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So...I've just noticed waffles stats are public now...
Members:48,523
Torrents:264,144/284,397
Seeders:944,723
Leechers:23,046
What's
- Enabled Users: 101,571
- Torrents: 604,944
- Seeders: 2,868,309
- Leechers: 74,833
So, are you telling me, that what is 2x-3x larger than waffles? That's surprising, I almost thought they were similar in size...
that is correct.. what has been twice as large in regards to both userbase and torrents for quite some time (like a year or so?).
Thatīs the stats,... good work.
know what ?
well actually thats what you are telling me :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by EyeCandy
When the site dumps some of it's most active users and top uploaders it's no bloody wonder they suffer. Oh well.
which one? :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Six66Mike
i see you've been banned at waffles but is there anything that makes you sure that there couldn't be any symmetrical process?
banned ? what did u do ?
I wont care about stats . they are both g8 music trackers ....
I was gone nearly a year ago, and know of 2 pretty top users gone in the past month. Check the top 10 lists for uploading unless they've been removed from there as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by kukushkawhich one? :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Six66Mike
i see you've been banned at waffles but is there anything that makes you sure that there couldn't be any symmetrical process?
Outstanding leaks, lately at whatcd... something is changing in there...
and what would that be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad-Day
just curious.. :shifty:
What is changing in there ?Quote:
Originally Posted by n00bz0rand what would that be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad-Day
just curious.. :shifty:
Amen to that!Quote:
Originally Posted by lisabritpop
scenesound is the best right now...for scene releases only
and neither what.cd nor waffles.fm are worth the hassle...they both suck cuz neither's archive is sufficient enough for an avid music collector...
if i were to choose between a free Megaupload account and what.cd permanent free leech i would sure go for MU...and by the way google is the best tracker and there are some websites out there who release stuff a week sooner than these so-called scene trackers.
lol....scenesound is good...but it cant compete with what & waffles:pinch:Quote:
Originally Posted by F-Sicx
Afaik neither What nor Waffles is a scnene tracker.Quote:
Originally Posted by F-Sicx
IMO it's about quality more than quantity. Maybe it's just me, though.
quality over quantity - it's about couple flac trackers, not about w/w. sure, there are some quality releases there, but generally, it's a total mess. starting with the lack of strict rules for tagging etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Martinator
Well said. Especially with the tagging bullshit. I cannot stand grabbing an album from What/Waffles only to find out the tags are a mess, and I have to go through and re-tag everything myself since the uploader didn't show a little care and do it him/herself before putting it on the tracker.Quote:
Originally Posted by kukushka
This is understandable if you grabbed the album from slsk, a forum, or even Demonoid. But that shouldn't be on trackers that specialize in music. And don't get me wrong, I think W/W are great sites with impressive archives(no matter what others think) and those rare gems. But they're always my last stop for an album.
Of course I agree with you guys. But TBH, I've had very little problems with What/Waffles when it comes to the downloaded files. Then again, I'm prolly not as big on music as you two.
PS: I have had a problem with an album from P's once. It wasn't tagged right.
They both suck tbh. Ratio is impossible on both unless you upload your own CD's that haven't been upped yet. Just buy a buffered account and get what you want, or an invite and hit and run what you want. Rinse and repeat. Easier than waiting 2 years for the next FL.
Haha. You, sir, are a friggin genious!! :lol: NOT.Quote:
Originally Posted by bas1c
PS: You could try DDL sites. No ratios there.
FTP > DDL.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_MartinatorHaha. You, sir, are a friggin genious!! :lol: NOT.Quote:
Originally Posted by bas1c
PS: You could try DDL sites. No ratios there.
Trackers are fun, but what.cd isn't.
no offense but you are a retarded bas1c, just because you cant maintain a ratio there it doesnt mean they suck it means YOU suck there are 100k members that can maintain a ratio on what & 50k on waffles
yeah and about thei say goodluck with that.Quote:
"buy a buffered account and get what you want, or an invite and hit and run what you want. Rinse and repeat.
so thats it, you only dl on freeleeches?, i give you a good advice stick to your shitty limewire & ddl forums and dont come near private trackersQuote:
Easier than waiting 2 years for the next FL
if u cant share dont bother joining one, nobody wants you in their site
wow bas1c just wow!
Talk about honesty!
ps:============D~~~~~~~~
N/m forget it. Enjoy your lvl 3 tracker. :)
Wow, Bas1c sorta sounds like a douche. I'm not saying he is one, just sounds like it ;) FYI, unless you have a very slow connection, it is possible to maintain the minimum ratio at both What and Waffles. Keep in mind that they each have pretty low requirements. For example, you can download up to 30GB of music at What and you only need to keep a .30 ratio. The same downloaded amount at Waffles only requires a .25 ratio. This is very doable, especially if you seed stuff for a long time like they suggest, so stop bitching.
As for the What vs. Waffles topic, I think both are great trackers and are comparable content-wise, but I prefer What's layout, interface (Gazelle) and features. Also, I've noticed lately that stuff often gets upped to What and then takes a day or so to make it up at Waffles. So if I really had to choose one today it would be What.
For me it's simple - they are both great.
Yeah, tracker level is THE most important thing. :frusty:Quote:
Originally Posted by bas1c
On the secont thought, on higher level tracker is a bit harder to accomplish your "get-invite-hit'n'run-get-another-invite" tactic, so, it may be that tracker level IS important in your case.
/fixedQuote:
Originally Posted by Bad-Day
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Originally Posted by Funkin'Well said. Especially with the tagging bullshit. I cannot stand grabbing an album from What/Waffles only to find out the tags are a mess, and I have to go through and re-tag everything myself since the uploader didn't show a little care and do it him/herself before putting it on the tracker.Quote:
Originally Posted by kukushka
This is understandable if you grabbed the album from slsk, a forum, or even Demonoid. But that shouldn't be on trackers that specialize in music. And don't get me wrong, I think W/W are great sites with impressive archives(no matter what others think) and those rare gems. But they're always my last stop for an album.
Agree 100%. And i think the uploader do not care at all because he / she only upload something to build ratio. It's not about to share, it's about ratio.
IMO W/W are great music sites, but for real audiophiles, the lossless trackers are the right places.
Which lossless trackers would be the best?
e**** is best...Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggi
i have to disagree on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by RafaQuote:
Originally Posted by Funkin'
Agree 100%. And i think the uploader do not care at all because he / she only upload something to build ratio. It's not about to share, it's about ratio.
IMO W/W are great music sites, but for real audiophiles, the lossless trackers are the right places.
most of the V0 rips i've downloaded so far on both sites are well-made and the selection is way larger than any lossless tracker.
ok, sometimes, tracks are not tagged, descriptions are empty and you have to check the filelist in order to see the tracklisting but hey, when you find stuffs that are not available in lossless sites (nor anywhere else), you simply can't turn your nose up at lossy formats unless you are an audiophile wanker rather than a melomaniac. for me, the technical aspect is important but it remains secondary: music is all that matters.
Waflle all the way !!! tho last stuff i grabbed got one track with fail CRC :lol:
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Originally Posted by cinephilia
Of course music is all, but i want music with quality, if possible.
If i can grab a proper FLAC rip from lossless tracker, i don't think twice.
If the lossless tracker don't have that album i want, i'll search in W/W, and if i can't find a lossless rip anywhere, i grab a lossy one with pleasure. :)
Don't get me wrong, i love W/W and i'm very proud to be member of both, but i am a FLAC lover and sometimes it is very difficult to content myself with a lossy rip... oh well, maybe it's only me... ;)
both are must have sites...
what was a disappointment for me. despite their size it seems they lack some genres almost completely.
i could get more of (techno, dance) my stuff from every second blog around the corner via rapidshare.
I remember when Waffles and What first started... everyone was saying what.cd was crap and that the 15 year old creator (Noah?) had no experience and blah blah blah. Well, I guess they were wrong.
I like What.cd's collection a little more, but I have an easier time with ratio's on Waffles, because my seeded torrents get alittle more traffic on waffles.
So If I need to download something, I check waffles first, what.cd second.
oh ... What.CD, bummer i can't use it because my whole country IP range is banned [ISRAEL}
Waffles has a nicer atmosphere. What has better selection.
I choose waffles.