Why you all should all use SCENE ONLY trackers

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

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Originally Posted by TONiC

Put it this way: take away P2P, and the scene will still exist. Take away the scene, and p2p dies. Simple.

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Instead of typing out why your statement is not just absurd, but also demonstrates your utter confusion, I would like you to do the legwork. Explain how, if the scene stepped away completely, p2p would die (instead of thrive).

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The Scene acts as the main resource for: early DVD/BDRiPs, early MP3 releases, TV caps in SD and HD, and cracked 0-day/apps, which then get leaked to P2P. Take away all that and you leave P2P with very little. Sites I know which would survive a Scene-outage are: TheBox.bz, UKNova, What.CD, Waffles.FM. Why? Because these sites have dedicated userbases substantial enough to supply their own content, capped TV and flac/mp3 rips respectively. P2P has only ever led the way in terms of content is in CiNE movie releases [CAM/TS/TC/WP/SCR/R5] which only lasted up until recently, of which, IMAGiNE was probably 90% responsible for, but with them lies the true downfall of p2p -> there's very little emphasis on security. Every other form of content on P2P is stolen from the scene. full stop.

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Originally Posted by TONiC

The Scene acts as the main resource for: early DVD/BDRiPs, early MP3 releases, TV caps in SD and HD, and cracked 0-day/apps, which then get leaked to P2P. Take away all that and you leave P2P with very little. Sites I know which would survive a Scene-outage are: TheBox.bz, UKNova, What.CD, Waffles.FM. Why? Because these sites have dedicated userbases substantial enough to supply their own content, capped TV and flac/mp3 rips respectively. P2P has only ever led the way in terms of content is in CiNE movie releases [CAM/TS/TC/WP/SCR/R5] which only lasted up until recently, of which, IMAGiNE was probably 90% responsible for, but with them lies the true downfall of p2p -> there's very little emphasis on security. Every other form of content on P2P is stolen from the scene. full stop.

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Besides failing to answer my question, I'll point out what you're missing. First and foremost that p2p means filesharing AND releases not done by the scene (you focus on the former as if the latter doesn't exists).
-The majority of P2P does not use scene sources for TV caps (if they do TV) or movies.
-P2P covers DVDs, Blurays, Web-DL, albums, etc., the absence of scene has no impact on any of this.
-Some p2p groups do early release, not like it really matters. The delay until actual release date doesn't kill it off completely, that's only death to a preteen.
-Scene "outage" would only severely affect scene only sites, such as ScT, SCC, and whatever the other ones are.

Rather, if you eliminate scene, p2p could and would fill any possible gaps left behind. This means they would thrive. My interaction with scene-related matter is very marginal, maybe 4 % at most, directly or indirectly. This doesn't mean I don't snatch anything, it just means that I've waited a little longer for better options. Sometimes, that means a day, sometimes a week, sometimes a month. No adverse effects.

P.S. Thanks for playing along and making it much easier for me to address your inaccuracies.

Find me one single P2P site which doesn't have a Scene release on it. I'm very willing to bet, you won't. Why? Because the scene supplies the majority of content people want, thus I dare that 99% of BT sites out there steal from The Scene. Yes P2P might pick up the slack if there were a scene outage, but how is any source meant to feal confident when groups like IMAGiNE were freely exchanging their own home IPs? Secondly on that point, sources for pre-retail DVD/BD/CD rips are a God send; if you are willing to maintain the attitude that waiting an extra 2 weeks for a DVDRiP on the retail date, then you might as well forget P2P/Scene altogether and just buy everything on retail date - this is piracy my friend, the sooner something leaks, the better for everybody. There are hardly any P2P caps of US TV shows. Why? Because The Scene has the majority of US TV covered. UK sites like TheBox/UKNova thrived because the UK Scene wasnt strong enough to cap everything that airs, but I don't know a single P2P group that caps US TV. If there are, it's WEB-DL stuff.

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Originally Posted by TONiC

Find me one single P2P site which doesn't have a Scene release on it. I'm very willing to bet, you won't. Why? Because the scene supplies the majority of content people want, thus I dare that 99% of BT sites out there steal from The Scene. Yes P2P might pick up the slack if there were a scene outage, but how is any source meant to feal confident when groups like IMAGiNE were freely exchanging their own home IPs?? Secondly on that point, sources for pre-retail DVD/BD/CD rips are a God send; if you are willing to maintain the attitude that waiting an extra 2 weeks for a DVDRiP on the retail date, then you might as well forget P2P/Scene altogether and just buy everything on retail date - this is piracy my friend, the sooner something leaks, the better for everybody.

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Sense,please make some.

Thanks in advance or in language you can perhaps better understand, Idol wishes to convey his gratitude pre-retail.Greetz to mjmacky and all other groups that aren't clinically brain-dead.

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I don't know a single P2P group that caps US TV o really?
:lol:

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Sense,please make some.

Thanks in advance or in language you can perhaps better understand, Idol wishes to convey his gratitude pre-retail.Greetz to mjmacky and all other groups that aren't clinically brain-dead.

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Not understanding a monkey is on par with not understanding a genuis. Tell me where your confusion lies...

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Originally Posted by johhny

I don't know a single P2P group that caps US TV o really?

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Yes, please name one...

TrollHD,CtrlHD,ALANiS etc

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Originally Posted by johhny

TrollHD,CtrlHD,ALANiS etc

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Now compare them to IMMERSE, DIMENSION, ORENJI... you see who rules who?