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All I can say on this matter is that jesus is a blackman!
What prrof is there to state otherwise? he lived in a country where most people are black and whats to say he never smoked abit of the wacky baccy, or any of his followers, read the bible properly u'll see that that someone had to be on drugs!!! :blink:
I totally agree. Take a look at revelations, for example.Quote:
Originally posted by kazaaliteuser007@1 December 2003 - 05:46
All I can say on this matter is that jesus is a blackman!
What prrof is there to state otherwise? he lived in a country where most people are black and whats to say he never smoked abit of the wacky baccy, or any of his followers, read the bible properly u'll see that that someone had to be on drugs!!! :blink:
About that war thing,
i simply think the world is a better place because of the belief in God. Without a belief in something bigger that sort of governs us, there would be anarchy, for example, a chief reason why a lot of civil war that should have happened but didn't, is because the monarchy has God given power. Without God, or a sense of god, would we still have the laws we have today? I doubt it.
maybe 90% of the wars were fought in the name of god; but most of the time, there's other reasons, e.g. the crusades were as much about God as they are about money, land, prestige, and women. but without religion, or God, we would simply be killing for money (if nothing else, that sounds bad).
:blink: good argument for religion i think :huh:Quote:
maybe 90% of the wars were fought in the name of god; but most of the time, there's other reasons, e.g. the crusades were as much about God as they are about money, land, prestige, and women. but without religion, or God, we would simply be killing for money (if nothing else, that sounds bad).
anyway....
While i agree that for good or bad christianity has played a large part in shaping the moral fabric of the west, I completely disagree with the idea that its all thats stopping us from descending into anarchy. Is the only reason you don't go around killing and raping because of your belief that you'll be punished in the afterlife? I rather doubt it is, for starters theres a nice system of justice on earth which you would no doubt fear and imo makes punishment after death basically unnecessary. We've created a secular society based on the most basic ideals of christianity and millions of agnostics/atheists/people of other religions recognise these ideals as basically good ideas and without needing fear of punishment by a higher power, they (we) choose to live our lives by these same laws. It is also important to note that although some of the basic ideals came from Christianity, other ideals from the Bible have been discarded as unnecessary. Plus many teachings in the bible simply come from the social context at the time of telling/writing.
There was a discussion in the World news & events section that went along the same lines that you mention, the fear among conservative christians that the growing atheism/agnosticism would lead to a decline in morality. This might be true, because imo without a higher power there can be no fundamental good or bad and no morals, however, I believe that even in a completely amoral (not immoral) you can still have a perfectly functional, happy and non-anarchic society. Although there might be no fundamental good or bad there are still consequences to our actions and there are still things which are socially acceptable and unacceptable, the only difference is that we decide the laws and standards consciously and through debate and reason instead of relying on what someone claims is god's will.
lot of good points here im not very religious but i do think there is a god just everybody got there own belief on what there god is so
kill them all let god sort them out -bruce willis
Religion is a tool.
I'm not writing 5 pages with a broken arm, so read up on history, without ANY BIAS WHATSOEVER.
I agree, I have no religion, nor do I believe in a god, however, I have very high morals, I mean ppl live until they die, what gives me the right to interfere in their lives or take that life away from them. Also, I try to help others when they need it, because sometimes I need help, so how can I expect help, if I don't give it.Quote:
Originally posted by ilw@1 December 2003 - 09:27
There was a discussion in the World news & events section that went along the same lines that you mention, the fear among conservative christians that the growing atheism/agnosticism would lead to a decline in morality. This might be true, because imo without a higher power there can be no fundamental good or bad and no morals, however, I believe that even in a completely amoral (not immoral) you can still have a perfectly functional, happy and non-anarchic society. Although there might be no fundamental good or bad there are still consequences to our actions and there are still things which are socially acceptable and unacceptable, the only difference is that we decide the laws and standards consciously and through debate and reason instead of relying on what someone claims is god's will.
I cannot see how some ppl can believe ppl become less moral when they have no religion.
lord of the rings is bether than the bible at almost all points
LOOKING FOR THE BIBLE ON MP3? :huh:
http://www.god.co.uk/
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And sometimes (depending on the subject/individual) it brainwashes them. Sounds a good read.....I'll give it a go when I'm finished reading "Da Bible" by the talented mr Ali-G.Quote:
remember that reading increases knowledge!!