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many downloads incomplete - astranews
many of the 1080p movies i download are missing many blocks and require many par files to repair them, some cant even be repaired with the provided par files, sometimes if i re-download that specific rar file ie no 57 58 59, that sometime helps but sometimes fails too.
is this down to astranews, these files were only posted a few weeks ago so not a retention issue.
should i try another news server and whats recommended around $10 a month
:dry:
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Astraweb tends to be a lil finicky. I would try setting up the EU server as your backup, or US if EU is your primary. This fixes 99% of incompletes. I also have a small block acct that picks up the rest.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
lol i said astra news duuh
i had the sever set for the general server so now its the eu one, how do i set up the us one as back up and should i be using the ssl secure server?
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
what software are you using?
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
I'm seeing 100% correlation for US and EU, in other words what's missing on US is also missing on EU. If the post is in that age range, a few weeks old to several months old, it's best to use another provider until Astraweb can fix this mess.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Could it be DMCA takedowns? I know giganews has that issue, maybe Astraweb is having to comply more.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
A few Astraweb users over at NZBMatrix report the same issues. At least one user has contacted Astraweb about the problem and reports that Astraweb tech. support acknowledge that there is a problem and that their working on fixing it.
User=origitat
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I emailed Astraweb tech support and they told me that they were aware of the issues and were trying to address them. Anyone else get info from tech support?
Here is the ticket response I got:
Hi Matt,
We are currently working on these issues and we hope to fix it as soon as possible. At the meantime you may try again or perhaps switching between US and EU servers or working on different ports to see if it helps.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
Thank you and have a nice day!
Regards,
Kylie
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Weird that they suggest switching ports could alleviate that problem.
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http://helpdesk.astraweb.com/index.p...news&newsid=53
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Incompletes & Article Not Available
We are looking into and fixing the issue with article completion for articles at and around the 110-130 day old mark. This issue is unrelated to the
Network Instability issue posted earlier today.
Completion will return gradually as the articles are recovered.
We regret and apologise for this incident, and our engineers are working with urgency to rectify the problem.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Use all 3 servers they give out and spread your connections across all of them equally. I do this in Newsbin Pro and don't have any issues completing articles. Also your AV could screw up things too so make sure your news client has full access.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Same problem as the OP here. I've tried both EU and US servers, and it doesn't change anything, i'm still missing parts while the post appears to be complete.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
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Originally Posted by
sandman_1
Use all 3 servers they give out and spread your connections across all of them equally. I do this in Newsbin Pro and don't have any issues completing articles. Also your AV could screw up things too so make sure your news client has full access.
I DONT KNOW HOW THIS IS DONE IM USING NEWSLEECHER
oops caps off sorreeeee
im using eset security so it sets up everything automatically
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
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I DONT KNOW HOW THIS IS DONE IM USING NEWSLEECHER
You can read can't you? Amazing what you can find going to their website and actually searching it.
Found this in two seconds, http://www.newsleecher.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17974
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• Click on the Manager page tab
• To add a new server, click on the Add button.
Post a link to one of the files you can't get/complete and I will see if I have the same issue with it.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
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Originally Posted by
sandman_1
You can read can't you? Amazing what you can find going to their website and
actually searching it.
Found this in two seconds,
http://www.newsleecher.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17974
Quote:
• Click on the Manager page tab
• To add a new server, click on the Add button.
Post a link to one of the files you can't get/complete and I will see if I have the same issue with it.
sarcastic báwbág i was away searching it, if you have issues helping people then please refrain from doing so:lol:
i had to delete this as it was incomplete but i cant remember what specific files were missing blocks.
http://www.binsearch.info/?b=am.2010...tor%29&max=250
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
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Originally Posted by
mysticbertie
sarcastic báwbág i was away searching it, if you have issues helping people then please refrain from doing so:lol:
I guess it was a bit harsh. However I was able to find the information on their site quite easy. I will try that file at the link you posted and see how it works out.
Noun
bawbag (plural bawbags)
(vulgar, slang, pejorative) scrotum.
Hmm, how colorful.
ok downloaded it. It had parts missing in the rars and even pars but Newsbin Pro was able to repair it. Binsearch said all parts available so definitely parts missing on Astra's servers.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
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Originally Posted by
sandman_1
Quote:
Originally Posted by
mysticbertie
sarcastic báwbág i was away searching it, if you have issues helping people then please refrain from doing so:lol:
I guess it was a bit harsh. However I was able to find the information on their site quite easy. I will try that file at the link you posted and see how it works out.
Noun
bawbag (plural bawbags)
(vulgar, slang, pejorative) scrotum.
Hmm, how colorful.
ok downloaded it. It had parts missing in the rars and even pars but Newsbin Pro was able to repair it. Binsearch said all parts available so definitely parts missing on Astra's servers.
my you can be helpful when you try lol :P
the term bawbag is used widely in these parts, appropiate when someone is harsh :naughty:
thanks for checking, just confirms the problem lies with astraweb, i have added the servers eu ist us 2nd and general 3rd, i will monitor it over the coming week and see if its any better. :yup:
oh and thanks;)
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
For specifics, try this:
http://filesharingtalk.com/nzbs/tv/x...TV-x264-ORENJI
or this:
http://filesharingtalk.com/nzbs/tv/w...DD5.1-H.264-TB
It definitely seems related to time period
This is the first time I've ever been unable to grab something using Astraweb
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Did a little checking, as far as one can 'out on the edges' so to speak.
First, the upload was 100%, as it was to Astraweb/eu, and the propagation was 100% out to the peers. Okay, the non-Astra peers, as both the Astra/EU and US are missing more that a fair enough parts to deep six the thing, even though the Pars should have been acceptable at ~10% as well.
But I did notice that the posting was to two newsgroups (a.b.tv, a.b.hdtv), and the posting was via some program called 'newsmangler 0.02', which did raise some eyebrows a bit, particularly as the '.02' hasn't been worked on since (from what I can find out) some 10+ months ago.
But then again, I don't trust anything but JBinup anymore. And that only as far as checking the outgoing headers from Astraweb...!
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
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Originally Posted by
Beck38
Did a little checking, as far as one can 'out on the edges' so to speak.
First, the upload was 100%, as it was to Astraweb/eu, and the propagation was 100% out to the peers. Okay, the non-Astra peers, as both the Astra/EU and US are missing more that a fair enough parts to deep six the thing, even though the Pars should have been acceptable at ~10% as well.
But I did notice that the posting was to two newsgroups (a.b.tv, a.b.hdtv), and the posting was via some program called 'newsmangler 0.02', which did raise some eyebrows a bit, particularly as the '.02' hasn't been worked on since (from what I can find out) some 10+ months ago.
But then again, I don't trust anything but JBinup anymore. And that only as far as checking the outgoing headers from Astraweb...!
Did you see the ones I mentioned, the collections being hosted here?
I remember saying I was happy with jbinup, but everything I've posted since I started using it always ends up missing some parts and the header check never catches it. I've tried reposting, but then everything gets kinda funked up. So jbinup has left me a bit wanting. I've just stopped posting altogether cause I've had it with incomplete uploads and slow upload and connection dropping. I had already uninstalled CPP and don't feel like setting it up again, so I'm just kinda stuck.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Yes, that's what I did the checking on, those two files you listed.
I've had next to zero problems with JBinup over the past 10+ months, over 4.2TB transferred through Astraweb/US, with only minor wobbles (fairly quickly auto-fixed), with about as zero problems with propagation (a few weeks back Giganews was the most major off-track problems I've seen all year, and it 'eventually' fixed itself over about a week).
The posting to two newsgroups is what really caught my eye, doing so has really not been necessary for close to ten years now, since the server plants no longer allocate space by newsgroup.
If JBinup is set up to check the server you're posting to (it can be set up to check propagation to another server), and reports things are 100% but upon checking headers you find either the posting server or the propagation is skipping (random parts unaccounted for) or fading (huge chunks of parts over a fair amount of time), then something is going off the tracks somewhere at the posting server, since it has reported to JBinup that things are '100%'.
I'd be looking for a different server. Maybe I just lucked out with Astraweb/US. 'Internet hop wise' it's just very close to me (although some 500+ miles away), all the other server plants in the US are on the opposite (east) coast and are 10-15 hops (and large delays at 3000+ miles) away.
But while posting I watch these things like a hawk... Then again, it's more of an 'industrial process' to me and not an occasional thing. Like I said, I'd be looking for another posting server (knock on wood that Astra?US keeping running good!)
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
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Originally Posted by
Beck38
But while posting I watch these things like a hawk... Then again, it's more of an 'industrial process' to me and not an occasional thing. Like I said, I'd be looking for another posting server (knock on wood that Astra?US keeping running good!)
Yeah I've tried all 3 AW variants, with no resounding success. I also can't really watch them that closely, as they can take up to 10 hours to finish 1 post. I wish I could FTP these things somewhere (with better upload) that will then get posted to usenet. There's no equivalent to a seedbox (temporary) on usenet.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
It takes me upwards of 3 days to post a 'collection'... 10 hours would be a breeze. Following the posing via a standard newsreader is easy, double-checking via Binsearch and others I can do from a smart(er) phone that has good web access.
If you have a hosting company near to you (I have one some 10 miles distant) you can set up a remote controlled server that has access to super-fast internet at very low rates (>$10/month; but you have to be really serious to do that. I'm still thinking about fiber, which is in my area, but I'd have to move and right now it isn't worth it.
Meanwhile, as long as things seem to be working okay, I guess I'm just lucky.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
i wish i could help with ur problem.. but once i switched from camel powerpost to jbinup i havent had problems while uploading stuff via AW.
I set checking to 5 min interval.
Uploaded about 400Gb in the last 30 days. All seem to be OK.
Also you should take into account that those index sites they basically download headers, then delete them after a certain period of time has passed
When AW had problems with headers most of my uploads were shown as incomplete on almost all index sites that have a header feed from AW. yet the files were there complete. supersearch still shows some of my uplaods incomplete when in reality theya re all there.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Well mine have all shown to be par2 repairable, but it's just kind of annoying that they all have to be repaired. How many connections are each of you using in jbinup?
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
i set 20 connections. For some reason i need much more connections to achieve normal speed when uploading unlike when downloading
SP i really wish someone made alternative to jbinup not using Java.. i dont like java software for various reasons
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Wow, maybe I should use more, I limited mine to 2 to reduce number of errors
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
I did a whole lotta testing at first... But found that I easily swamped Astraweb/US at 8 connections with my current pipe (5Mb/s). I could probably cut that down to 4 but found that things ran 'smoother' at 8 (to my eyes). But then again, I use a VPN so that enters the 'mix' as well, and the VPN/router and circuit, with my ISP throughput, seems to find that 'sweet' point at that 8.
Unless and until I get a better 'pipe', then I'll have to look at some h/w upgrades (VPN router needs to get faster), and that is all bucks, and since the fiber folks have called a halt to any further expansion toward my current location (2-3 miles down the road), it'll be another year at least before that (and unless the cableco drops their rates or ramps up their speeds, which may happen according to DSLReports).
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
This thread doesn't surprise me.
Lately i've had lots of incomplete files (most times too much for repair) in a.b.hdtv.french with french 720p/1080p bluray rips between 100 and 300 days.
Thought it was dmca-like demands at first but several days later tried to download again and it was much better.
Still have some issues with some posts from around 110 days but i guess i'll ty again later. Just glad to see it's a technical issue and not compliance with some BS organization.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
I looked back at my records, and despite posting virtually every hour/day during that time frame, saw absolutely nothing wrong at the time.
In a couple hours I'll have a window to d/l a couple things that I posted, and know that they were 100% both on Astra and on the other servers I monitor. If they are loosing things on their drive plant, and both plants at the same time. then there's real questions. I already verified that some things that were posted to Astra (not by me), are missing huge chunks, but were propagated just fine out to other servers, which is weird to begin with.
Well, this didn't take long, but...
Okay, VERY interesting.... A Posting I know to be 100% on both the US and EU server, during the period we are talking about (around the first week of April, 2011), are both semi-hosed.
What is particularly weird, is that both files have errors is pretty much EXACTLY the same spots. Now, since I know that both were 100% when posted, the possibility that both server plants, separated by some 8000 miles, would go off the rails in pretty much the same way.... means a couple of things (maybe).
Astraweb could be doing what I suggested, cross-checking the two plants against each other at whatever intervals. And one of those plants in experiencing drive errors, and the cross-checking routine isn't checking the files (par or whatever) before 'updating' the other plant. So error's 'proliferate', which is exactly what one DOESN'T want happening. The possibility that both plants would suffer pretty much the same disc error's, affecting the same files, is astronomical.
Either that, or someone they are peering with is overwriting GOOD files with BAD, and their s/w is allowing that to happen (VERY BAD). I'll bet that's what happened, and if they don't fix their s/w, it'll happen again. Or it already has, except it's a small error or folks simply haven't noticed it yet.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Well it's not getting any better is it? Nigh on a week and still I can barely download anything over 100 days old.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Not that I can see. The 'barrier' at the top (most recent) end is around 83 Days (9 Apr 11), things newer than that are okay (as far as I can tell).
From 83 days to around 300 (2 Sept 10), pretty much hosed. The missing parts do die off in a slow curve, going from the really bad in this April to just a bit towards that 300 day mark. Since I just completed that testing, I don't know if the plant is 'improving' at all, will have to wait and re-do things a bit in the days to come.
