BAN them from invites section!!!

i just read this post and a lot of other similar posts too......

some people dont even read :i said ban them from invites section since all they do is enforce something they believe on every one else who r happy they way they are..if what these anti traders believe is soo perfect how come not everyone else believes it....they have to learn to repect people for what they are...stop enforcing rules...if u cant respect fst for what it is what will you repect other tracker rules..and if they(anti traders) find that some one is worthy of their invites they can always message them in private and give away thier invites

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Originally Posted by Forumas

I havent see any rules on FST that is forbiden to trade or give invites for Flower..

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and you full an well, that there will never be any such rules on FST, because its a traders heaven :emule:!!!!...... it's against the trackers rules not to trade.. and they are taking full stance on it!


so in essence TRADERS = BAN!!!!!

Get It....!!!????

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this is my justification(reply):

no one asked for UR(anti traders,in general) opinion.....if U dont like some thing dont reply..what r U even doing in invite section,dont U know EVEN GIVEAWAYS ARE AGAINST THE TRACKER RULES....if U r not interested in giveaways if U r not intersted in trading,y do U want to see whats written on invites section..people like U should be banned from invites section....stop acting like U r perfect....every one makes their share of mistakes.....people are different from each other ...dont expect every one to be just like U...

i think its time people should decide if they r trader or anti trader?....some people say they r anti traders and still trade in discrete.i mean its good for both "traders" and "anti traders"
and even the wtaw thread is only considered by traders atleast all the anti traders say that.


and by definition...anti traders are those who r against trading because its against tracker rules.

IF NOT ANYTHING THEY SHOULD BE ATLEAST STOPPED FROM ABUSING THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF FST!!! ....when you r a part of something,a community like fst,if u cant appreciateit, atleast dont abuse it.

I just cant reply to each of these posts directed against me.. i have wrote all i could with little knowledge i have...and thats it.

for some of you who have more time to read:
"all i am telling you guys is that trading is not as bad as you think it is,it is just like a giveaways just that you expect something back,is that soo bad that you r considerd an outcaste,just because its against site rules that doesnt mean its always bad..cant you guys think for yourselves for once...if some site is gonna get hacked or some site is gonna go down...trading has nuthing to do with it,if that was the case every public tracker would have been taken down by now...do u really think these "ANTI PIRACY" spies would trade their way into something? make offers like i will give you 1 tt and 1 sct and 1 bitmetv for 1 ftn"...and even if "ANTI PIRACY GROUP" want to take down a site y would they wanna take out these sites with small user base(level 5 and above)?,even if they doo the chances of the traded id falling into rong hands is .0000001 ...if u were working for an anti piracy group would you take down level 9-10 with 5000 users or level 1-2-3 with 100,000 users? and even more so 90% of the trading that goes on is between "level 1-4"....so much for the answer "trading will put site security into risk " and all the bullsh*t answers they give......just like everything in life...everything that has a start has to end....u cant expect these sites to live for ever...when u can make a giveaway y not trade it for some other site you want,if the traders are not asking for money i think trading is fine...these traders just want to move up the food chain,and we all know 70% of the time bigger(HIGER LEVELS) the better,soo some one trying to trade to get better and more reliable sites is not bad,is it?...just because traders are a bit rebellious to get an approval from the "anti traders(usually an already member)" ,what makes these "anti traders(usually an already member)" soo superiour then "traders" that they could judge someone ,...dont tell me the answer is "they follow rules".huh,alteast thats the answer i hear mostly,i have seen "traders" have been a better member (shared more )then most of these "anti traders"...and i can prove it with ratios of some "traders" i know..

and for the same reason you should be banned from the sites you try to trade...

the difference is that you do not have the balls to say what you are doing under your real site nick... scared uh? :P

calm down man, you take it too seriously

o/p U snatched the owrds out of my mouth

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Originally Posted by yayyyyyy

and for the same reason you should be banned from the sites you try to trade...

the difference is that you do not have the balls to say what you are doing under your real site nick... scared uh? :P

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QFT lol

yes !! they have nothing to do there exepct : "give it away better than trade it" or : "the tracker will ban you bla bla bla "

Ban for spam sounds good to me :) Cause they are doing exactly this.

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and for the same reason you should be banned from the sites you try to trade...

the difference is that you do not have the balls to say what you are doing under your real site nick... scared uh? :P

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what about when u accept giveaways here of FST.. is that not against the site rules??..and i use the same nick in almost all the sites i am a member of.. and not everything i have is traded...some had open sign ups too ,and some were given by the people i know...

