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WTF is going on?!Might not sound like much to some of you.But what about the man makeing $5.15 an hour which is the American Minimum Wage. :frusty:
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WTF is going on?!Might not sound like much to some of you.But what about the man makeing $5.15 an hour which is the American Minimum Wage. :frusty:
1 US gallon = ~3.8 litres.
Petrol in the UK costs between 76 and 80 pence per litre. That's between £2.88 and £3.04 per gallon. That's between $5.05 and $5.33
Minimum wage (correct me if I'm wrong, someone) is £4.00 in the UK
It's all relative :)
Oh, and if I may be so bold as to point out that Americans are doing no good to the world's oil resevres (no doubt pushing prices up) by driving such uneconomical cars as they do (SUVs getting 14mpg and such like...)
edit: stupid mistake
almost a dollar a liter here in vancouver (98.5/ltr!!!! :angry: ). and that point about the suv's is pure fact. we only have like 10 yrs max oil left, and after we get to that point, WWIII :( , i think something about the oil crash was posted on this site (that's how i came to know of it)Quote:
Originally posted by 2nd gen noob@11 May 2004 - 20:30
1 US gallon = ~3.8 litres.
Petrol in the UK costs between 76 and 80 pence per litre. That's between £2.88 and £3.04 per gallon. That's between $5.05 and $5.33
Minimum wage (correct me if I'm wrong, someone) is £4.00 in the UK
It's all relative :)
Oh, and if I may be so bold as to point out that Americans are doing no good to the world's oil resevres (no doubt pushing prices up) by driving such uneconomical cars as they do (SUVs getting 14mpg and such like...)
edit: stupid mistake
it certainly is all relative. america is relatively more dependent on small automobiles (i mean cars that carry 2 to 5 people, mostly) than most of the world is, 'cause we've spread everything out so wide geographically, developed into a commuter society, and our public transportation systems are generally dire.Quote:
Originally posted by 2nd gen noob@11 May 2004 - 20:30
It's all relative :)
and yeah, rotten taste in car designs has something to do with it: urban SUV culture, soccer-mom minivan culture, however you wanna describe it. too many people buying big, powerful gas guzzlers that are far beyond their personal requirements, just to drive to the grocery store.
I don't feel much pity. Sorry. The United States has the cheapest prices in the world.
However, there is quite a lot of oil left in the world. It's just currently not cheap to extract it. I forsee that changing, as oil companies start pouring money into researching easier extraction methods.
Light, small, fuel-effecient cars are readily available, but they aren't especially popular in the United States because they aren't luxurious. Usually they're manufactured by European and Asian companies.
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The UK has a high proportion of commuters, a shockingly bad public transport system, and yes, we also have out-of-town shopping centres now which can only be reached by car.Quote:
Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@12 May 2004 - 05:44
it certainly is all relative. america is relatively more dependent on small automobiles (i mean cars that carry 2 to 5 people, mostly) than most of the world is, 'cause we've spread everything out so wide geographically, developed into a commuter society, and our public transportation systems are generally dire.
We also pay more than twice as much as you do for petrol already, nearly 82p per litre at my local garage.
I have little sympathy either. ;)
Hey, if you feel that strongly about it get all your truck drivers to blockade the fuel depots which is what happened to us a few years ago. Brought the whole country to a standstill. :angry:
Note that fuel prices in the UK are now just about higher than they were then.. Watch this space!
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I always said this was a damn EURO Forum!
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Surely you know some truck drivers you can get to blockade the fuel depots? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@12 May 2004 - 10:28
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I always said this was a damn EURO Forum!
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In Australia its around 0.98AU/ 0.68US/0.38UK a litre and around $AU0.50 cents of that is tax ;)
Minimum wage is a bit more complex in Australia, as we have an award rate system for diffrent Industrys, it could be anywhere between $8 - $12 an hour depending on what industry it is.
funny, the engines that are this gus guzzling, are designed by non-americans, hmmQuote:
Originally posted by 2nd gen noob@12 May 2004 - 04:30
Oh, and if I may be so bold as to point out that Americans are doing no good to the world's oil resevres (no doubt pushing prices up) by driving such uneconomical cars as they do (SUVs getting 14mpg and such like...)
