Mobo

as u may already noe i am looking for a new mobo and video card...

so i went to the local store near my house and he showed me this ASUS mobo for 150$ but it had an intergrated 9200 vid so instead of me spending 99$ on mobo and 99$ on vid mayb i cud buy this.... do u think its a good idea?

model and specs:

ASUS P4R800-VM

CPU Socket 478 for Intel Pentium 4/ Celeron
On-die 512KB/256KB L2 Cache with full speed
Intel Hyper-Threading Technology ready
New power design supports Intel next generation CPU
Chipset ATI RADEON 9100 IGP
ATI IXP200
Front Side Bus 800/533/400 MHz
Memory 4 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets support max. 4GB
PC3200/2700/PC2100/1600 non-ECC DDR SDRAM memory
(PC3200 up to 2GB with 1 DIMM module each channel)
Dual Channel Memory Architecture
Expansion Slots 1 x AGP8X (1.5V only)
3 x PCI
VGA - Integrated ATI RADEON 9200-based 2D/3D graphics engine
- Max. 128 MB of main memory configurable as display memory
- Integrated TV encoder and supports separately purchase TV out (AV/S) card
Storage 2 x UltraDMA 100/66
Audio ADI AD1888 SoundMAX 6-channel CODEC
S/PDIF out interface
LAN Integrated 3COM 10/100 Mbps LAN controller + Realtek PHY
USB 2.0 6 x Integrated USB2.0 ports
Special Features Power Loss Restart
Support S/PDIF out interface
ASUS MyLogo2
ASUS CrashFree BIOS 2
ASUS Q-Fan technology
ASUS EZ Flash
Back Panel I/O Ports 1 x Parallel
1 x PS/2 Keyboard
1 x PS/2 Mouse
1 x VGA
1 x Audio I/O
1 x S/PDIF output
1 x RJ45
4 x USB 2.0/1.1
Internal I/O Connectors - 1 x USB 2.0 connector supports additional 2 USB 2.0 ports
- CPU / Chassis FAN connectors
- 20-pin ATX Power connector
- CD / AUX audio in
- TV-out connector
- COM connector
- Front panel audio connector
BIOS Feature 4 Mb Flash ROM, AMI BIOS, PnP, DMI2.0, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 2.3, ACPI, ASUS EZ Flash, ASUS MyLogo2
Industry Standard PCI 2.2, USB 2.0
Manageability WfM 2.0,DMI 2.0,WOL by PME
Support CD Drivers
ASUS PC Probe
Trend Micro PC-cillin 2002 anti-virus software (OEM version)
ASUS LiveUpdate Utility
Accessories User's manual
UltraDMA cable
FDD cable
COM cable
I/O shield
Form Factor microATX Form Factor, 9.6"x 9.6"(24.5cm x 24.5cm)

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/sock...4r800-vm_l.jpg

links:
http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=P4R800-VM&langs=09

if i want to buy this i will but it from here link because it cheaper (119$)

yes i noe tht intergrated vid uses memory (shared) so i am gona buy mayb 1gig of memory or jus 512ddr

i noe tht 9200 is not tht good of a card but if i hav lots of good memory wont it run faster and better and dunt forget it also comes with a 8x agpslot :D


****ALL PRICES ARE CDN**** ;)

also.. does it support overclocking?
is it a good mobo?

btw i hav been researching for the past hour or so...

Yes Asus is awesome. I just got an asus board about 6 hours ago. It has withstanded the Heatsink being droped on it so far.. ;)

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Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 06:19
Yes Asus is awesome. I just got an asus board about 6 hours ago.  It has withstanded the Heatsink being droped on it so far.. ;)

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LOL!!!!!!!!!


omg guess wat?????!!!!
i jus went to another local stores website and saw the mobo for 110$$$!!!!!!!!!
YAY!!!!!!!!!

And the store is only a 5min WALK!!!!!!!!!! :D

http://canadacomputers.com/motherboards.html#int

look for the asus p4r...

thnk u GOD! hav a JOLLY CHRISTMAS

but i still need reviews from u guys if u think its bad i wont buy it ;)

Asus makes descent boards, so I'm sure your mobo is alright.

Also, it's much better to have seperate video and mobo, but unlike many here, I beleive, intergrated video is good. and if your not doing any high end gaming, just go with intergrated video, it's all you will ever need.

