What the fook is he all about :no:
do you lot think the royal family serve any purpose 'cept for attracting tourists? :dry:
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What the fook is he all about :no:
do you lot think the royal family serve any purpose 'cept for attracting tourists? :dry:
purpose?: ask the tabloid magazines & newspapers how much money they make from the gossip. Plenty of purpose there.
I dont understand why so many talk about everything he does.
If I had that shirt on on that party everything was fine. (not that I would wear it)
let him have some fun, I think he is the only royal family member from the whole world who seems to be 'normal'. everyone did stupids things when they were his age.
Its not like the Royal Family isn't German anyway :whistling:
We don't need royals.
At best they are useless, at worst they are inbred, obnoxious and useless.
The one argument people stick to when I say we don't need them is usually that they mean lots of free PR.
I don't think lots of free PR is worth the millions the government pays them to keep their castles in order tho'. Not when this free PR comes from a bunch of inbred muppets who can't get the name of the town they are in right, in our case. And a bunch of walking scandals in yours.
well said that man.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
Heard a good comment from Janet Ellis this morning, ex Blue Peter and mum of Sophie. She said...roughly ;) ...... Royals are ok when they are on coins and mugs but they should never be allowed to open their mouths and should stay well away from anything that matters. :01:
Here in the netherlands, Royals cant give their opinion before the AIVD says its ok :frusty:Quote:
Originally Posted by (>Zero Cool<)
He dressed as a Nazi .....Teehee
Dumbass
Eejit!
Most people would get away with such a costume but if you are in the public eye you have to consider how the rodents in Fleet Street will milk it.
He has been well and truly pawned.
Eeejit! :dry:
who's Prince Harry? the only Prince i know is TAFKAP aka the Symbol or is he Prince again or... :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:
Teh Princess Diana's second son - third in line to the throne.Quote:
Originally Posted by jetje
Princess Diana is she in the princess Diaries :unsure: :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
http://www.film-releases.com/posters...ssdiaries2.jpg
tought the princess was the only one that could go for the throne????
Could somebody please post a pic of this sweater
so that i know what to or not to wear to my wedding
I think it's hysterical :lol:
He ain't gonna apologise and their now gonna enforce some form of rule for fancy dress places so that same costume can't be gotten from a shop :lol:
Thats what they reckoned on the radio, I just think it's funny, I never liked Harry..............til now :lol:
Jonno :cool:
Maybe he should have dressed up as a vampire..
Oh no wait.. that would have upset the Transylvanians..
What about a skeleton?
Oh, that might upset anorexics.
I guess he just can't win....
Poor Harry. What a load of fuss about nothing. Still, at least he had a good time at the party... :1eye:
He wore a fucking swastika on his arm :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by barbarossa
I don't think I have to point out the implications of a guy doing this who is perpetually in the public eye and third in line to the English throne.
I'm not talking about our image to the world, particularly. I'm empathising more with the people, like my Bamp, who fought for King and Country and now have to endure the sight of a member of the royal family trivialising it.
Especially just around the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz ffs
Well now William has been blamed too, their both being sent to a Nazi death camp to be taught a lesson.
Right for those of you non english who think the royal family is wonderful, do some reading on this incident, which imo is not an incident.
I've been to many fancy dress parties and people have been dressed as hitler or some pirate or murderer etc etc, no one took offence cos you're taking the piss out of them, it's not like Harry got *skins* tattooed on his forehead and went round shouting rascist comments and beating up certain ethnic groups.
How fucking pathetic are the Royals and the British public, so now their gonna spend more of our money to "Teach the boys a lesson"
What I say to the Royals.........HELLO!!!!!!!!! it's 2005 not 1922, wake up and smell the real world, creep out from under the outdated rock and take a look around you pathetic bunch of spounging lazy wankers.
Anyone who's offended by that can kiss my arse.
Do away with the Royal Family, they cost the British public too much money and are now no more than a tourist atraction.
Jonno :cool:
Jonno, the point is that a member of the Royal Family should really have a bit more 'upstairs' to know that wearing a Nazi uniform complete with swatiska is going to upset a lot of people.
No-one will be offended by your view on the royal family, Jonno.
However, It's a bit rich to condone anyone wearing nazi garb, whatever the circumstances.
@Dan........ Yeah he prolly done it on purpose to wind up sad people.
@Manker.... I don't see any difference to wearing an English battle uniform from way back when we were just as bad.
It's a fancy dress party ffs, ok so he knew it would upset people, but look at the shit he's been getting lately, would'nt you rebel? I fucking would.
The poor lad can't have a shit without doing it wrong.
Jonno :cool:
So people that get offended by it are sad?
Just to put it in context in Germany it is illegal to wear a swatsika, yet you seem to think that a Royal Family memmber wearing a swatsika is somehow okay and people should't be upset by it?
Your a cawk. Just think of all the ex serviceman sitting at home yesterday who fought for their country to beat the Nazi's and there on the news ad all over the papers is someone 3rd in line to the throne dressed up like Rommel.
edit - and I know it was just for a party not his choice of daily attire but thats really neither here or there
I hardly think that the British (not English - our army encompassed many more nations than just England) Soldiers were 'just as bad'. Of course there were occasions where we did bad things, but I don't believe systematic genocide was on the agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Earlier you suggested that foreigners read up on this incident. I implore you to read up on WWII, clearly you know very little about it.
Would a reinactment of Ken Biggely's decapitation complete with orange jumpsuits and fake machetes be alright for a fancy dress party toom, That pales in comparison with the atrocities commited by the Nazis in WWII.
Are fancy dress parties somehow exempt from common decency and notions of respect.
He did the wrong thing and disrespected everyone that fought in the name of his Great-Grandfather. Maybe people with a Jewish heritage would object a tad too.
In fact anyone with a shred of decency in their body should object if they see some idiot sporting a swastika in public. It's not acceptable.
Ok so if it's so wrong, why can you hire the costume?
Answer me that.
@Dan.... You say it's ilegal in Germany, that's Germany, this is England, different laws.
I'm not saying what he did was a good thing or right, what I'm pissed about is the amount of attention it's getting.
No one blinks if a comedien does a Nazi sketch on their show, it's simply cos he's Royal, anyone else and no one would bat an eyelid and I personally think he done it for this exact reason. When was the last time you saw or heard anything good or nice about Harry?
How would you feel? your brother can't do a thing wrong yet everything you do you get critisised for.
And before anyone starts, no I don't support the Nazi thing or anything of the sort, I just believe this has been blown way out of proportion once again.
And all this will do is push Harry further away from the Royal's way of life.
If he had gone dressed as Longshanks everyone would have thought it was great, English king etc, yet tell me the difference between him and Hitler?
@Manker........Check your history, look up the term "Prima Nocta" (possibly spelt wrong lol)Quote:
I hardly think that the British (not English - our army encompassed many more nations than just England) Soldiers were 'just as bad'. Of course there were occasions where we did bad things, but I don't believe systematic genocide was on the agenda.
The British have been bastards in the past.
Jonno :cool:
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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
You have hit the nail on the head, well done :)
Prima Nocta - is that where the English king or whatever took the bride on her first night? Thats hardly comparable to death camps and genocide :huh:
Yes but it's bollocks, the whole Royal thing.
And again, answer me why you can hire the costume if it's so bad?
See, it's one rule for one and one for another, I really feel sorry for Harry, and as for William being punished cos he did'nt stop him, well how bloody medievil can you get, the whole thing is a croc of shit.
@Dan.... Thats a pretty way of putting it, how about it's where the King rapes your wife before you are allowed to touch her on pain of death. Nice huh.
My point being, if he had dressed as anyone like that, a British "Bad man" from history and no one would have minded.
Jonno :cool:
Yeah my heart bleeds for them, they have such a hard life :(
Because they are supposed to be the monarchy, the country is supposed to look up to them and they are meant to set a good example. Not running round getting pissed dressed up a nazi's wearing swstikas.
fuck, If i walked down the road wearing a swastika I'd get my head kicked in
edit - Jonno can you tell me how Prima Nocta is comparable to Hitler?
Yes you would, and like I keep saying, that is why he done it, he's rebelling and I don't blame him.
Setting a good example?
You go turn your back on the Queen, see what happens.
Are they better than us?
No, their shit still comes out their arse and smells, only difference is we pay for someone to wipe her arse.
Causing an argument with Australia cos the Prime Minister put his hand on the Queens shoulder, great example setting.
@Dan..... Prima Nocta was an example, it's basically genocide before birth, an attempt to wipe out a race of people in the breeding process because they were to damn tough to beat on a battle field.
Hitler wanted rid of Races of people, so did Longshanks, they just done it different ways.
btw, let me make clear I have absolutley no alegience to Hitler and share the same hatred for him and his ideas and actions as any other normal civilised person :)
Jonno :cool:
Freddie Starr used to come on dressed in the full Nazi regalia. Most people thought it was hilarious. Never saw 'much' public outcry.
Prince Harry was at a private party. It is really the photographer/reporter who has caused all this fuss. IMO Harry has just been a silly wee boy. I'm sure his grandad will put a flea in his ear.
@Jonno. Of course he will have trouble shitting. He is always third in line for the throne. :)
Anyone who hires that costume is either bigoted or an idiot. Anyone who makes it available for hire is either bigoted, an idiot or has a disproportional sense of greed over common decency.
The difference between Edward I and Hitler is about 700 hundred years. Neanderthal man was a cannibal, so fucking what.
The point is that in many people's lifetimes a group of men, united under the swatsika, tried to commit genocide on their way to world domination. Many of our countrymen died trying to stop it happening to future generations - they suceeded too. Did you know. That's why we're typing in English.
I respect those men for what they did, not just from the UK but from all over the world. I also consider wearing a swastika to be in direct conflict with that same respect AND anyone who condones wearing a swastika, I'll tar with the same brush.
I couldn't care less about 'poor' Harry but the fact that he is in the worldwide public eye means that he has trivialised the pain and suffering of families all over the globe. He's delivered a direct insult to those that fought and lost their lives. Or were plain murdered.
If you think that's acceptable, you're an idiot.
btw:
Can you get any more pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonno
See my point earlier, it's all bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboab
Excellent point Bob, kinda wish I had thought of that :lol:Quote:
Prince Harry was at a private party. It is really the photographer/reporter who has caused all this fuss. IMO Harry has just been a silly wee boy. I'm sure his grandad will put a flea in his ear.
Private party, no public person should have even known.
Jonno :cool:
Just what I was going to write, damn post thief :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
I shall remind you of this post should you ever make a joke about the Germans (think Falwty Towers which I would assume you found funny) or anything else where people have suffered.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
And once again, I know all about Hitler and what happend and do not in the slightest respect nor follow him or his ideals, my point is this thing has been blown way over the top and doing what they are doing just shows how backward the Royals are.
If he apologises will the public be happy?
No, they want him punished, bit fucking sick if you ask me, I dare say if they had their way he would be flogged.
Btw, I don't think it's acceptable, I never said it was, please refrain from twisting what I am saying, once again my point is the over reaction this is getting, why should William be punished?
Why can you hire this costume if it's so offensive? Why is it not law (as dan said ) to not be allowed to show the Swastica?
AGAIN!! I don't condone what he did, but I do think the reaction is way over the top.
Jonno :cool:
I think a public apology would be more than sufficient, rather than the fawning statement Clarence House issued yesterday
edit - I am going to start a poll on the matter, lets see what people think shall we
In all fairness, looking back far enough, the British and/or English have done their fair share of murdering. The prima nocte thing was a method of diluting the blood of whoever was occupied at the time, the scottish I think, and it came with a sideorder of tyranny and senseless murder.
Then there was quite a lot of trouble in the colonies, as in Africa, with oppression and what have you, too. And there's Ireland of course where both sides are guilty of quite a lot.
I dare say any nation that once tried to build an empire, including my own, has had a lot of bad history.
But there's really not one symbol you can point to that embodies that atrocity the way the swastika unfortunatly does. And I still think that showing up garbed in a nazi uniform is an act of poor taste, supremely so if this is done by a public figure.
Especially sad about the swastika is how the nazis more or less copied/stole a rather benign symbol.
This is my point Dan, it wont be enough, they will both be forced to go to this nazi death camp and aparently forced to watch Schindlers List to teach them a lesson.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
Harry did what he did in jest, he's not exactly part of the National Front is he :rolleyes:
Jonno :cool:
No one has said he is :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Lots of people go to auswitch, and schindler's list isn't that horrible to watch.
People do need to be reminded that it happened, and it won't hurt them to go there.
In fact, maybe it should be mandatory for anyone who is to be given any power, it should be a good reminder of what you absolutely can't do.
You don't think it's acceptable but you do think it's hysterical. You now like Harry just because he wore a swastika on his arm. I don't think I'm twisting your words. I'm reacting to your points earlier in the thread. I think you've decided to alter your view about wearing swastikas. Well done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
I don't make jokes about genocide and I don't think racism is funny.
Also I've not commented on the public outcry to this, I care little of what the reactionaries in our society think, I care more of the feelings experienced by those most closely affected by the nazis.We live in a permissive society, people are allowed to do lots of things that I consider wrong. Just because it's legal, doesn't mean that it is morally right. For fucks sake, think for yourself man.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonno
Sorry Mr.S I dissagree, I don't see the need to keep reminding people of the past, we all know what happend. If thats the case people should all go to a thousand other places where similar things have happend.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
Rememberance day is for those who fought for freedom and lost their lives, not a reminder of how bad Hitler was, personally I think it would be better and more dissrespectfull to Hitler to wipe it from history.
There are still people who hate German people due to this, is that right?
No.
New century, why can't we move forward instead of hanging onto the past?
Jonno :cool: