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TRUMP’S “HORRIFYING” ANSWER JUST COST HIM. BIGLY.
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TRUMP’S “HORRIFYING” ANSWER JUST COST HIM. BIGLY.
The truly disturbing thing is not Trump's comment but that 39% of those polled believe he won the debate.
Disagreeing with, even hating Clinton I understand but a complete avoidance of the truth of what one has just witnessed is a form of delusion so profound that it borders on fanaticism.
I cannot bring myself to vote for either.
Is there an option where I can imagine the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man?
Ray thought that wouldn't be so bad, and look how that turned outQuote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
There are very few career politicians that I like, but Hillary is not among them. There's a big list of those I despise, but Hillary is not among them either. She instead falls into the big pool of politicians to whom I'm apathetic.
In that large pool of inert, career politicians are people who are largely motivated by elevating their status, sating their egos, and what remains of their initial intent of serving the public. Hillary doesn't really stand out from the rest of them. The hatred toward her specifically is sort of baffling.
Pit her against an inept, nauseating moron of a clown lacking the Magoo gene for a position of power, and it should be apparent that electing the first female president of the US is preferable to the only alternative.
I am not voting only because I misplaced my voter ID card (probably left it in the car I sold) and it seems like it'll be a pain to submit an absentee ballot.
It didn't cost him anything. After last nights debate is the first time since the first debate that he's actually closed in the polls by any measurable number. The only real audible thing I could hear was a laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
That is UN-AMERICAN!! :noes:Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Well, when they've made up their mind who they're going to vote for, of course they're going to say he won. Another portion of people probably just cant see how someone as dull and stiff as a statue that deflects all night could have won either.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Just so i am on the record here, and a Canadian citizen...Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
No COMMENT.
Then you are one of the fanatical idiots that Idol was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizWell, when they've made up their mind who they're going to vote for, of course they're going to say he won.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
How about a sports analogy. It involves a tie, mind, so suspend disbelief for a moment.
You're a big fan of red sports team, they're playing blue sports team - their hated rivals.
You're at the match and red sports team don't even leave their own half, the hated blue sports team have 82% of possession, 40 shots at goal, 22 of which are on target. A combination of blind luck and referee ineptitude mean that the game finishes scoreless. There is no tangible winner.
You're on the bus on the way home and an acquaintance of yours, who is a fan of green sports team, looks up from his phone and he sees you wearing your red sports team shirt. He says; '0-0, damn. Who had the better of the game?'
Do you answer red or blue?
Bear in mind that green team sports fan will see the highlights later on TV, lying would just make you look like a fanatical idiot.
I'm a big fan of the United Manchester sports team.
I was at the game on Monday when we heroically didn't lose against the racist Liver Pool sports team.
Though much adversity from the overly compensating reverse-biased Altrincham umpire and cheating from the cheating Liver sports team participants, we stoically allowed the game to finish 0-0 despite being the morally and technically superior sports team.
I think we can all learn something from that.
You make a grand effort to sincerely communicate your point through a football analogy, manker, but I'm going to call into question the entire underlying tone of this topic.
Debates are not sporting events, so there will never be a tangible win or loss. Debates result in revelations, persuasions, consequences, etc., and establishing a winner undermines the purpose, which is to explore the minds of the debaters or set topics, generally speaking.
Now that I've gotten that out of the way, there is really no point in having Clinton debate Trump. Both of them are well known to the public that would even bother watching it. Trump has been putting out his buffoonery on an almost daily basis since he started his campaign, which is covered extensively by media sources, and Clinton has long been under public scrutiny. There isn't really anything new to discover in the debate format. At best, it's free publicity for both candidates as we approach the election.
That being said, this is a fucking embarrassing election, and I need to start pretending I'm Canadian again.
Yes, that's exactly it. Tangible wins are impossible, you can't win an election during a debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
However, politics is all about the perception of the electorate, and therefore about these intangible wins and losses. Eating a sausage sandwich in a certain type of restaurant could be a net 'win' for one politician, and a horrendous loss for another. It is intriguing.
It's inevitable that people will speculate who 'won' when something as high-profile as these televised debates occur.
It would take a particularly snot-nosed observer to look down upon people for doing so.
That said, the point remains that if you opine that your team had the better of events in a situation like I describe above [or, more subjectively, in the context of the recent debate], then you're a fanatical simpleton.
What i can't understand Macky, and lets forget all the dirty politics on both candidates that one or the other is going to be the next president. We all know all the promises politicians give, and most of the time it is the same shit, and you really hope some of the bigger things they promise do happen, and again that helps...Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
But really the thing i don't understand, is Trump only has Trump, but watching Clinton and seeing some of her policies have Sanders written all over it, and i really think Sanders will hold her to the important ones to make sure they will be implemented, and behind closed doors Sanders will be put/offered a position on her party wherever he wants.
I watched all the debates and you can see her positions really move towards Sanders (not all of course)..
Trust or no trust, Bernie is out there supporting Clinton, I would assume Sanders supporters watched the debates as well.
What is the problem, i can't figure out?? If you are a Sanders supporter and you have common sense, how can you not support her, when Trump doesn't even look like he has tried to motivate Sanders revolution? (Other than a few comments in the debates from Trump saying Bernie didn't think Clinton wasn't fit to run)...
Even saying this in a joking manor, We now have a Liberal government here and it is still the same shit different day!! I mean i think Trudeau really won on promising to Legalize Marijuana, and the voter turnout was crazy!, and that is not really close to being implemented.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
And the other scary thing in the US, lets see if the Republicans can hold the senate, or did Trump fuck all that up??
Incidentally, that's where I pick up half of my one linersQuote:
Originally Posted by shaina
I'm only snot-nosed when I don't have a booger graveyard nearby. I prefer it to be on my right, and a small bin is ideal.Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerYes, that's exactly it. Tangible wins are impossible, you can't win an election during a debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
However, politics is all about the perception of the electorate, and therefore about these intangible wins and losses. Eating a sausage sandwich in a certain type of restaurant could be a net 'win' for one politician, and a horrendous loss for another. It is intriguing.
It's inevitable that people will speculate who 'won' when something as high-profile as these televised debates occur.
It would take a particularly snot-nosed observer to look down upon people for doing so.
That said, the point remains that if you opine that your team had the better of events in a situation like I describe above [or, more subjectively, in the context of the recent debate], then you're a fanatical simpleton.
See.
I've got you hyphenating, now.
Is that you Idol :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmackyIncidentally, that's where I pick up half of my one linersQuote:
Originally Posted by shaina
You know what i was saying :yup: correction manner
Just kidding Idol
Edit:
Just being reported... Philippines is distancing from the US, favoring China and Russia, good job Trump:noes:
I just found this....
Trump has written a lot of books about business – they all seem to end at Chapter 11.Go figure. :lol:
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Originally Posted by mjmacky
You only think that way because you're an effete, bourgeoisie, liberal intellectual. Everything is a fight and every day is a test.
See that's the problem with the World, that there aren't more men of action like Superfly, G.I. Joe and the guy from the Commando like when he was played in the movie by Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Do you think any of them would lose a debate? No they'd probably hack off their opponents head with a large knife and drink their blood from the skull while quipping something like "Looks like my worthy opponent has decided to concede the point, motherfuckers". Fag.
Shouldn't you be in a synagogue or something? Those candelabras don't just light themselves you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by shainaIs that you Idol :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
You know what i was saying :yup: correction manner
Just kidding Idol
Edit:
Just being reported... Philippines is distancing from the US, favoring China and Russia, good job Trump:noes:
I didn't feel like going today (like i ever go really:whistling), but I was thinking of inviting you to my synagogue, but i figure you go to one closer:unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
And the women usually light the shabbos candles(funny guy), but i know you alreadyknewgoogled that.
You caught me. You're really getting good at this. I see that in the future I will have to up my game.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
PS They light Tony Shalhoub on fire??????? I know he's Lebanese but that still seems a bit harsh.
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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787You caught me. You're really getting good at this. I see that in the future I will have to up my game.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
PS They light Tony Shalhoub on fire??????? I know he's Lebanese but that still seems a bit harsh.
I don't know who set him on fire, that is a tragedy, but I herd he is now a Practicing Born Again Jehovah Witness:idunno:
This got a serious LOL from me. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
Holy Shit your alive, thank G-D. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by megabytemeThis got a serious LOL from me. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
There was a few zingers on CNN and Fox News web sites, really funny stuff.
You know your campaign is in trouble when even your own propaganda machine turns on you...Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
I learned to laugh again, through the tears of a great sorrow granted, but I did learn to laugh again.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Fox News is in luv with Wikileaks(and the Fraud Peter Schweizer), and they put a lot of validity in them(actually funny to watch), most of them are horseshit. The truth being, i don't really think Trump has any idea how to run a country, let alone deal with Foreign Policies, even if you throw out all of the scandalous shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaballeroYou know your campaign is in trouble when even your own propaganda machine turns on you...Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
You look at all the Middle East and RT News outlets(Russian interest), they are not happy Trump is loosing, those are the main places i can see, but not all the Anchors at Fox News like Trump, just the ones that wear the Tin Foil Hats, plus i don't think they like any Democrats period..
