Re: come on "constructionists"
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Originally Posted by J2
To steal a phrase, "That's just pish"
And that is not an arguement. (unless you use Bush reasoning). And this from someone that feels the president owes the whole country an apology and an explaination for getting his dick sucked. If you feel we don't have that right, put forward your reasons why.
If the president says "I have that right" then he should explain where he gets that right from.
If you feel the president owes us no explaination then I suggest you move away from calling him mr. president and substitute mr. dictator
What do you think elections are for ?
Re: come on "constructionists"
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Originally Posted by vidcc
And this from someone that feels the president owes the whole country an apology and an explaination for getting his dick sucked.
If the president says "I have that right" then he should explain where he gets that right from.
Perhaps Clinton should have assayed his legal status vis a vis blow-jobs from fat girls (not his wife) in thongs.
He might have invoked Executive Privilege and avoided the whole thing.
I am saying that, as these matters will now be thoroughly investigated, Bush will be correct to reveal such particulars to those in charge of the ultimate disposition of the matter, which must assuredly ain't us.
You'll just have to wait for the impeachment, like we did for your boy Clinton.
BTW-this isn't an argument either, although it fits the bill as an answer perfectly. ;)
Re: come on "constructionists"
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Originally Posted by j2k4
Until these investigations are complete, we have no right or overweening need to know the specifics of his reasonings; that is for the investigative effort to determine.
Shall I ask for the Drawing Room to be closed, or have you already done that.
You - But what about the Constitution?
I really don't give a feck about the Constitution. I'm more interested in why he didn't apply to the Courts. Oh that's right, he had his reasons.
I tried to cut out as much bunkum as I could, it wasn't easy.
Re: come on "constructionists"
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Originally Posted by JPaul
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Originally Posted by j2k4
Until these investigations are complete, we have no right or overweening need to know the specifics of his reasonings; that is for the investigative effort to determine.
Shall I ask for the Drawing Room to be closed, or have you already done that.
You - But what about the Constitution?
I really don't give a feck about the Constitution. I'm more interested in why he didn't apply to the Courts. Oh that's right, he had his reasons.
I tried to cut out as much bunkum as I could, it wasn't easy.
:lol:
Re: come on "constructionists"
Re: come on "constructionists"
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Originally Posted by Gam3Guy
I think it's bullshit that the illegal wiretaps are the reason this attack was foiled...if this attempt even existed.
Tbh, this whole administration is getting tiresome. I'd like to believe the President but skeptism gets in the way.
Either way, I don't understand why he can't get legal wiretaps AND if not, governments do covert spying all the time.
If he's signing off on shit like this he's doing a shit job at keeping it "covert".
Ex. secret prisons - I'm sure we've had secret prisons for decades. I'm sure many countries do. Now ours are public knowledge.
This administration does nothing well.
Re: come on "constructionists"
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Originally Posted by Busyman
IT'S NOT A SECRET IF EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT.
too true.
Re: come on "constructionists"
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Originally Posted by Gam3Guy
Erm........... there is nothing about this that suggests the wiretaps had anything to do with it. If they had don't you think Bush would have been shouting it out loud.
Some unnamed "asin country" is the hero here so it seems.
This was a political release to put pressure for the patriot act to be renewed.
Re: come on "constructionists"
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Originally Posted by vidcc
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Originally Posted by Gam3Guy
Erm........... there is nothing about this that suggests the wiretaps had anything to do with it. If they had don't you think Bush would have been shouting it out loud.
Even if it did that's no reason for going thro' the proper procedures to get the warrants. Unless of course you get better evidence from an illegal tap. :blink:
Re: come on "constructionists"
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Originally Posted by vidcc
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Originally Posted by Gam3Guy
Erm........... there is nothing about this that suggests the wiretaps had anything to do with it. If they had don't you think Bush would have been shouting it out loud.
Some unnamed "asin country" is the hero here so it seems.
This was a political release to put pressure for the patriot act to be renewed.
Actually it does... I got it off a news site which said Bush's wiretaps successfully foiled terrorist attemps. I agree that this sounds like bs too tho because even if Bush never said that they worked then more ppl would dislike him. He couldn't even say much details about how it worked or where they tapped.
