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I am not endorsing or encouraging this, I am just curious as to why no one has created some sort of program that creates invites for private trackers? (considering people's obsession) Something that spites out invites like a keygenerator or something.
good idea. :D
Probably because it's impossible...?
i think it's possible...but you have to know well the source code of the tracker
:lol: Such a generator doesn't require that much skill to cost $10,000Quote:
Originally Posted by sheriff 01
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by meelad
I don't think its impossible but it might be a little difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by KushBlow
cool, pm me your paypal mail :w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by sheriff 01
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Originally Posted by cinephilia
Relevance to thread?
There is no relevance, thats just a picture of cinephilia having a bad day!
It would cheaper to hire a programmer from India to do it than pay $10,000. :lol: I bet they would do a good job too.
not gonna happen ...
good luck.
i would like an invite to paypal tracker with 100,000$ buffer. can do ?
it's too difficult because each tracker has unique method to generate codes which have a lots of letters and numbers
It might happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Tudor
I don't think it is impossible but it is very hard to build up such a program ;.
unless you hack the mysql database, it's not going to happen. just entering random codes in hopes that one will work is an exercise in futility.
Random codes might just do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lysine
Exactly. Someone generates an invite code, which is then stored in the MYSQL database until it is deleted after 48 hours to a week (depending on how long the invite code lasts). The key generator would have to know EXACTLY which codes are currently in the MYSQL database, which is impossible without access to it. Even if you made a script that brute forced the site with every invite code possible, it would take years (even centuries) to see a result. Not to mention that you would be stealing an invite from someone else, and the guy who generated the invite code would probably get suspicious that someone other than the person he invited is on his referral tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by lysine
why i never got the idea?
Nice idea though.I think we ll have to hire coders from razor team or any other scene team if they can crack games from multimillion dollar firms than it should be piece of cake for them to crack this one.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrunal
there's nothing comparable in your example...Quote:
Originally Posted by johny1Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrunal
keep living in your world of illusion.
You should earn your invites by your activity on your sites/forums, such as Fst and your tracker forums. That is cutting corners, a invite generator. Would get banned quick i would think.:blow:
All I am saying is such a program is not impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by cinephiliathere's nothing comparable in your example...Quote:
Originally Posted by johny1
keep living in your world of illusion.
The point of such program is to invite yourself instead of waiting for an invite than maintaining a ratio.Quote:
Originally Posted by pone44
And how would such a program get past a system whereby the inviter needs to verify the invitee after activating the invite.
There is a world of difference between reverse engineering a program, which is there to be dissected, and a custom invite script, which is out of reach. The only way to decide whether a system can be bypassed is by having a working copy of that system to test. No system. No results.
did u saw the last night tv show called star trek...it has the same ideea
not gonna happen:impossible
According, to someone this is pretty simple. You just have to find out how each individual tracker generates its invites. After knowing that...it gets easier.
everyone, has tought about it, but u said it out loud :-)
it an interesting topic thats for sure, maybe someone has done it, but if he did, i bet he would never share it whit the world.
Yeah and go crush a lump of coal in your hand and you'll soon have a diamond.Quote:
Originally Posted by johny1
The idiocy in this thread is astounding. Maybe learn something about how invite systems work before assuming that a keygen is even remotely possible.
Exactly. Let's say an invite code is only 16 characters longs, and composed of only lower-cased alphanumeric characters. The number of permutations is: n! / (n - k)! = (26 + 10)! / (26 + 10 - 16)! = 36! / 20! = 3.71993326789901217468e41 / 2.43290200817664e18 = 152901072685905223680000 permutations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheeseman1208Exactly. Someone generates an invite code, which is then stored in the MYSQL database until it is deleted after 48 hours to a week (depending on how long the invite code lasts). The key generator would have to know EXACTLY which codes are currently in the MYSQL database, which is impossible without access to it. Even if you made a script that brute forced the site with every invite code possible, it would take years (even centuries) to see a result. Not to mention that you would be stealing an invite from someone else, and the guy who generated the invite code would probably get suspicious that someone other than the person he invited is on his referral tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by lysine
your post made them stfu :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brenya
thanks.
there is a difference between hacking and cracking. getting into someones SQL database is hacking. writing a keygen for software is cracking. you guys are getting the two mixed up.
hacking and cracking are night and day too. hacking involves finding a vulnerability aka an exploit and using it to your advantage. it is finding a hole. cracking is just looking through assem, seeing how a program works, and then either altering the code so it does what you want it to (easy) or reversing the code to make a keygen (harder).
cracking has nothing to do with hacking it is night and day.
i've always thought of cracking as malicious hacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielleD87
Just create a virus, one that evolves itself and nothing can find it, and then as a trojan gets there and makes the tracker give you an invite and disapairs after the job is done.
The only post you should really take note of, since it from a coder that has designed the code for such systems and one of the major contributors to TBDev.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
A keygen works by attacking a hash based system, one where the keys aren't stored in the program. This is why many programs started using activation systems as well. However, few companies tie the activation system into the list of keys actually sold. If they did, keygens would no longer work. Most private trackers do not use hash based systems, but rather generated and stored keys, which cannot be guessed outside of brute forcing. Our site's code allows for 6277101735386680763835789423207666416102355444464034512896 combinations, literally, of which only 200-1000 are active at any time. To be able to pick one of the 1000 out of that many possible combinations in a week time window is impossible. Time will end before technology to handle that kind of work exists.
OMFG, c'mon people, get a life... life is much more than private trackers...:yup:
While the majority of your post is correct, that last statement isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by waffles_jd
I can remember when it took a day to generate the mandelbrot set, yet a modern PC can generate the same set in less than one second.
The simple fact is that encryption today will become useless tomorrow. New methods of encryption have to be developed to keep up with processing power.
I have also been a member of the Distributed Net projects, and have seen how these decryption problems have got tougher due to newer, and faster, processors powering our machines. When I first joined, they were doing simple md5 algorithms, but nowadays they are hitting much more complicated routines.
The simple fact is that something that could take several years today, make only take several weeks in a few years time, or even days, or hours.
In response to what a lot of people have said, about brute forcing, if an invite requires the inviter to verify, then brute forcing is null. It's like picking a lock, only to find the family home.
Reading through the thread, I was hoping I would find a post by TheFoX. Honestly, he knows what he is talking about...Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtemisThe only post you should really take note of, since it from a coder that has designed the code for such systems and one of the major contributors to TBDev.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
Actually, it's not anything related to encryption. It's two people (the bad guy and the site) picking from a set of random numbers 6x10^57 (or so) strong and hoping to get a match in the same rolling week. Even if we completely ignore the fact that any admin would pick up on the attempts after awhile, it's still essentially impossible for it to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoXWhile the majority of your post is correct, that last statement isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by waffles_jd
I can remember when it took a day to generate the mandelbrot set, yet a modern PC can generate the same set in less than one second.
The simple fact is that encryption today will become useless tomorrow. New methods of encryption have to be developed to keep up with processing power.
I have also been a member of the Distributed Net projects, and have seen how these decryption problems have got tougher due to newer, and faster, processors powering our machines. When I first joined, they were doing simple md5 algorithms, but nowadays they are hitting much more complicated routines.
The simple fact is that something that could take several years today, make only take several weeks in a few years time, or even days, or hours.
In response to what a lot of people have said, about brute forcing, if an invite requires the inviter to verify, then brute forcing is null. It's like picking a lock, only to find the family home.