So I say go for it, if you want to upgrade later when you have more money you can buy a top of the line vid card then.

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Originally posted by bob_the_alien@25 December 2003 - 06:32
Asus makes descent boards, so I'm sure your mobo is alright.

Also, it's much better to have seperate video and mobo, but unlike many here, I beleive, intergrated video is good. and if your not doing any high end gaming, just go with intergrated video, it's all you will ever need.

So I say go for it, if you want to upgrade later when you have more money you can buy a top of the line vid card then.

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thts one of the problems i do play high end games... NFS underground...

but wud it be better than a fx5200?
(with 512ddr on the mobo)

wt about overclocking?

more pix

http://images10.newegg.com/productim...131-150-04.JPG
http://images10.newegg.com/productim...131-150-03.JPG
http://images10.newegg.com/productim...131-150-02.JPG
http://images10.newegg.com/productim...131-150-01.JPG

I dont know a TON about Intel mobos because Im AMD but THIS board looks goooood to me. Only $110 and has dual channel and other good features.

DONT LISTEN TO BOB DO NOT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS! Your paying a bunch of money for something you cant even use!!!!!!!!!! Look at the one I showed you or simmilar ones.

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Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 06:48
I dont know a TON about Intel mobos because Im AMD but THIS board looks goooood to me.  Only $110 and has dual channel and other good features.

DONT LISTEN TO BOB DO NOT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS!  Your paying a bunch of money for something you cant even use!!!!!!!!!! Look at the one I showed you or simmilar ones.

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now all i gotta do is ask my dad and dunt worry about tht cuz my dad will be like SAVING MONEY??? "count me in" LOL! so ill get the mobo on 26th sinse the store is closed tomo and will prolly buy 512ddr memory from the boxing day flyer which will come in tomo lol its 4 mins away from tomo 11:56pm dec24 lol i might see santa :o lol

anyone wana add something plz do so :D

btw the memory is prolly gona be 50$ kingston (BOXING DAY RULES) (im jus guessin...) but im prolly right :D

do u think it supports overclocking?
currently i hav a p41.9 ghz i will overclok it to 2.4 or 2.2 if it supports ocing ;)

Make sure that the Ram has a pretty high speed rating. Like PC3200 or higher. You can prob get it up to around 2.2. Good luck with your new mobo. Im having great luck with mine.

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Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 07:06
Make sure that the Ram has a pretty high speed rating. Like PC3200 or higher. You can prob get it up to around 2.2. Good luck with your new mobo. Im having great luck with mine.

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yea ill tell u about the ram wen the flyers come in ;)

k im sleepy tired gona go to sleep.....
good night and merry christmas
tlk to ya'll tomo lol

ezzzz

My new Intel mobo should be in Friday. + me new rams's

Tight I just got an Asus mobo, 2500XP, and AWESOME mushkin ram($140)today...im so proud of em lolol

just remember....no matter what you get, it'll suck 18 months from now.
:P

This board is a little outdated already. No serial ATA ? Only 3 pci slots?

For that price you could do better. I paid $89 cad for my kids MB and it's pretty comparable to that one. He was on a very small budget though, first stage of build up with the expectation of replacing the board within a year.

Are you prepared to do that?

If not, keep looking.

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Originally posted by balamm@25 December 2003 - 11:46
This board is a little outdated already. No serial ATA ? Only 3 pci slots?

For that price you could do better. I paid $89 cad for my kids MB and it's pretty comparable to that one. He was on a very small budget though, first stage of build up with the expectation of replacing the board within a year.

Are you prepared to do that?

If not, keep looking.

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im not really worried about the pci slots i dont use any of em....i might put in my extra NIC but its already built in....

wts SERIAL ATA?
is tht the special slot for MODEMS? :blink:

any mobo right now is better than mine!
I hav a PC-CHIPS! :(

if u can find me a beter mobo here for a good price... ill see.. i might change my mind....

(im on a low budget...)

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Originally posted by jaigandhi5@25 December 2003 - 11:45
wts SERIAL ATA?
is tht the special slot for MODEMS? :blink:

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actually its a fancy new plug for hard drives, don't bother with it if you're on a tight budget

k the flyers dint come in but futureshop put it on their website :)

so right i was thinknin of BUYING AZEN 184-PIN 512ddr memory for 80$

spec:

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Increase your system speed and performance with AZENRAM memory. Easy to Install and 100% compatible, AZENRAM DDR DIMMS are your best buy for speed, quality and performance. This 512Mb, 184 pin, gold-leaded DIMM is ideal for your DDR-based computer and is backed by a LIFETIME warranty. If you wish to experience faster Internet, faster printing and increased system performance, you can count on AZENRAM to deliver the performance you need.

