vendetta
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SgtMajor
On reflection, you should have made this a public vote, they are all hiding behind the anonymity it offers.
did that at first , but thats what admins likes ;)
Which means they will get the result they want.
Don't you just love authority when it's regarding openness & clarity, not.
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Originally Posted by
MaaxHimself
Why should it be banned?
Its a choice you make yourself whether or not you want to risk your accs/invites in a trade...
If you don't want to trade, then don't. But that doesn't mean everybody else feels the same way about it. If you do choose to trade, you should be aware of the risks, and as long as you make smart decisions about who you're trading with, there shouldn't be any problems.
I think the same, you don't trade your acc's if you don't want but who need something and don't have invites just non used acc's then i think it's a good way... But also think if you got disabled or lost your acc cause scammers i need to say it's wrong.
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Originally Posted by
V For Vendetta
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Originally Posted by
SgtMajor
On reflection, you should have made this a public vote, they are all hiding behind the anonymity it offers.
did that at first , but thats what admins likes ;)
:lol: when I saw it switch over I thought I was tripping out.
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Originally Posted by
SgtMajor
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Originally Posted by
V For Vendetta
did that at first , but thats what admins likes ;)
Which means they will get the result they want.
Don't you just love authority when it's regarding openness & clarity, not.
i dont think they will not get the result they want as we can see also the number of voters , also FST Mods not who can do such these things ;)
-V
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i think trading accounts is good cause if u trade a tracker u will use that tracker and u will do a good ratio
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hard to decide:yup:
on the one hand , I agree with that .... because of the common-sense , and we should to respect the site the inviter and our account .
on the other hand , that be futureless to get rare tracker ;)
I'm vote yes:unsure:
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i voted yes .. but trading is gona happen one way or another ..
one way to make it less secure is to take away the middleman and bt rep points and no more banning of scammers.. lol.. why ?? when no one bans scammers , this place will be filled with scammers and everyone will think twice before trading accounts with potential scammers .. :D
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Originally Posted by
Chewy954
I say yes/no. Why no? Because it will drive some people out of the forum to move elsewhere because of this. More people here = money for the owner. Doubt the owner wants to lose money.
the owner doesn't want to get the trackers pissed either. :dry:
most people i think should think trading is bad. Scammers, sellers, and too many cheaters get accounts by trading. It will definitely reduce the amount of that. :ermm:
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To be honest, i want that account trading will be banned, BUT accounttrading is probably the only chance for newbies to get into higher levels.
Therefore i votet for no.
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Originally Posted by
blackbird
i voted yes .. but trading is gona happen one way or another ..
one way to make it less secure is to take away the middleman and bt rep points and no more banning of scammers.. lol.. why ?? when no one bans scammers , this place will be filled with scammers and everyone will think twice before trading accounts with potential scammers .. :D
lol!!!! :w00t:
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Originally Posted by
0sec
To be honest, i want that account trading will be banned, BUT accounttrading is probably the only chance for newbies to get into higher levels.
Therefore i votet for no.
lol... if you are serious.... LOL. trading is the way for newbies to NOT get higher levels you idiot. How would they get them by trading?
demonoid for SCT!
you're probably a trader yourself, or maybe your logic is just horrible, cause that doesn't make any sense.
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Originally Posted by
luismelo4
i think trading accounts is good cause if u trade a tracker u will use that tracker and u will do a good ratio
or you will cheat to get a good ratio. it just depends on how you look at it. I personally hate trading. It just allows people to have too many chances. :(
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lol the owners of trackers wouldnt stop till invites cant be traded either... and its still money like it or not
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scribble
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Chewy954
I say yes/no. Why no? Because it will drive some people out of the forum to move elsewhere because of this. More people here = money for the owner. Doubt the owner wants to lose money.
the owner doesn't want to get the trackers pissed either. :dry:
most people i think should think trading is bad. Scammers, sellers, and too many cheaters get accounts by trading. It will definitely reduce the amount of that. :ermm:
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@scribble
hey you stupid arse, who give you the right to flaming around?
If you think that my logic is horrible, you should check yours!
I wont explain what i mean and when it doesnt make any sense for you, simply s***.
Damn users like you should got banned!
And btw. you are in the BT Invite Trading section... So why are you there if you hate trading?
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Then why the hell is anyone else here? Most of the users here don't trade.
you are definitely a trader.
btw, my logic is quite good. Yours is just terrible.
You will leave when trading is gone. Btw i am here because many people here are very nice, and they know me, and they like me, that's why i am not banned. Btw, i didn't flame you. If you wanna see some flame, post some moar....
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Chewy954
lol the owners of trackers wouldnt stop till invites cant be traded either... and its still money like it or not
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Originally Posted by
scribble
the owner doesn't want to get the trackers pissed either. :dry:
most people i think should think trading is bad. Scammers, sellers, and too many cheaters get accounts by trading. It will definitely reduce the amount of that. :ermm:
Well, trading ruins communities. Yes the owners of trackers wouldn't stop till invites can't be traded, it's correct. :( I hope it's some time soon. It ruins the P2P Community.
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Originally Posted by
optimus_prime
that's just silly. top trackers are usually traded for heavily buffered lower levels, and banning account trade won't make tracker owners think any better of fst unless it's followed by invite trading ban. and that is the point, is this a private tracker owners support board or user board? you don't trust someone? you don't want to jeopardise your account? then don't trade. asking for banning is a bit nazi :)
TBH you have some good points and some bad points in my own opinion/experience.
While I am completely against the trading of accounts...
I dont see any issues with giving people invites... However some sites clearly specify that they should be given to people you know and trust. As we all know 90% of the people who receive invites dont even know the people that invited them.
The topic of this thread clearly states.... ACCOUNT TRADING.
Which in my opinion could/should not be allowed here.
All it would basically require is the staff to delete and/or give out warnings for basic (ACCOUNT) trades.
This would then make the section what it is named (And SUPPOSED to be intended for...) INVITES...
Invites are not Account trades last time I checked.
TBH I feel alot of Staff from trackers would feel at least a slight bit better about FST in general if they knew the Staff here were working with them at stopping account trades. Im not saying the FST staff should give ips to the Tracker staff or anything. A simple deletion of the offending threads basically shows they are in some way, shape, and form trying to support the trackers.
However if anything was decided to be changed... It should be up to the users and not based on what Staff from Torrent sites thing. (which is the part Im share similiar view points with Optimus.)
I also doubt it would be removed... and even if it was as chewie thinks... some reps would probably try and get invites section removed as well...
(But who says its up to the reps to decide anyways... this is a user poll is it not?)
Another reason I doubt they would be removed is due to the fact... a great MAJORITY of the posts on this whole site are done in the invites section daily. If they removed that section their $$$ making honeypot would be gone. (Not saying they make ubber amounts of money off the adds.) But basically I imagine it costing around $20 a month if not less... to host a forum like this. I see other sites like T-D say they make around $80 a month on impressions. They dont have 1/4 the amount of hits I imagine this site gets for those add views.. Then again im sure quite a few of those adds dont make any revenue at all. But basically to sums it up... if they removed the invites section altogether they would be losing money in my opinion which nobody in their right might would want to do.
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As a trader myself, I say ban all trading. I got most of what I have by trading and from giveaways, but I'm sure I would be fine without trading as well. It would just force me to proove myself more and make more online contacts.
Trading makes the torrent world very unsafe.
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The only thing i will add here is that i only can laugh about such a kiddie like you. :shifty:
Get some sleep and cool down...
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As long as there are rare trackers with awesome material that is difficult, if not impossible, to obtain elsewhere there will always be traders. As long as there is a very limited amount of members and even fewer invites to obtain, there will always be traders.
Sometimes I wish certain sites would allow more members because you never know what they could offer or contribute, making the content even better. However, I guess I can understand why they would want to be a close-knit private tracker. I think.
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whether I trade or Not , didnit matter, I was trying to do GOOD ', respecting totally, of that Site and what did I get? Accuse wrongly... by the REVOLT admin. I could give a Flying F**K NOW !!
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Its prolly good step, you get scammers, cheaters out of this place (most of them).
On the other hand, trading is not that bad. Between users, who just want to obtain trackers for their own use and there is no chance for them to get it other way. As everywhere in RL, depends on ppl. There is no Hell and Heaven. For me its 50/50.
Well, with respect to tracker owners.
Voting yes.
ps: scribble, you called him 'idiot' just for his opinion..yes there are many nice ppl here, but u dont seem to be one of them :P
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trad3r
As a trader myself, I say ban all trading. I got most of what I have by trading and from giveaways, but I'm sure I would be fine without trading as well. It would just force me to proove myself more and make more online contacts.
Trading makes the torrent world very unsafe.
that's what you say AFTER you trade for all the accounts you need :dry:
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Originally Posted by
0sec
The only thing i will add here is that i only can laugh about such a kiddie like you. :shifty:
Get some sleep and cool down...
lol, because you have nothing to say. gj. you fail noob.