SPEAKING OF BALLS I HAVE PLENTY OF IT..IF I DIDNT HAVE THE BALLS I WOULD HAVE NOT CREATED THIS THREAD..

why should people clearly disrespect the rules of a tracker especially when staff from that tracker have stated that they want no trading ????? and why should ppl who have no respect for tracker security be allowed on private sites??? why is it that people are so worried about what others say to the point they start a thread like this!!???


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where's the kiss my a** option???

as i said before im not trader but also im not against tradeing either..

if someone cant get invite for free and if his only option to trade to get that invite i can understand that..

but whenever i see *Anti-Trader* i can only good laugh on that:lol:

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if U dont like some thing dont reply

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Glad to see you're leading by example there :P

Why do traders always assume they are the FST community?
If anti-traders saying things you don't like is "abusing the community", then how is this thread any different? Is it that only traders are allowed to state their opinions? Did I miss the part where the site was renamed to "trading-talk-only!!!OMG111!!.com"?

BTW, applying the term "community" to a group of people whose only connection to each other is what they can screw the others out of is wrong. Nobody ever made out that wall street is a great community, because it isn't. Many friendships formed from something other than "What can I get?" would be worthy of the title.

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Originally Posted by jasperr

why should people clearly disrespect the rules of a tracker especially when staff from that tracker have stated that they want no trading ????? and why should ppl who have no respect for tracker security be allowed on private sites??? why is it that people are so worried about what others say to the point they start a thread like this!!???

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to get people like you banned from the FST invites section....u r not greatfull,fst has given you a lot has it not... IF U CANT RESPECT FST FOR WHAT IT IS....WHAT WILL U RESPECT OTHER TRACKER RULES

so what is is thread abt i don`t understand...:lol:
btw anti trader and traders they make me laugh
(sakingsny is on golden neutral side)

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if U dont like some thing dont reply

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Glad to see you're leading by example there :P

Why do traders always assume they are the FST community?
If anti-traders saying things you don't like is "abusing the community", then how is this thread any different? Is it that only traders are allowed to state their opinions? Did I miss the part where the site was renamed to "trading-talk-only!!!OMG111!!.com"?

BTW, applying the term "community" to a group of people whose only connection to each other is what they can screw the others out of is wrong. Nobody ever made out that wall street is a great community, because it isn't. Many friendships formed from something other than "What can I get?" would be worthy of the title.

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i am just telling they dont need to have access to invites section...because they think its all crap...and they want to respect tracker rules soo be it...dont force every one to follow some rule you follow

voted for "yes" :P:P

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Originally Posted by jasperr

why should people clearly disrespect the rules of a tracker especially when staff from that tracker have stated that they want no trading ????? and why should ppl who have no respect for tracker security be allowed on private sites??? why is it that people are so worried about what others say to the point they start a thread like this!!???

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to get people like you banned from the FST invites section....u r not greatfull,fst has given you a lot has it not... IF U CANT RESPECT FST FOR WHAT IT IS....WHAT WILL U RESPECT OTHER TRACKER RULES

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on the contrary, i have a lot of respect for tracker rules..... and what makes you think i am not grateful... just becuase i'm stating some thoughts and taking a stance on something?? please spare me the dribble.... :cry1:

why cant you traders put every anti trader on ignore ??

:lol:

its a simple solution to all your problems :lol:

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i am just telling they dont need to have access to invites section...because they think its all crap...and they want to respect tracker rules soo be it...dont force every one to follow some rule you follow

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and you do not want to respect these rules? I do not like this crap!

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Originally Posted by stitched

i am just telling they dont need to have access to invites section...because they think its all crap...and they want to respect tracker rules soo be it...dont force every one to follow some rule you follow

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Ah, but here's the thing.

In case you missed it, the "trading section" is actually labeled "Bittorrent Invites" with the subheading of "Ask, get and give BitTorrent Invites here.". It makes no mention of trading at all. Myself and others have allowed our sites to be listed in organised giveaways in that section.

It seems that you are trying to "force everyone to follow some rule you follow", that rule being that the section for giving of invites should actually be completely taken over and converted to nothing but trade. How's that for respecting FST?

Traders do not own FST, and they certainly don't have any moral highground to talk about following rules.

cmon who now have balls bigger is better
e-penis competition who will win traders or anti traders
i will be referee :lol:

all i'm saying is this.. the staff of that tracker has stated they dont allow trading.... they also don't want invite giveaways... why are you still trying to trade that tracker (or any other tracker for that matter) that has stated this?? that says in a nutshell that your not worthy of being a member of any site.. cause you just just simply give it away for the next better thing... thats the problem...