Of all that I can accurately test beyond the 300 days looks okay, but like I said there is a 'curve' of missing parts from this April going back, and by the time one gets to around 200 or so it's pretty minimal, IF the poster put up a decent amount of pars. But, I tested my own postings, which I know were as 100% as possible (JBinUp and header tests on multiple servers both Astra and Giga) when posted. Like I said, if it was worse I don't know, we'll see in a few days if things start improving, and from which 'end' (newest or oldest).
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
I never came across this problem at all. Maybe because I had been using Binload for everything 400 days and less (and getting 100% completion) and saving my AW block for the older posts - which only had an occasional incomplete.
The last time users were reporting that Astraweb had a serious completion problem was around Christmas 2009. (I was too busy to investigate it then, and now this one pops up at another major (US) holiday) Judging from the last meltdown and its eventual resolution, I'm guessing that it might take AW a few weeks to back-fill all the missing parts, we shall see.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
That last 'major' meltdown I remember well, and to my mind they really didn't recover completely from that; I believe it was related to some plant upgrades that went awry. Others have also commentated elsewhere that they see skips and such on 'known good at one time' postings going back 250+ days, so one can hope that they don't simply fix the 'minimum' range and leave it at that, which has been the result in the past.
Again, I find it of interest that both servers would go off the tracks in virtually identical ways; one hopes that that is at the top of their priority as to investigation.
In doing some re-tests today, no difference in number/severity of skips, in the 'hit zone' of 100 days; the 'roll-off' seems to have changed, but it's within the 'margin of error', no real change.
Doesn't look like any work is being done.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
4 JUL Report - No changes, no fills, no corrections noted
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
you should send them email.They should be bombarded with emails of the same type: FIX UR SHITE ASAP FFS! :D
of course all the necessary data to back up this statement(you have problems, guys) should be there as well
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
They have been, and have a 'note' (wasn't this previously listed?) up saying they are 'working on it'.
http://helpdesk.astraweb.com/index.p...news&newsid=53
"Incompletes & Article Not Available
Posted By: Steve On: 26 Jun 2011 5:17 PM
Details Incompletes & Article Not Available
We are looking into and fixing the issue with article completion for articles at and around the 110-130 day old mark. This issue is unrelated to the Network Instability issue posted earlier today.
Completion will return gradually as the articles are recovered.
We regret and apologise for this incident, and our engineers are working with urgency to rectify the problem."
I'll continue to check known original 'completes' at that 100 day mark, ones further back around 250 days, and those around 75 days ('gap creep') and for both any additional gaps or any 're-fills', if any. So far, none noted.
As both plants have pretty much the exact same gaps, they can't use one to 'cure' the other, and that being said, the core of the problems (I think) is one of their peers. Identifying which one, then fixing the actual data, is going to be a big project.
Unless this happened really fast, all at once, means that their watchfulness was a bit too minimal (I ran a usenet server plant for close to three years in the late 90's).
Good luck.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
http://forums.newsbin.com/viewtopic....=28479#p175011
by stevef
Official Astraweb Representative
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The wheels are in motion. We had some recovery early last week, then a few days of non-recovery later last week as replacement hardware was ordered. The long weekend doesn't help.
We expect the hardware and other things to be in place in a few days, and the recovery will continue then. I'm not intimate with the recovery process, but I'll post more if and when I get more details.
The post it near the bottom of the page.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
That's interesting that they are going down the h/w failure route, but most of the plants these days are built using some pretty specialized h/w. I did have some (somewhere) some interesting pictures of some SATA Rack-Bays and such...
So, I guess I'll wait until the end of the week (TH/Fri) before running any more tests.
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
Has anyone figured out a formula to discovering what age of articles are affected? Is it between a certain timescale or *all* articles of a certain age?
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Re: many downloads incomplete - astranews
by stevef
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We are well aware of the problems and we are fixing it. The estimate for the window of incompletes may have been a little off, but it was an estimate. What is important is that we are addressing the incompletes, regardless of whether it is 1 day or 100 day window.
Although the barrage of complaints is well deserved, it does not help to speed up the recovery.
I would disagree with stevef. IDT he has heard of the term, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease." I think if anything, the more complaints, the faster they are going to fix it. If they start pissing off tons of their customers where they might jump ship, you bet that will light a fire under their ass to fix the problem quickly. And I think Quade needs to sthu sometimes. If they are advertising a certain percent completion and people aren't getting it, then they have every right to complain.