hoi moslem , just stop posting
let bawa do the explaining .
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hoi moslem , just stop posting
let bawa do the explaining .
First :earl::lol: of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
I know this is a minor point but are there any religious texts from any religion that start "this is a load of pish and most of it is made up" .....Quote:
Originally Posted by moslem01
On here like, I did :lol::earl: lots.
I'm an :earl::lolboy:
I'm going to have to take exception to that, old bean.Quote:
Originally Posted by saqib
Christians believe that Jesus was the son of God and that he forms part of the Holy Trinity which is God. That he came to Earth as a man, suffered and died horribly on the cross and was resurrected from death. He did this willingly. We believe that he fulfilled scripture in doing this, wiped out the sins of man and brought God's new covenant with his people. A "fresh start" if you will. We believer that he is the most important historical or theological figure who will ever live and we should follow him and base our lives on his teachings.
You think he was a messenger, like Moses.
So I'm going to have to suggest that people who follow Christ and believe he was God incarnate have a slightly higher opinion of him than people who think he was one of the prophets.
save me someone. (thing)
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP FugleyI'm going to have to take exception to that, old bean.Quote:
Originally Posted by saqib
Christians believe that Jesus was the son of God and that he forms part of the Holy Trinity which is God. That he came to Earth as a man, suffered and died horribly on the cross and was resurrected from death. He did this willingly. We believe that he fulfilled scripture in doing this, wiped out the sins of man and brought God's new covenant with his people. A "fresh start" if you will. We believer that he is the most important historical or theological figure who will ever live and we should follow him and base our lives on his teachings.
You think he was a messenger, like Moses.
So I'm going to have to suggest that people who follow Christ and believe he was God incarnate have a slightly higher opinion of him than people who think he was one of the prophets.
I've attempted to explain this point on several occasions but was never able to do so with such clarity. I may be quoting that from time to time. :)
A pleasure old bean, I'm glad you approve, please feel free to use any or all as you see fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizoWell said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
I've attempted to explain this point on several occasions but was never able to do so with such clarity. I may be quoting that from time to time. :)
I'm one of those who have been profoundly touched by the religious experience.
Where I'm from, it's a cultural imperative to delineate your specific mental hobby-horse. Whether or not you ride that horse, you must be acutely aware of the proximity of those that love that hoss and will drive her to death with a virulent whip.
Religion shoulders the onus for many atrocities but it really comes down to politics. The politic of 'this is mine and you're not getting it' being the cynosure of the universe.
Indeed and if those committing the atrocities claim that they are doing it in the name of religion that does not make it so. Particularly if the actual heads of the religion make it clear that they are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by chalice
God has no son .Quote:
I'm going to have to take exception to that, old bean.
Christians believe that Jesus was the son of God and that he forms part of the Holy Trinity which is God.
Jesus was son of miriam the virgin " dunno what you call her " , and god give him the life from his spirit without a father .
Jesus is not dead , wasn't crucified .Quote:
That he came to Earth as a man, suffered and died horribly on the cross and was resurrected from death. He did this willingly. We believe that he fulfilled scripture in doing this, wiped out the sins of man and brought God's new covenant with his people. A "fresh start" if you will. We believer that he is the most important historical or theological figure who will ever live and we should follow him and base our lives on his teachings.
the Jews crucified someone else that they thought is Jesus .
god take Jesus up to heavens . and Jesus will come in the final war between those who believe in god and those who don't and lead the believers.
it's all in the Koran .
He was a messenger from god .Quote:
You think he was a messenger, like Moses.
So I'm going to have to suggest that people who follow Christ and believe he was God incarnate have a slightly higher opinion of him than people who think he was one of the prophets.