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i am just telling they dont need to have access to invites section...because they think its all crap...and they want to respect tracker rules soo be it...dont force every one to follow some rule you follow

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Ah, but here's the thing.

In case you missed it, the "trading section" is actually labeled "Bittorrent Invites" with the subheading of "Ask, get and give BitTorrent Invites here.". It makes no mention of trading at all. Myself and others have allowed our sites to be listed in organised giveaways in that section.

It seems that you are trying to "force everyone to follow some rule you follow", that rule being that the section for giving of invites should actually be completely taken over and converted to nothing but trade. How's that for respecting FST?

Traders do not own FST, and they certainly don't have any moral highground to talk about following rules.

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oh yeah..atleast i dont go threatning people telling if you dont trade i will ban you from some particular torrent site BECAUSE I HaVE THE POWER TO DO SO.....and hey when FST is ok with people trading invites..y do anti traders have to come and say what traders are doing is rong...dont you thing FST can decide that...and as far as making friends and givingaway invites to some one whom you think is worthy enough that can be done without having access to INVITES section...IF YOU(ANTI TRADERS) FIND SOME ONE WORTHY OF AN INVITE MESSAGE HIM IN PRIVATE AND GIVEAWAY YOUR INVITE.. u need not blow your own trumphet that you r making a big giveaway

yeah here we are again. some of those anti-traders are new here and they wanna get some sites by posting like that, also some of they don't know the meant of the "respect" word or the "trust" one.

i really don't bother with this kind of persons, they are free to think as their own and i'll respect their choose.

I used to be a trader (i think that still i am but instead to trade i'm helping my friends), i used to giveaway invites, i used to ask for free invites.. now i'm only me and in the end really doesn't matter.. only if you have friends. i don't care if you are a trader or an anti-trader as long i can trust you and you don't cheat my trust.


i'm agree with this thing.. everyone should have their own way.. if they trade than let them trade.. if they like to give and receive free invites than why should us to stop them ? also as long are you correct with the others than you should be a good member for fst community.

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all i'm saying is this.. the staff of that tracker has stated they dont allow trading.... they also don't want invite giveaways... why are you still trying to trade that tracker (or any other tracker for that matter) that has stated this?? that says in a nutshell that your not worthy of being a member of any site.. cause you just just simply give it away for the next better thing... thats the problem...

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1>it wasnt me who created that trading thread...
2>second it wasnt your thread which made me create this thread,,,..there are a lot more similar posts like yours on FST
3>please reread your posts.. u made more then posting what the tracker rules was trying to say...u were accusing FST

I QUOTED YOUR POST AS AN EXAMPLE...thats it

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IF YOU(ANTI TRADERS) FIND SOME ONE WORTHY OF AN INVITE MESSAGE HIM IN PRIVATE AND GIVEAWAY YOUR INVITE.. u need not blow your own trumphet that you r making a big giveaway

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speaking for myself.... i can honestly say that i used do the giveaway thing... but now I DO JUST AS YOU MENTION and do my things in private .. so on that point i can agree with you on...


and btw... i don't really consider myself a anit-trader either... just saying respect the tracker(s) thats all

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all i'm saying is this.. the staff of that tracker has stated they dont allow trading.... they also don't want invite giveaways... why are you still trying to trade that tracker (or any other tracker for that matter) that has stated this?? that says in a nutshell that your not worthy of being a member of any site.. cause you just just simply give it away for the next better thing... thats the problem...

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1>it wasnt me who created that trading thread...
2>second it wasnt your thread which made me create this thread,,,..there are a lot more similar posts like yours on FST
3>please reread your posts.. u made more then posting what the tracker rules was trying to say...u were accusing FST

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1> ok your correct it wasn't you who started that thread.. but i was using the word YOU loosely..
2> it was my post you quoted.. so ??
3> and what i said was a fact as i see it.. and staff has kinda confirmed that point in not so many words in past.. but it is a two way street, there are many people(like me) as you say.. that speak against trading.. but that should give someone a clue!! it's not US against THEM.. at least its not supposed to be anyways.. just a community, but this thread is a testament that, there isnt going to be an nice mesh about it..

It pisses you off (not stitched in particular, but any trader) that someone is pointing out that you're breaking trakers' rules when you trade, and putting us all at risk?

I'll tell you what pisses me off: people who argue how they want to join a certain "high level" tracker for its wonderful community and then trade for it, giving everyone inside that community a big stab in the back.

We are all part of a bigger community: the BT community. FST is not isolated and the actions of its members have consequences in the bigger picture (for better or worse).

You are right in saying that FST allows trading, but that doesn't mean that's the direction we all want to take (far from it). So banning non traders form the invite section is ridiculous.

There are plenty of other forums dedicated just to trading.. (but i'm sure you allredy knew that). And in there i'm sure no one will argue with you if you intend to trade. As I recall, this is an open forum, and everyone is entitle to their opinions. No one is stopping you from making a thread offering accounts/invites for trade, but if you do, then you have to accept the replies that could come. (and that applies to any kind of thread, not just in the BT section).

You say traders don't go trying to force people to do as they do? well, that's obvious. No one would stop them from doing that, but seriously, what argument would they give? It would certainly give me a good laugh..

I'm not against anti traders.I'm against FAKE anti traders :dry: who just say whatever they say not for the sake of following tracker rules, but to be invited by tracker's staff.
and for traders if u don't wanna any one to comment in your thread just close it ,u can open and bump it every few hours.thats why u have the ability to close your own thread in the BT invite section IMO.

so i voted no

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and for the same reason you should be banned from the sites you try to trade...

the difference is that you do not have the balls to say what you are doing under your real site nick... scared uh? :P

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Balls doesn't have anything to do with it, don't you think?

Would you say the same to someone doing a burglary and not leaving his id and a note to the owner?

It's about protecting himself.

I know it's taking it to the extreme but you can see my point.

And to the O/p. People are allowed to think, and they are allowed to post whatever they want as long as it follows the rules on FST. If they don't report their post and it will be taken away.

why do u guys write so much? dam i dont want to read :( not right now aleast

they definitely dont deserve to be banned. they should not be allowed to post about their opinions (like you will be banned) when it is against the traders opinion. and if they do, they should get a warning. thats all

ban ban ban

just alittel suggestion if we can have section for reqs and section for trade invites thats will solve the problem

coz there will be no point for anti traders to have axx to trade section i belive

and that trade section dont allowed the trackers mods to axx too

and will decrease the spam either

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I feel like a newb, I don't get all this hatred between the anti and the anti-anti people....

And stiched, just chillax and take it easy dude, your heart is going to betray you soon... If you get this worked up over some crap that you don't even have to be a part of, I can only imagine....

BTW, I voted "no"...:whistling

at this point I cannot understand why this forum censor site urls (that cannot be made public as per site rules) but do not censor trades of accounts/invites/whatever not allowed as per tracker rules...

both or none?

jasperr... you stirring up shit again??

can't leave you alone for a minute.:rolleyes:

and there is one thing i want to clarify about this here:

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oh yeah..atleast i dont go threatning people telling if you dont trade i will ban you from some particular torrent site BECAUSE I HaVE THE POWER TO DO SO

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speaking for myself...when i said trading = ban..... that was not a threat... THAT IS FACT... ask a lot of the folks that recently started in on the trading frenzy of one paticular tracker... and it was that paticular tracker i was speaking about only....


just to clear that point up....

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jasperr... you stirring up shit again??

can't leave you alone for a minute.:rolleyes:

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lmao..... guess not.. :shifty:

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and there is one thing i want to clarify about this here:

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oh yeah..atleast i dont go threatning people telling if you dont trade i will ban you from some particular torrent site BECAUSE I HaVE THE POWER TO DO SO

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speaking for myself...when i said trading = ban..... that was not a threat... THAT IS FACT... ask a lot of the folks that recently started in on the trading frenzy of one paticular tracker... and it was that paticular tracker i was speaking about only....


just to clear that point up....

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Im agreeing with jasperr here, certain trackers do not even allow trading of accounts and most of them dont allow trading of invites fst just wont allow them to say that as they think its unfair to the community here. (you can view them in the faq for the section!)

The invite giveaways you have seen for those trackers have been done by staff or members authorized to do so by the trackers staff, not by the average user.

Rules are rules...:lol:

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and there is one thing i want to clarify about this here:




speaking for myself...when i said trading = ban..... that was not a threat... THAT IS FACT... ask a lot of the folks that recently started in on the trading frenzy of one paticular tracker... and it was that paticular tracker i was speaking about only....


just to clear that point up....