WebID: 10016278
Mfr. Part Number: DDR0130
Capacity  512 MB
Configuration  184-Pin
Notebook or Desktop Memory  Desktop
PC or Mac Memory  PC
Speed  266 MHz
Type  DDR

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IF i want to buy a seperate mobo without vid....
im gona but this..

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/...r/10030704.gif

XFX GeForce FX5200 128MB DDR Video Card

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WebID: 10030704
Mfr. Part Number: XFT34KNAF7
API Support  DirectX, OpenGL
Card Type  2D/3D
Clock Speed of Video Memory  350 MHz
DVD Acceleration  Yes
Fill Rate  1 Billion Texels
Included In Box  Drivers, Cables, Manual
Included Software  Drivers, Multimedia
Interface  AGP
Maximum 2D Resolution (At 32-Bit Colour)  2480 x 1536
Maximum 3D Resolution (At 32-Bit Colour)  2480 x 1536
Number of Polygons Per Second  Not Rated
Operating System Compatibility  Win95/98/Me/2000/XP
Processor Type  GeForce FX5200
Remote Control  No
S-Video Output  Yes
System Requirements  PC w/AGP Slot
TV Out  Yes
TV Tuner (Yes/No)  No
Video Compression  No
Video Memory  128MB
Warranty  1 Year Parts & Labour



More Information
FEATURES:



CineFX Engine: Powers cinematic effects beyond imagination. With advanced vertex and pixel shader capabilities, stunning and complex special effects are possible. In addition, increased horsepower delivers faster and smoother gameplay.

AGP 8X: Provides double the bandwidth of AGP 4X—2.1GB/sec. vs. 1.1BG/sec. AGP 8X enables more complex models and detailed textures, creating richer and more lifelike environments. Uninterrupted data flow allows for smoother video streaming and faster, more seamless gameplay.

nView Multi-display Technology: The nView hardware and software technology combination delivers maximum flexibility for multi-display options, and provides unprecedented end-user control of the desktop experience. NVIDIA GPUs are enabled to support multi-displays, but graphics cards vary.

Digital Vibrance Control (DVC): Allows the user to adjust color controls digitally to compensate for the lighting conditions of their workspace, in order to achieve accurate, bright colors in all conditions.

Unified Driver Architecture (UDA): Guarantees forward and backward compatibility with software drivers. Simplifies upgrading to a new NVIDIA product because all NVIDIA products work with the same driver software.

Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Optimizations and Support: Ensures the best performance and application compatibility for all DirectX 9 applications.

OpenGL® 1.4 Optimizations and Support: Ensures the best performance and application compatibility for all OpenGL applications.

Integrated TV Encoder: Provides best-of-class TV-out functionality for resolutions up to 1024x768.

Integrated Full Hardware MPEG-2 Decoder: Delivers full-frame, full-screen MPEG-2 video on your desktop.

New 64-phase Video Scaler: Highest quality for scaling DVD and other video to full-screen HDTV resolutions.

DVI Support: Able to drive the industry's largest and highest resolution flat-panel displays with up to 1600x1200 resolution.

350MHz RAMDACs: Supports QXGA displays with ergonomic refresh rates.

Architected for Cg: Ensures that the newest, cutting-edge special effects in applications will run flawlessly. Speeds up content creation so game developers can get their new games out to PC users faster than ever before.

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they also have a fx5600 for 149 which is a very good deal but no money....

i still hav to wait for best buy (they didnt put the flyer on ther site!)

they usually hav lower prices than futureshop ;)

ok i also found this mobo for 137$
it also has intergrated graphics and the mobo is very very good!
but i hav no idea how much can the intergrated graphic go up tilll.....

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/...m/overview.htm#

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/sock...4p800-vm_l.jpg

u can see the mobo is better and has SERIAL ATA but i dunt noe about the VIDEO card on there?
im confused about tht part :blink:
help? does it go till 128 like the 9100 or 64 :blink: :ph34r:

WTF ARE YOU THINKING!! DONT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS


THIS is a great mobo for you! Suppors dual channel and everything and NOT very exspensive. You can then buy the 5200. DONT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS. They use the CPU for there speed so it puts more stress on your cpu and they suck. dont get them.

