about teh US saving us in world war 2...
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about teh US saving us in world war 2...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIR31IoXoYs[/youtube]
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The Holocaust happened in Europe, and is the fault of the entire European community.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
WWI was a European affair, caused entirely by European stupidity.
WWII was a by-product of an idiotic document called the Versailles Treaty, the punitive aspects of which caused socio-economic distress in Germany, giving rise to Hitler, and authored by a vengeful European community, led by France.
The situations in Southeast Asia (Viet Nam) as well as in the mideast (specifically Iraq, but many other Muslim countries as well) is directly attributable to British and French colonialism, and nothing else.
Literally every current problem extant in that region can be traced back to the attempted subjugation of Islamic peoples by European colonialists.
I mean, hell, you can't even blame the formation of the state of Israel on the U.S.
This is one-hundred percent true fact.
Disclaimer:
This post is the product of a lifetime of fact-gathering, undiluted by googling.
Right off the top of my head, honest.
i'd agree with most of that but add what europe did to germany, the UN/US do to everyone :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4The Holocaust happened in Europe, and is the fault of the entire European community.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
WWI was a European affair, caused entirely by European stupidity.
WWII was a by-product of an idiotic document called the Versailles Treaty, the punitive aspects of which caused socio-economic distress in Germany, giving rise to Hitler, and authored by a vengeful European community, led by France.
The situations in Southeast Asia (Viet Nam) as well as in the mideast (specifically Iraq, but many other Muslim countries as well) is directly attributable to British and French colonialism, and nothing else.
Literally every current problem extant in that region can be traced back to the attempted subjugation of Islamic peoples by European colonialists.
I mean, hell, you can't even blame the formation of the state of Israel on the U.S.
This is one-hundred percent true fact.
Disclaimer:
This post is the product of a lifetime of fact-gathering, undiluted by googling.
Right off the top of my head, honest.
i'd also like to say i'd trust half an hour reading multiple sources on google more than a lifetime of fox news
I've never watched Fox News. Is it any good.
it's loltastic. you should try itQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
What a hypocritical post, as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4The Holocaust happened in Europe, and is the fault of the entire European community.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
Since 1945 the US has either invaded, started a coup to topple the government, or financed sedition, in 52 countries around the world.
They have backed right wing civilian and military dictators against the will of the people, and they have toppled democratically elected governments.
In their own back yard of Central America they are responsible for the deaths of millions of people, in an effort to maintain instability.
In Vietnam the US staged a phony attack as an excuse to invade, after the terms of a peace treaty was reneged on by the US, in collusion with the South Vietnamese government.Quote:
The situations in Southeast Asia (Viet Nam) as well as in the mideast (specifically Iraq, but many other Muslim countries as well) is directly attributable to British and French colonialism, and nothing else.
In Korea the US ignored warnings not to cross the 38th parrallel, but, being the US they ignored this and got their arse kicked by the Chinese, only stopping complete humiliation by threatening to use nukes.
All this, and more, all over the world.
And yet, when Germany invaded Poland the US did nothing, when they should have done the right thing and declared war.
Had they done so, the war would have been over in two to three years, and the holocaust would not have happened.
If the holocaust hadn't happened we wouldn't have had the mass exodus to Palestine and the mess there now.
After the war the US secured their supply of Middle East oil by backing, militarily, the despotic, thieving regimes that are still stealing the oil wealth from their people. This in turn led to 9\11 and the chaos we see now.Quote:
Literally every current problem extant in that region can be traced back to the attempted subjugation of Islamic peoples by European colonialists.
American style!Quote:
This is one-hundred percent true fact.
This thread is getting way out of hand.
There are some very interesting argumnets from many points of view and indeed they are all partly true.
The thread is entitled "Will the US or Israel attack Iran"
The answer is, they should do, but in a limited fashion, with plenty of warning.
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Digby
Any attack on Iran could lead to a major conflict. So I would say no.
Those who advocate attacking Iran should state under which rules they base this on,
Iran has broken no laws, international or otherwise.
To just attack a country because you don't like what they are doing, or what you think they are doing, is totally wrong.
If anyone attacks Iran, I hope the response from them is swift and deadly, and their response will be legal, unlike the attacker.
Look at the countries with nukes, US, Russia, Ukraine, China, UK, France, Israel, North Korea, India, Pakistan, and possibly South Africa and Brazil.
What right have any of those counties to tell Iran what it can do?
If Israel doesn't want it's neighbours to have nukes they should get rid of theirs, join the IAEA, and allow inspectors in.