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Im agreeing with jasperr here, certain trackers do not even allow trading of accounts and most of them dont allow trading of invites fst just wont allow them to say that as they think its unfair to the community here. (you can view them in the faq for the section!)

The invite giveaways you have seen for those trackers have been done by staff or members authorized to do so by the trackers staff, not by the average user.

Rules are rules...:lol:

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The point isn't weather or not its against rules, its the fact that it isn't against FST rules. If fst does not have rules against said trade, then no one has the right to get on a soap box and spout off rules of ANOTHER SITE all together. These posts are happening in a trading section, in accordence with FST rules, so IMO, go spam somewhere else.

PS I do not know what tracker you were specifically posting about, but this comment was mostly in response to the OP, so if your talking about trades/giveaways that were against fst rules, sorry, but it seemed relevent to my post so I included it.

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The point isn't weather or not its against rules, its the fact that it isn't against FST rules. If fst does not have rules against said trade, then no one has the right to get on a soap box and spout off rules of ANOTHER SITE all together. These posts are happening in a trading section, in accordence with FST rules, so IMO, go spam somewhere else.

PS I do not know what tracker you were specifically posting about, but this comment was mostly in response to the OP, so if your talking about trades/giveaways that were against fst rules, sorry, but it seemed relevent to my post so I included it.

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the rules that we're talking about are the rules of the tracker(s) being traded.. .. and as far as FST rules on the subject.. there are none and perhaps never will be because this is a free trade enviornment... but, personally i think better efforts can be made to accomadate the traders and the non traders... outright banning or limiting of either is not the answer either.... what would be a solution.. i dunno.. but i'm sure theres a happy medium somewhere...

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The point isn't weather or not its against rules, its the fact that it isn't against FST rules. If fst does not have rules against said trade, then no one has the right to get on a soap box and spout off rules of ANOTHER SITE all together. These posts are happening in a trading section, in accordence with FST rules, so IMO, go spam somewhere else.

PS I do not know what tracker you were specifically posting about, but this comment was mostly in response to the OP, so if your talking about trades/giveaways that were against fst rules, sorry, but it seemed relevent to my post so I included it.

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the rules that we're talking about are the rules of the tracker(s) being traded.. .. and as far as FST rules on the subject.. there are none and perhaps never will be because this is a free trade enviornment... but, personally i think better efforts can be made to accomadate the traders and the non traders... outright banning or limiting of either is not the answer either.... what would be a solution.. i dunno.. but i'm sure theres a happy medium somewhere...

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And my solution is for the anti traders to not spam rules that are not relevent here. This would solve the problem, for me anyway, since most of the issue is with people bitching about trades being against the rules, but not the rules here. Let them post on the tracker's forums about the trade, and bitch there, where the rules apply. Also, what do anti traders care if its a bad idea to trade? So they (traders) get ban'd if they get caught, and you have one less trader on your site, thats a good thing (for anti-traders) right?

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How are Traders putting a Torrent Site any more at risk than they do themselves at open sign up....

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can you please disable the tt account...or if there is any one who i could speak to about disabling my tt id:xxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx<---he scammed my tt account...
here r a few proofs...
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...15/xxxxx.png
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...5/xxxxx.png
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...5/xxxxxx.png
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...15/xxxxxx.png
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...5/xxxxxxx.png
you can find his email on top of the msn messenger window...in the last window you can see he is offline.....its displayed on the messenger window
i told him i dont have swedvdr invite anymore since i gave it back to my inviter...and asked if he would accept tt instead for a fsc invite....after a lot of begging he finally agreed to scam me....he conviniced me enough.. he said he was on ftwr,ftn,fsc,revolt....and some one invited him for free to fsc on revolt....and i totally fell for it..i even promised him i would get him a swedvdr invite from a friend of mine after 2 months...i was pretty frustrated after having lost ftn account earlier
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...f-261478...and now tt....and the whole tot of getting into fsc got me all excited and pumped up....and that too 24th december 1 day left for christmas...he even said he would request in the middle man...but like always my greed got the better of me.. and since he had totally convinced me he was not a scammer i went ahead with the trade and give him the account details
i got scammed i am unlucky trading after all
sorry for the inconvienience i have caused...i will never trade again...i have lost all the things i could lose...

if you can please disable the tt id:xxxxxx i will be very thankfull
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now here we have a poor wining guy, that will never trade again. :happy:

is that the great trader who wants to ban people from the invite section?

or just someone who kisses an admins ass?

sorry about this mate, but you started to shout :cool:


i xxxed out private information.