And what is really funny is only once in all the debates Israel, and it was mentioned once in passing by Trump, but behind closed doors where really all the negotiation are done, i think both parties are on the phone talking:D
You have 17 days left before the US election, could all the polling be wrong and really Trump is winning? Who the heck knows.
It will be interesting Caballero, and if you live in the US, you should do your duty and vote ;)
I've always been hyphenating, but I'm not going to let that dissuade me from giving you grief about it. Also, callbacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
How will Fox "news" ever be a respected news source if even their opinions are unreliable? There were times when they'd hiss every time Wikileaks came into view.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
Answer: They aren't trying to be a legitimate news source. Everyone still working there has to know they peddle misinformation to those ignorant enough to swallow it.
How am I one of the fanatical idiots that Idol referred to? I said "they" not "I". I don't believe anyone "won" any of the three Presidential debates. They both deflected questions, missed opportunities to nail down their opponent, and failed to look even moderately appealing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerThen you are one of the fanatical idiots that Idol was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
How about a sports analogy. It involves a tie, mind, so suspend disbelief for a moment.
You're a big fan of red sports team, they're playing blue sports team - their hated rivals.
You're at the match and red sports team don't even leave their own half, the hated blue sports team have 82% of possession, 40 shots at goal, 22 of which are on target. A combination of blind luck and referee ineptitude mean that the game finishes scoreless. There is no tangible winner.
You're on the bus on the way home and an acquaintance of yours, who is a fan of green sports team, looks up from his phone and he sees you wearing your red sports team shirt. He says; '0-0, damn. Who had the better of the game?'
Do you answer red or blue?
Bear in mind that green team sports fan will see the highlights later on TV, lying would just make you look like a fanatical idiot.
Let's have a debate about it. I'll serve as the moderator and first proposition speaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
skiz, it is said that you're a fanatical idiot. If we concede that the only two candidates with a chance to emerge with a victory in the general election are Clinton and Trump, explain why you touch yourself whenever you think about the possibility of Hillary Clinton losing the election.
I didn't think you were one of the people polled. However, your post empathised with the fanatics, did it not, so I lumped you in with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizHow am I one of the fanatical idiots that Idol referred to? I said "they" not "I". I don't believe anyone "won" any of the three Presidential debates. They both deflected questions, missed opportunities to nail down their opponent, and failed to look even moderately appealing.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
You said that if they've made up their mind who to vote for, of course they'll say he won.
Like as if there is no other possible action these Trump fans could take apart from saying he won the debate when asked.
My post was demonstrating how that is an idiotic position to take.
It seems to have done a good job of this, too, as you seem to be at pains to distance yourself from this behaviour.
Am I to take it, therefore, that there's a chance you are going to vote for Hillary, or were you just talking pish in the first instance.
No can do. I've just brought empathy into it and I only taught you what that word means a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmackyLet's have a debate about it. I'll serve as the moderator and first proposition speaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
You're just too inexperienced.
And the Jeopardy question is "What might a gay intellectual use as a come-on line?"Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
:lol:
I guess it could have been taken either way, but my comment was more a dig at voter ignorance/apathy/bias. The people who have already made up their minds about which candidate they're voting for are going to see the debate with their own red or blue goggles on and it's going to dictate who they think won the debate. That's all I meant by the "of course" comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerI didn't think you were one of the people polled. However, your post empathised with the fanatics, did it not, so I lumped you in with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
You said that if they've made up their mind who to vote for, of course they'll say he won.
Like as if there is no other possible action these Trump fans could take apart from saying he won the debate when asked.
My post was demonstrating how that is an idiotic position to take.
It seems to have done a good job of this, too, as you seem to be at pains to distance yourself from this behaviour.
Am I to take it, therefore, that there's a chance you are going to vote for Hillary, or were you just talking pish in the first instance.
And no. No chance of voting for Hillary. But no chance of voting for Trump either. I don't vote by R's and D's like unfortunately most people do. Locally, state, and nationally, my candidate is usually the one that receives maybe 5% of the vote. My candidate never wins. I guess I'm weird in that I like less war, less spending, fewer entitlement programs, and more personal freedoms.