Patriotism = Parochialism

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Originally Posted by Busyman

People ARE NOT ROBOTS. Just because they follow the Bible for instance, it is not program code. A man professing religion doesn't necessarily believe it either.......

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Why then do most religious leaders in America say that the 'Moonies' are brainwashed. 'Mr Moon' maintains that he is the new 'Son of God'. Why should some people not believe him?

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Originally Posted by Busyman

To those that say "well they profess this religion yet still do bad things," ...no shit...it goes without saying.




As I said before, kill the fella who get's on your nerves.
Take that $20 bill that the guy dropped at the store instead of letting him know he dropped it.
Fuck that bitch and then tell her to get the fuck out and never call her again.
When you are out of town, have a one stand with a woman even though you know your herpes is acting up. :sick:
That bum who really is hungry, wants a sandwich but fuck him 'cause he should get job. You hope he freezes.

@hobbes- none of these involves "desperate situations". They do involve selfishness but selfishness works for many.
Man is primal

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As I said, only an asshole would do such things, I never would.

You have described a situation of complete chaos. Chaos is why man created God.

A desperate man may do desperate things, but a man who hurts others on a whim is not a respectable creature. A religion is meaningless to such an entity as he only cares about now and himself.

People who truly believe in religion are robots as the teachings are immutable.

Answering to oneself is the highest authority as God is a myth.

Man is primal, but he also understands that he may be the victim, and that he why he creates rules to promote safety for all. He seeks security.

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Originally Posted by hobbes

God is a myth.

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So that feminist with the speech impediment wasn't trying to tell me god is a woman. :unsure:

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Originally Posted by hobbes

As I said, only an asshole would do such things, I never would.

You have described a situation of complete chaos. Chaos is why man created God.

A desperate man may do desperate things, but a man who hurts others on a whim is not a respectable creature. A religion is meaningless to such an entity as he only cares about now and himself.

People who truly believe in religion are robots as the teachings are immutable.

Answering to oneself is the highest authority as God is a myth.

Man is primal, but he also understands that he may be the victim, and that he why he creates rules to promote safety for all. He seeks security.

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You say you wouldn't do such things yet I don't really know you.
I have simply maintained that there would be more of the afore mentioned chaos if there wasn't a belief in God.

Whether you believe in God is irrelevent to what may play a part in another's conscience.

It's pretty darn simple to me.

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Does humanity attach too much importance to a piece of wind blown cloth and a patch of dirt?

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those are often the only things that seperate us from the grotesque nakedness of Wal-Mart zombie buttertrolls.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

You say you
I have simply maintained that there would be more of the afore mentioned chaos if there wasn't a belief in God.

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This is basically saying that an atheist is more likely to commit crime....and that is quite frankly bollocks.

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Originally Posted by vidcc

So that feminist with the speech impediment wasn't trying to tell me god is a woman. :unsure:

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Are you trying to prove the theory that only people with impediments seek a higher authority in their life? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I've seen too many folks change their life for the better, like the fella who stopped cheating on his wife.
He didn't catch a disease or anything; he got into religion.

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When you quote instances of things like this you are going to get people who will quote instances to the contrary. Believe me I have seen plenty of them in my lifetime.

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Originally Posted by vidcc

This is basically saying that an atheist is more likely to commit crime....and that is quite frankly bollocks.

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WTF!!?? :wacko: :frusty: :helpsmile:

Very simple...

everyone - conscience

a real believer - an extra layer of conscience

I'm not talking about a perosn who just says they are believers. I'm talking about a person really believes. A person that really believes that their action have consequences past man-made law. I'm saying any of the hearing voices stuff.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

a real believer - an extra layer of conscience

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Well, it's more a case of fear I think...

Fear of eternal damnation and hellfire :devil: