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If you giveaway an account, or get one from a giveaway, all the tracker staff will see is the IP change on the account.
They will assume the original account holder and the new account holder traded.
There is a strong possibility you will both be banned and your info handed to other trackers, with you both being labeled as traders and banned from further trackers.

So don't fucking do it, for your own fucking good.

It's up to you, of course, but.
The amount of users that don't understand this simple, fucking concept astounds me. :dabs:

lol

Knowledge is power... :o)

now what?...

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Originally Posted by wevotedno

now what?...

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It seems every time we ban someone with a traded account we have to explain this to them. :dabs:

So now I can just link the to the post. :smilie4:

You do mean IP Range change right??:huh:

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Originally Posted by benchez

If you giveaway an account, or get one from a giveaway, all the tracker staff will see is the IP change on the account.
They will assume the original account holder and the new account holder traded.
There is a strong possibility you will both be banned and your info handed to other trackers, with you both being labeled as traders and banned from further trackers.

So don't fucking do it, for your own fucking good.

It's up to you, of course, but.
The amount of users that don't understand this simple, fucking concept astounds me. :dabs:

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Originally Posted by benchez

If you giveaway an account, or get one from a giveaway, all the tracker staff will see is the IP change on the account.
They will assume the original account holder and the new account holder traded.
There is a strong possibility you will both be banned and your info handed to other trackers, with you both being labeled as traders and banned from further trackers.

So don't fucking do it, for your own fucking good.

It's up to you, of course, but.
The amount of users that don't understand this simple, fucking concept astounds me. :dabs:

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cant you say it politely ?
btw you give out IP to other ? thats not cool at all lol, i understand by that (since any staff can see your IP and give it out) its not secure to be there ,
humm i think i will delete my account getting by trade lol
(seriously traders *like me lol* are much more smart then you and all your staff team)

Although i dont really support trading or neither i am anti-trader, but there are few precautionary measures can be taken before making a trade.

1- Try to trade with someone from your own country.
2- If you want to trade with someone from another country, tell staff in advance that you're going to another country for some days or something and keep low profile for a while. Afterall Staff are human too. Trust me it works like a charm :)

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Originally Posted by predateur

(seriously traders *like me lol* are much more smart then you and all your staff team)

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:glag: Yes of course you are. That much is clear.

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Originally Posted by predateur

(seriously traders *like me lol* are much more smart then you and all your staff team)

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:glag: Yes of course you are. That much is clear.

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Funnier still when you read the original quote aloud in your best French accent.. :o)

giveaway is as bad as trading - there is no real difference.

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Originally Posted by Ghostbusters

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Originally Posted by benchez

:glag: Yes of course you are. That much is clear.

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Funnier still when you read the original quote aloud in your best French accent.. :o)

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anyway , with my French accent i did what staff , anti trader , non trader and all B.S think its impossible to do :) and its the reason why am here , iam not here to improve my english ....

Sorry predateur but my knowledge of the English language is somewhat limited.
Did you just say that your raison d'etre is to be a cheat?

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Sorry predateur but my knowledge of the English language is somewhat limited.
Did you just say that your raison d'etre is to be a cheat?

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no lol, i meant trading what is suposed to be impossible to trade ;)

here comes the real answer for me for getting banned from what :D

he's right

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Originally Posted by predateur

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Sorry predateur but my knowledge of the English language is somewhat limited.
Did you just say that your raison d'etre is to be a cheat?

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no lol, i meant trading what is suposed to be impossible to trade ;)

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You think your so very clever trying to beat the system. :dabs:
The problem is, trackers aren't against users, they just want to be secure. The stance you take however is against the well being of trackers. It's people like you that are responsible for sites getting shut down. Clearly you don't give a fuck if sites get closed down. You are against BT. I would put you in the same category as anyone who is a threat to private trackers, like BREIN etc.
You are happy to take what you want and happy to treat the people that give it to you FOR FREE like shit and irresponsibly make trouble for them. Yeah great morals you have there.

It's not a fucking game kids. Staffers don't want to waste their time chasing after foolish kids. If you just respected the rules (which are there for a damn good reason) the staff could concentrate on making their sites better instead of chasing after kids who find it hilarious to break the rules and give them the runaround.

If every single trader was global banned from all the trustworthy trackers, maybe they'd learn their lesson.
People like predateur make it hard for us (staffers) to be lenient to others. In fact it's people like him that make staff in to harsh bastards.

They start off trying to help people, then, the more they are lied to repeatedly and let down, the harsher, and less trusting they are with the next guy.