1 US gallon = ~3.8 litres * € 1,29 = € 4,90 (price from today)
4.90 DutchEURO = 5.82309 United States Dollars
minimum wages is aroun € 4,20 an hour
btw nice link for currency convertion:
The Universal Currency Converter ®
With gas prices high like they are and expected to go higher I guess everyone who said that we invaded because of oil might have gotten it wrong. If we would have invaded purely for oil we surely wouldn't be paying this much for gas.
One of the reason for the high prices is the fact that we are still in conflict hank. The day the original gulf war started prices rose sharply beacause of "fears" over oil supply even though it didn't actually affect the supply in reality. Think yourself lucky that our prices went down after...in the UK the government took the opportunity to raise the fuel tax as the price went down so the driver didn't see any reduction.Quote:
Originally posted by BigBank_Hank@12 May 2004 - 09:52
With gas prices high like they are and expected to go higher I guess everyone who said that we invaded because of oil might have gotten it wrong. If we would have invaded purely for oil we surely wouldn't be paying this much for gas.
There will always be a multitude of reasons for raising prices, i mean just look at how our prices go up each summer and yet the predicted shortage due to demand never materialises.
the arguement about going to war over oil was about supply...not price.
I for one am not going to moan about the cost here in the states, at least we don't have to pay the tax they do elsewhere, as i pointed out in a previous thread
Must be nice to live in Kentucky.......it took until 11 May for it to reach $2.00 there......lucky people
Yes, you have said it before "California has and gets everything first"
Included in that is that we are the first to get the high prices as well.....been paying over $2.00 for a while now:
From: http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp...5&nav=5kZQMGe8Quote:
April 13, 2004
Grady County - The price of gasoline is expected to top $2.00 a gallon this summer. It looks like that price will reach Thomas and Grady counties first.
Sherri Futch doesn't understand why prices are always higher here than in other South Georgia towns. She says, "I don't get it either. Why shouldn't they be cheaper? They say that their hands are tied. They don't know why it's like that."
Neither does James Crawford. He says people should band together to get the prices lowered. "It really has to do with what the people put up with, because if you continue to pay that price for it, yeah they'll keep it there, and raise it up too."
Stations can charge higher prices because consumers don't have much of a choice. Even though gas is up to four cents lower in Valdosta, the drive is 45 minutes. To save even more money, you could drive to Albany, but that would take an hour. And forget about going to Tallahassee for a break in price, it's ten cents more a gallon there
Bill Snyder says that's why he comes to Grady County to buy gas, and will continue to buy gas regardless of the price.
He says, "We're not going to stop buying gas, we'll just have to keep paying the price."
A price that continues to rise. The current average price of gas in Georgia is $1.65 per gallon. In California, it averages $2.20 per gallon.
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Here ya go...
http://www.brianstorms.com/images/gasprices2.jpg
.....^ $2.89 a gallon - not so uncommon here today....although I have NEVER used Full serve in my life - wont even use it when I retire, because if one cannot pump their own gas, one shouldn't be behind the wheel.
Ahhhh to have cheap fuel.....the bliss of being in the USA.
Here in the UK we are basically stung for everything....fuel, fags, booze all the things that make life pleasurable....
The only things that are cheap are the women! :lol: :lol:
Not really!
Get a BJ Wholesale Club, Sam's Club, or Costco membership.
Verify that they have a gas station near you.
I use BJ's in Waldorf, MD and save about 20-30 cents per gallon.
One of the reason for the high prices is the fact that we are still in conflict hank. The day the original gulf war started prices rose sharply beacause of "fears" over oil supply even though it didn't actually affect the supply in reality. Think yourself lucky that our prices went down after...in the UK the government took the opportunity to raise the fuel tax as the price went down so the driver didn't see any reduction.Quote:
Originally posted by vidcc+12 May 2004 - 12:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (vidcc @ 12 May 2004 - 12:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-BigBank_Hank@12 May 2004 - 09:52
With gas prices high like they are and expected to go higher I guess everyone who said that we invaded because of oil might have gotten it wrong. If we would have invaded purely for oil we surely wouldn't be paying this much for gas.
There will always be a multitude of reasons for raising prices, i mean just look at how our prices go up each summer and yet the predicted shortage due to demand never materialises.
the arguement about going to war over oil was about supply...not price.
I for one am not going to moan about the cost here in the states, at least we don't have to pay the tax they do elsewhere, as i pointed out in a previous thread [/b][/quote]
Your and others pointed out many times the only reason for invasion was oil. If that was the only reason we wouldn't be concerned with building a new country. We'd have hook up to the oil lines first and foremost and worried about everything else later. We went to great lengths not to have the pipelines and refineries blown up because they belong to the Iraqi people. The money from the oil they sell will go to rebuilding their country.
No, the money from the oil they sell, will be to pay for the American Companies that came in to rebuild their country.... sometimes the very Companies that made a profit on selling the Munitions that destroyed their country...Quote:
The money from the oil they sell will go to rebuilding their country.
They had no choice as to who did the work, the American Government chose them...
They are therefore forced to accept American Companies paying their American Employees $8000 per month for non skilled labour, and where these are at a shortage these companies will consider employing Iraqi's @ $100 per month.
Anywhere else in the world this is called extortion, and deservedly usually winds up in a Jail Sentence...
Welcome to America ;)
funny, the engines that are this gus guzzling, are designed by non-americans, hmm [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by Tikibonbon+12 May 2004 - 13:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tikibonbon @ 12 May 2004 - 13:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-2nd gen noob@12 May 2004 - 04:30
Oh, and if I may be so bold as to point out that Americans are doing no good to the world's oil resevres (no doubt pushing prices up) by driving such uneconomical cars as they do (SUVs getting 14mpg and such like...)
I must have missed the story on Ford, Chevy, GM etc becoming non-American, care to refresh my memory?
All the refineries that they had were very out of date so we're spending a ton of money to update those refineries and get them online. The sooner they come back online the sooner money can start flowing back into the country.
Companies are also charging more to send workers over there because of the conditions they have to work in. I don't know if you've noticed but kidnapping is a big deal there. These guys are in just as much danger as the combatants are. You can't expect someone to go over there and risk their life and get paid practically nothing.
I was talking "Unskilled" wages....Quote:
Originally posted by BigBank_Hank@12 May 2004 - 23:57
Companies are also charging more to send workers over there because of the conditions they have to work in. I don't know if you've noticed but kidnapping is a big deal there. These guys are in just as much danger as the combatants are. You can't expect someone to go over there and risk their life and get paid practically nothing.
They dont need to bring any of these people in, there are millions of Iraqi's that would do the work, and it is their country afterall.
If someone's skills are needed, then there would be no argument from me... however there are also 1000's of skilled Iraqi's, so these would be few and far between.
lolQuote:
Originally posted by Rat Faced@12 May 2004 - 12:16
No, the money from the oil they sell, will be to pay for the American Companies that came in to rebuild their country.... sometimes the very Companies that made a profit on selling the Munitions that destroyed their country...Quote:
The money from the oil they sell will go to rebuilding their country.
They had no choice as to who did the work, the American Government chose them...
They are therefore forced to accept American Companies paying their American Employees $8000 per month for non skilled labour, and where these are at a shortage these companies will consider employing Iraqi's @ $100 per month.
Anywhere else in the world this is called extortion, and deservedly usually winds up in a Jail Sentence...
Welcome to America ;)
p.s. almost a dollar in vancouver, 99.8c/liter today :angry: :frusty:
haha on u amricans.
its a cool 71 cents a liter over here.
It's about $0.90 a litre here. That's approximately $3.60 a gallon. Even with the conversion, it's still a hell of a lot cheaper in the States than it is here.
the reason gas is so high in california tho is for separate reasons than the rest of the country. due to extremely stricter pollution laws in california, the providers pretty much have to manufacture all the fuel for the state instate, instead of bringing it in from the outside. and with the huge population of california, there is a larger demand on the supply.Quote:
Originally posted by CrumbCat@12 May 2004 - 18:13
Yes, you have said it before "California has and gets everything first"
but on the flipside, texas has major supplies of oil of its own, therefore easier to meet demands. that is why we are the only area in the country that gas prices hover in the 1.70 to 1.80 price range.
@noob, yes those companies are based in america, but do you really believe that they hire only americans? don't you think they would be smart enough to go to places like japan where they are a step up in design?
o damn i forgot to pay at the pump today :huh:
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just kidding B)
I pay for gas without complaining. Complaining only stresses you out in the real world.
Complaining means nothing if you can't "physically" do anything about it.
complain' is for losers B)
;) Yeah.Like James Bond and shn never complained about something in their Life.I guess they are just too cool for that. :rolleyes:
The Price of Gasoline hurts everybody.From the Price of that Pizza you order to Packages being shipped.
But since this is only a Problem for us Americans none of that really matters now does it.
well i guess i am not drunk all the time... :rolleyes:
A proud canadian here , thier gallons are bigger and dollar worth more . Ok I'm fuked
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No, its a problem for everyone else.Quote:
Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@16 May 2004 - 01:00
The Price of Gasoline hurts everybody.From the Price of that Pizza you order to Packages being shipped.
But since this is only a Problem for us Americans none of that really matters now does it.
If this thread has shown you anything, it must be that you still have it better than everyone else in this respect... :blink:
This is why there is so little sympathy afterall, if you were paying 8 times the price for Gas that we were, i'd have some sympathy......as its the other way around, im sorry, i just cant find that in me :P
;) I have not asked for sympathy or for anybody to feel sorry for us Americans.I do not see how it looked like I did.But it seems alot of people think this.I was just pointing out what is big news around here to see what others thought.
And now I know how others feel. :rolleyes:
*Is it because I did not use my Green Smiley and used the angry Smiley that People fell this way?*
:x- why have you stopped using it? Has the price of gas driven the use of this smilie out of your budget?
One of the reasons gas prices are so high is in the names of these oil companies.
You all do the math.
:D Well one thing I have found out is American really is the best Place to Live.Thanks for letting me know how much you all Pay. :D
:P I am going to start some more Threads in here b****ing about s*** over here just to see what it is like elsewhere.Thanks! :P
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Yeah, I'm having a bad day. Found out my new plane can only hold three of my cars, so I am going to have to make 2 trips to get all my Hummers to my summer house.Quote:
Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@16 May 2004 - 03:50
:D Well one thing I have found out is American really is the best Place to Live.Thanks for letting me know how much you all Pay. :D
:P I am going to start some more Threads in here b****ing about s*** over here just to see what it is like elsewhere.Thanks! :P
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You just now figuring that out?Quote:
Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@15 May 2004 - 20:50
:D Well one thing I have found out is American really is the best Place to Live.Thanks for letting me know how much you all Pay. :D
USA RULES!!!
went down to 96.5cents/liter here in surrey (BC) today, then it went back up to 97.5cents/liter. thank god my car isn't a gas guzzling suv (and to think i wanted to buy one of those :rolleyes: )
I thought you were 16 or something, what are you doing thinking about buying an SUV. Where's the money coming from for that.Quote:
Originally posted by cpt_azad@16 May 2004 - 08:06
went down to 96.5cents/liter here in surrey (BC) today, then it went back up to 97.5cents/liter. thank god my car isn't a gas guzzling suv (and to think i wanted to buy one of those :rolleyes: )