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Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 17:12
WTF ARE YOU THINKING!! DONT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS


THIS is a great mobo for you! Suppors dual channel and everything and NOT very exspensive. You can then buy the 5200. DONT GET INTERGRATED GRAPHICS. They use the CPU for there speed so it puts more stress on your cpu and they suck. dont get them.

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thnk lol first u tell me to buy then u tell me WTF!!! lol

thts a 109!$$
:(
109+70+tax=ALOT OF MONEY
i also need Memory :(

i NEVER told you to get intergrated. Look at all my post on here they all say DONT get them. Yeah that is a little more money. You can prob get a really cheap mobo If you want...and not buy it from Asus. Those intergrated graphics WILL NOT play NFSU at all. Hell, the 5200 wont play it GREAT.

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Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@25 December 2003 - 17:27
i NEVER told you to get intergrated. Look at all my post on here they all say DONT get them. Yeah that is a little more money. You can prob get a really cheap mobo If you want...and not buy it from Asus. Those intergrated graphics WILL NOT play NFSU at all. Hell, the 5200 wont play it GREAT.

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5200 plays nfsu with ease

any other good mobo companies?

May i ask exactly what you are putting onto this motherboard?
what prosser? what ram? what expansion cards (pci)? what graphics card? whats your budget? are you planning on upgrading other parts soon?

After all of this is sorted more people shall be able to help you

Jay,

Look here for some info on various Intel boards ( I really know very little about them myself) and see if you can find one that you like.
I wouldn't jump right in and buy one just cause it happens to be on sale tomorrow.
Decide what you want to end up with and then plan on how to get there...if it takes a few weeks or months, then so be it.
You'll be happier in the long run, trust me.

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Originally posted by Kunal@25 December 2003 - 17:42
May i ask exactly what you are putting onto this motherboard?
what prosser? what ram? what expansion cards (pci)? what graphics card? whats your budget? are you planning on upgrading other parts soon?

After all of this is sorted more people shall be able to help you

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im putting a p41.9ghz
512ddr 184pin
the only pci slot i hav is a NIC card...which i prolly wont use...
one 80gig maxtor
prolly a fx5200

clocker: yes im looking in to it...

one mroe question if i overclock my cpu how far do think a p41.9ghz will go? 2.2?2.4?
with good cooling
(no watercooling :lol: )

k my DAD said yes to the 109$ mobo and i might also get the fx5600 for 150$$


ok now i hav 2 mobos to pick from... one is 108$ and the other is 109$ and both hav a intel chipset

109$ > http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/sock...x/overview.htm
108$ > http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/...0s/overview.htm

which to pick?

and clocker: yes im sure i want of these mobos they hav evrything i need and all for a good price! ;)

Get the $109.

Isnt that like the exact one almost the I recommended like...15 post ago?

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Originally posted by jaigandhi5@25 December 2003 - 12:16


and clocker: yes im sure i want of these mobos they hav evrything i need and all for a good price! ;)

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Well bully for you.

I have the memory of an elephant.
If you make one post in the next six months bitching about your new baby, I shan't be held responsible for my actions....

they listen to u a lot clocker, dont u see? i assume they have u in like a pedestal or something..... bet you like it :P

lol clocker don't worry i wont :rolleyes:

yes dawg it is the one u posted 15posts ago :ph34r:
i was drugged yesterday and dint read it properly :ph34r:

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Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 20:46
they listen to u a lot clocker, dont u see? i assume they have u in like a pedestal or something..... bet you like it :P

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dunt be jealous of clocker :P

NOOOOOOOOOOO u got it all wrong.... i would have to kill myself if i would be jealous of clocker..... :P

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Originally posted by DWk@25 December 2003 - 12:46
they listen to u a lot clocker, dont u see? i assume they have u in like a pedestal or something..... bet you like it :P

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You bet I do.

The weather is sooo much better up here, elevated above the rabble.

haha it is kinda funny how we all hail clocker as one of our kings...alothough the best stuff he does is mod...i guess he has alot of knowledge tho...i actually have no clue why i take ANY of his advice...lol but we all do.. ;)

i want clockers BRAINS!!!! :01:

cuz mine jus goes "DUHHHH"

Make me an offer.