So next time you are banned, blame people like him, not the staff. :dry:

I thought you had given up tilting at windmills benchez ? don't you know it's the buzz of being a 1337 trader and going through all the trackers to get to..........what I'm not quite sure, because at the end of the rainbow are the small community based trackers where the users know each other and the content is not based on pre's but on user requests, so the holy grail of the traders is a massive letdown :glag:

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Originally Posted by predateur

no lol, i meant trading what is suposed to be impossible to trade ;)

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You think your so very clever trying to beat the system. :dabs:
The problem is, trackers aren't against users, they just want to be secure. The stance you take however is against the well being of trackers. It's people like you that are responsible for sites getting shut down. Clearly you don't give a fuck if sites get closed down. You are against BT. I would put you in the same category as anyone who is a threat to private trackers, like BREIN etc.
You are happy to take what you want and happy to treat the people that give it to you FOR FREE like shit and irresponsibly make trouble for them. Yeah great morals you have there.

It's not a fucking game kids. Staffers don't want to waste their time chasing after foolish kids. If you just respected the rules (which are there for a damn good reason) the staff could concentrate on making their sites better instead of chasing after kids who find it hilarious to break the rules and give them the runaround.

If every single trader was global banned from all the trustworthy trackers, maybe they'd learn their lesson.
People like predateur make it hard for us (staffers) to be lenient to others. In fact it's people like him that make staff in to harsh bastards.

They start off trying to help people, then, the more they are lied to repeatedly and let down, the harsher, and less trusting they are with the next guy.

So next time you are banned, blame people like him, not the staff. :dry:

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hey man, take it easy
you have to know , i dont trade for pleasure i trade when i want to join a tracker because in my opinion its the fastest way and easy , i dont wanna licking ass for an invite or made stupide request and write my life and my dreams there ect...
and also you have to know, i was allways good member on all of my trackers, never been banned because of trade , i was only once banned from what.cd because i gave away 3 invites here at FST(that was a big mistake)
and you have to know also , i never ever made any trouble to any of my inviter
and yeah i helped many time people to join *for free* to great trackers and hard to get (once lvl9)

if you staff of private trackers make it easy and add a channel on your IRC (for example) , where people can request and speak directly to staff so they can join i persoanly dont see any reason to trade.

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Originally Posted by predateur

and also you have to know, i was allways good member on all of my trackers, never been banned because of trade , i was only once banned from what.cd because i gave away 3 invites here at FST(that was a big mistake)

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Predateur if you break the most basic and important rules how can you call yourself a good member?

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Originally Posted by predateur

i was only once banned from what.cd because i gave away 3 invites here at FST(that was a big mistake)

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Thanks for the tip. You know you fucked up now. :sneaky:

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and also you have to know, i was allways good member on all of my trackers, never been banned because of trade , i was only once banned from what.cd because i gave away 3 invites here at FST(that was a big mistake)

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Predateur if you break the most basic and important rules how can you call yourself a good member?

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because i dont made any trouble to the site, i dont made any trouble to members, seed well, uploader on 2 sites , donor on most of my sites , dont cheat ....

Listen to yourselves :no:

Listen to each other :no:

Filesharing was built on freedom of information, of sharing, of being a community, of sticking it in the eye of corporate profiteering and exploitation.

You've become no better than the suits you tried to overthrow :(


It's all gone a bit animal farm - Every animal is equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

Let's get back to the essence of what this is all about, getting good quality stuff without having to pay through the nose for it.

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Originally Posted by Ghostbusters

lol

Knowledge is power... :o)

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:lol:

@predateur:

you know what's the difference between you and me?

you simply got no choice. you have to trade and break tracker rules to get into sites.

i don't.

and that feels sooooo good. :D

happy bumping!

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Originally Posted by Barbarossa

Listen to yourselves :no:

Listen to each other :no:

Filesharing was built on freedom of information, of sharing, of being a community, of sticking it in the eye of corporate profiteering and exploitation.

You've become no better than the suits you tried to overthrow :(


It's all gone a bit animal farm - Every animal is equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

Let's get back to the essence of what this is all about, getting good quality stuff without having to pay through the nose for it.

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Exactly what I was thinking.:fst:

@benchez

i will let you comment this :
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...t-trade-171667
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...-trades-171952
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...h-accts-171827

now the reputable anti trader who do his best to kick traders from all trackers was a trader him self , BUT now he changed to be a good guy , and beleave he can be a good guy after his trading but he cant give chance to traders (who can do exactly same thing as him , stop trading when he got all what he want)

c'mon man, dont ignore your past..tell us why you were trader , and what was your point of view
oh and its long list to post all links (you were very active trader lol)
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/searc...7&pp=25&page=8

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

@predateur:

you know what's the difference between you and me?

you simply got no choice. you have to trade and break tracker rules to get into sites.

i don't.

and that feels sooooo good. :D

happy bumping!

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@polarbear
you only said that both Trade and Give Away are same in previous thread.:naughty: http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...79#post2857864

if any person worthy to that site and in future he may become good contributor to that site. then my que is how come those persons enter to site if none of us do GA or trade:(.

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

@predateur:

you know what's the difference between you and me?

you simply got no choice. you have to trade and break tracker rules to get into sites.

i don't.

and that feels sooooo good. :D

happy bumping!

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@polarbear
you only said that both Trade and Give Away are same in previous thread.:naughty: http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...79#post2857864

if any person worthy to that site and in future he may become good contributor to that site. then my que is how come those persons enter to site if none of us do GA or trade:(.

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there's nothing wrong with giving away invites to people you know and trust. just make sure you do it in a way that goes along with the site rules.

also there's nothing wrong with requesting invites.

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now the reputable anti trader who do his best to kick traders from all trackers was a trader him self , BUT now he changed to be a good guy , and beleave he can be a good guy after his trading but he cant give chance to traders (who can do exactly same thing as him , stop trading when he got all what he want)

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I don't have a single traded account. Check my username on any tracker or ask the staff there. :smilie4:

I did make the error of being an utter cunt, but, luckily for me, I was shown a better way, so deleted any accounts i had acquired in that manner.
Yes it was retarded, and yes we have plenty of former traders as members. We do give people a chance, and so do I. I don't try and get people banned from trackers, I only try and keep our place secure. That's my only objective.

If you understood my first post, you would realise I am trying to help people realise the truth about how staff see that activity. The reason I did so is because every day I have to explain that point to someone individually.
So this way the knowledge is more public.

Trying to defame people is just sad. A typical defence mechanism when you clearly realise you are in the wrong. Everyone gets a fair chance at our place, in fact, we are quite forgiving compared to some places. To say I don't give people a chance is a fabrication.

We don't try to be elitest, we are open to anyone joining who doesn't pose a security risk, as I should imagine many invite only trackers are.

Is this the bit you don't get? You say trading is 'quicker'.
Maybe you should learn a little patience. Your trading may get you in to a few places, but ultimately it will blow up in your face. :happy:

The staffers bust a gut and spend a hell of a lot of time getting users stuff they want for free. They don't get paid for it.
To then break the few, simple rules they set out is incredibly disrespectful.

what site are you from benchez?

Check the community rep thread. :smilie4:

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...eps-fst-232869

iTS

So Benchez, just out of curiosity, are you against structured invite giveaways too? Not just random ones, but ones where people do their best to look into the potential recipients? Its still inviting strangers. Some trackers have rules stating only invite friends, but others take the stand of invite who you want, but you'll be responsible if they screw up.
Whats your personal take, and whats iTS's stand on this?

I thought you had me on ignore. :blink:

''I'm tired of arguing with your dumbass, so I'll just put you on ignore.''

Lost your button. :unsure:

Yea, I did, after reading coders post, and revisiting, I was just being...well... an ass. I usually don't know when to quit, and sarcasm doesn't flow over the internet as effectively in real life, so I missed it. Not the worst thing to happen on a forum.
So, if you care to indulge me, back to the question at hand?

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They don't get paid for it.

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Well, some don't get paid. Won't mention names, but there are people making literally bucketloads of cash in these departments.
I'm not saying you are, though.

well the actual "FACT" is "when there are rules some people follow it some people dont",you cant expect everyone to stop trading just because you have.....everyone starts from 0,they will find whats right for them and do the right thing.....its a relative term.

most of them know what they do when they trade
not all trader,ex-traders are bad members....thankfull there is still "the pirate bay " and "demonoid" and "zamunda" and a few others.....most of these sites with smaller user base and fewer torrents boast of a "GREAT COMMUNITY", are just screaming for attention,they want to be recognised , they want more and more request threads in "BITTORRENT INVITE SECTION" with their name on it...

as far as ITS is concerned,i think ITS unique just like every other site,the staff are a lot friendly then what most make of them.i dont think it is an anti-trader site because i know a lot of trader friends who are good members in the site.its just the question of u either have it or u dont and not the question of trader or anti-trader. IF i knew what i know now about bittorrent and various sites when i started using it for the first time,i would have saved me A LOT OF TIME.

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Originally Posted by stitched

as far as ITS is concerned,i think ITS unique just like every other site

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Unique: one of a kind
So, iTS is one of a kind, just like every other site?
Sorry, I'm being an ass again...

WowZrBowser,
That is how I feel about giveaways. If done right, and your willing to stand behind that person, I see it as a good thing. Benchez first post just made me think, how would he (or iTS for that matter) view this? It was a thought provoking post meant to get people thinking, and it did.

unique :all open sign up trackers .......and tl,norbits,swedvdr,ftn,ptn,scl,fsc,uk-t,scc........and etc etc.
unique :ITS

....like.. "YOU are unique just like every one else"

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Originally Posted by stitched

as far as ITS is concerned,i think ITS unique just like every other site

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It was a thought provoking post meant to get people thinking, .

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Whatever stitched has seems to be catching Tokeman.:P